Twins Trade Donaldson, Kiner-Falefa to Yankees for Sanchez, Urshela

[snellman]

17 minutes ago, brockbesler said:

Does this mean Story might be the next move?

I thought the same thing.

 

[kasotamatt]

Methinks we won't see a press conference with Gary Sanchez donning a Twins jersey ...

[Rosterman]

$50 million gone just like that! I'm not sure what to make of one-year of Sanchez. Rortvedt at least had some promise, especially defensively.

 

Is Gio a third baseman, or do they try him at shortstop?

[dcswede]

never, never, never trade with the Yankees.

[Game7-91]

[whosafraidofluigirussolo]

Seems like this won't be, in fact, the final twist.

[Mike Sixel]

 

[beckmt]

Maybe they also have a deal for Sanchez.  Miranda had nothing left to prove at St. Paul, does that mean Urshela plays SS.  I know he played some there, but don't think he was that good.  Maybe we needed Sanchez to get an Oakland pitcher, but this makes little sense to me.  Donaldson I can understand if the Twins were rebuilding and he would probably not want to be here.  

[curt1965]

I really think the Minnesota sports teams are losing their minds!!

[goulik]

19 minutes ago, Mike Sixel said:

Everyone on this board is a better defensive catcher than Sanchez. And, they have no shortstop again. And urshela? I have no idea what they are doing. They are worse at catcher and still have no shortstop. 

 

Exactly this! I am dumbfounded, confused and upset! What the heck do we want with Sánchez and Urshela?

[Squirrel]

Okay ... either there is more to come or we are going full rebuild mode ... I mean ... wtf?

[Mike Sixel]

Just now, Squirrel said:

Okay ... either there is more to come or we are going full rebuild mode ... I mean ... wtf?

They just dealt from the future for a pitcher.... So ?

[jmlease1]

Yeah, I don't understand what the plan is here. Urshela might be a bounceback candidate, but he also was never good until 2019, so 1 good season plus the short covid year isn't a lot to base it on. Sanchez was bad last year and worse in the short covid year. (He's also a butcher behind the plate) If they're clearing salary to get a better SS (Story? I'm not even going to pretend with in on Correa) then I can get this. But right now, it's a mess. Of course, considering how much has changed for this team in like a day, things could change a lot more in a few more days?

I liked Rortvedt, but I'm not sure he's going to hit enough to be anything other than a backup intended to only get 20-30 games a season.

[Hosken Bombo Disco]

Sunday Bloody Sunday 

[Squirrel]

Just now, Mike Sixel said:

They just dealt from the future for a pitcher.... So ?

I know ... but still ... what???? At this point, it doesn't feel like much of a team 

[darin617]

So what happens with Luis Arraez now. 

[Nine of twelve]

I don't have the time or desire to find this out on my own so I'll ask:

Are other teams going this crazy or is it just us?

[cHawk]

25 minutes ago, curt1965 said:

I can hardly wait for the Twin’s explanation of this.

Looks like a salary dump to me!

They might be making room to add Story. Let’s hope that’s the case.

[HrbieFan]

23 minutes ago, curt1965 said:

I can hardly wait for the Twin’s explanation of this.

Looks like a salary dump to me!

Exactly what it is! Sanchez n Gio make a combined $14m and we shipped out over $27m. Sanchez is in his walk year and unless he has a great couple months, he won't bring value in the trade market 

[whosafraidofluigirussolo]

One of my first thoughts after the Rangers trade was that acquiring Kiner-Falefa was a good way to hedge on whether Lewis stays at shortstop. They could give Lewis time to stick and if they learned this year that he wouldn't, then they still have a SS next year. If Lewis is ready to play SS in the majors next year, you've got a great utility guy.

I guess that line of thinking wasn't so important to them after all. Or the Yankees wanted to do that approach (keeping a spot warm for their top SS prospect) more than the Twins did.

This makes sense if it's clearing payroll for Story, but that starts to look like a bet against Lewis sticking at short too. I dunno.

[Hosken Bombo Disco]

33 minutes ago, Mike Sixel said:

Everyone on this board is a better defensive catcher than Sanchez. And, they have no shortstop again. And urshela? I have no idea what they are doing. They are worse at catcher and still have no shortstop. 

 

Agree. Garver is the better guy to have than Sanchez. 

[whosafraidofluigirussolo]

One crazy scenario: this deal clears salary for them to take Myers (preferably) or Hosmer (?) off the Padres' payroll in order to "buy"... Clevinger? Musgrove?

[Lasorda_This_Out]

No idea what this all means but it sure ain't Grandpa's Twins anymore?

Fasten the seatbelts!

[Hosken Bombo Disco]

11 minutes ago, Squirrel said:

I know ... but still ... what???? At this point, it doesn't feel like much of a team 

I was looking forward to watching our rag tag bunch of misfits from last year  

oh well. Go Twins! 

[twinstalker]

32 minutes ago, High heat said:

Why!?  Gary Sanchez can’t play defense, unless you think you can change something there. 
I don’t see much difference between Garver and Sanchez.  So you basically just gave Donaldson away.

 

They basically gave Garver away yesterday, or didn't you notice?

[ScottyB]

The only thing that comes to mind is Kevin Costner in Draft Day. “Give me 5 minutes while I work things out.”

There’s got to be a lot more to come. I like the idea of Story, but why not Correa instead? Arraez and Kepler or Sanchez and minor league prospect (maybe Lewis) to Reds for Castillo?

[Squirrel]

1 minute ago, Hosken Bombo Disco said:

I was looking forward to watching our rag tag bunch of misfits from last year  

oh well. Go Twins! 

This is such a Rays move ... get rid of most of your team every year ... so you never know who is on it ever  

[DJL44]

I don't understand this one at all. I had considered grabbing Urshela and Sanchez since I was pretty sure the Yankees didn't want them on the roster but figured the Yankees would be giving up prospects to the Twins to make it happen.

The Twins have no reason to dump salary. Their payroll is low. This is like a Mariners trade where Jerry DiPoto is just moving players to feel like he's in charge.

[singlesoverwalks]

LOST

Garver (#1 C)

Donaldson (3B)

Rortvedt (#3 C)

GAINED

Sánchez (now the #2 C)

Urshela (new 3B)

$50 million in 2022-2023 budget

OUTSTANDING NEEDS

SS

Pitching would be nice

 

Adds up to a free agent shortstop signing coming.

[TopGunn#22]

My first thought when I saw this story pop up (and after I got my head to stop spinning) was that this MUST be the prelude to a Trevor Story signing.  Why else make these moves unless you intend to move Donaldson's $$$ off the books and add Story to the payroll, changing out a Gold Glove caliber 3B-man in Urshela and a solid glove at SS in Story.  Urshela is very similar to Kiner-Falefa defensively without the speed but with more consistent power.  Sanchez is a power bat, probably too similar to Sano but with 30-HR potential.