Thiéres Rabelo Twins Daily Contributor Posted June 1, 2023 Posted June 1, 2023 In what might have been the Twins’ best, most dominant display of the season, the bats came back to life after a cold game on Tuesday. Louie Varland tossed a gem, and Minnesota crushed the Astros in Houston to secure the series win and the season series victory over the World Series champs. Image courtesy of Thomas Shea-USA TODAY Sports Box ScoreStarting Pitcher: Louie Varland, 7.0 IP, 4 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 1 BB, 5 K (86 pitches, 66 strikes, 76.7%)Home Runs: noneTop 3 WPA: Louie Varland (.229), Donovan Solano (.184), Ryan Jeffers (.095)Win Probability Chart (via FanGraphs) Early offense (finally!) delivers with the bases loaded Rookie starter Hunter Brown took the mound for Houston, hoping to carry on his solid season thus far. Instead, the Twins’ offense drove his pitch count up early and did some bases-loaded damage to back up Louie Varland. Though the offense went down in order in the first two innings of the game, a 12-pitch at-bat from Alex Kirilloff in the first had Brown reaching 21 pitches to end the inning. Meanwhile, Varland needed only 17 pitches to cruise through two, and he got some run support right away. The bottom third of the Twins’ lineup ambushed Brown in the third, with the first three Minnesota batters reaching: after Max Kepler and Willi Castro hit back-to-back singles, Michael A. Taylor drew a four-pitch walk to load them up. Before tonight’s game, the Twins had gone 5-for-46 (.109) with the bases juiced this season – the worst batting average in said situations. Could they break the slump? Édouard Julien struck out next for the first out, but Donovan Solano didn’t waste his opportunity and snapped a team 0-for-14 skid with the bases loaded. He slapped a single to shallow right to score Kepler and Castro and send Taylor to third. Then, Kirilloff came through with a chopper to the gap at short to push Taylor across and make it 3-0 Minnesota. Bats cash in with the bases loaded again; Varland still cruising Despite closing in on 80 pitches, Brown remained in the game, and the Twins took advantage of that once again. After coming out of the fourth empty-handed, Minnesota’s offense added on in the fifth. Solano and Kyle Farmer reached on a one-out walk and a two-out single. But with Brown surpassing the 100-pitch mark, he was pulled from the game with two outs. Facing reliever Parker Mushinski, Joey Gallo got hit in the elbow on the very first pitch of the at-bat, and suddenly, the bases were loaded again. Red-hot Jeffers, who had been slashing .400/.500/.867 in the previous seven games, made Mushinski pay: he smacked a long double to center that would’ve been a bases-clearing hit had it not one-hopped into the bullpen and been ruled a ground-rule double. Solano and Farmer scored, making it 5-0 Twins. This was the first time in the season that the Twins got two bases-loaded hits in the same game. Varland continued to dominate the Astros lineup with ease, completing five scoreless on only 53 pitches. He also continued to be rewarded for his superb performance with more run support. Castro and Taylor opened the top of the sixth with a single and a walk against Mushinski, and the offense was at it again. Solano crushed a double to left to bring home both runners and make it 7-0 Minnesota. Varland completes seven, a career-high Heck, even when Varland wasn’t so sharp, he got some more run support. After recording the first two outs in the bottom of the sixth on only nine pitches, the Minnesota native lost the next two batters to a single and a walk, his first of the night. He got the force out in the following at-bat and kept the zero on the scoreboard, but not before throwing 20 pitches in the inning, his longest one of the night. The offense added on against reliever Seth Martinez in the top of the seventh. Castro drew a two-out walk, stole second, then was pushed across by a Taylor double to center, making it 8-0 Minnesota. Varland came back for the home half of the inning with only 73, and he delivered yet another scoreless frame to complete seven shutout innings. Before tonight’s game, Varland’s longest start of his young career had been the 6 1/3 he tossed against the Cubs earlier this month. Jorge López continues to struggle badly Having allowed earned runs in three of his previous four games, Jorge López came into the game in the eighth hoping to get back on track after an awful month of May. Unfortunately, he would end up having what was maybe his worst outing as a Twin. Jake Meyers hit a leadoff home run on the very first pitch of the inning, which was followed by another home run next, by Yainer Díaz, scoring Houston’s second run. He then lost Mauricio Dubón on a ten-pitch walk and hit Jeremy Peña on the fingers next, giving Houston the chance to cut the lead down to only three on a swing of the bat. Rocco Baldelli decided to bring Brock Stewart in before López could record an out. Stewart did a phenomenal job by striking out the side on 13 pitches to shut down the Astros’ rally. López, who didn’t allow a single run during his March and April outings, ends the month of May with a 9.00 ERA. José De León pitched around a hit batter in the bottom of the ninth, and with that, the Twins secured only their second road series win on the season, the first one since the Royals series that opened the season for the Twins. Postgame interview What’s Next? The Twins head back home, where they’ll start a four-game series against the Cleveland Guardians at Target Field. The series opener is scheduled for 6:40 pm CDT on Thursday (6/1), with Pablo López (3-3, 4.11 ERA) set to make the start for Minnesota and Tanner Bibee (1-1, 2.88 ERA) toeing the rubber for Cleveland. Bullpen Usage Spreadsheet SAT SUN MON TUE WED TOT Sands 0 16 0 48 0 64 Stewart 13 0 18 0 13 44 J. López 22 0 6 0 16 44 De León 0 27 0 0 16 43 Durán 12 0 29 0 0 41 Jax 0 12 0 8 0 20 Morán 9 0 0 1 0 10 Pagán 0 7 0 0 0 7 View full article glunn 1
Mortimerkenny21 Verified Member Posted June 1, 2023 Posted June 1, 2023 What a showcase by Louie V. Hope it continues to build his pride and confidence. You belong here Louie! Nice win! And props for the offense doing some clutch hitting keep it up. wabene, LiamC, JDubs and 14 others 16 1
twins_89 Verified Member Posted June 1, 2023 Posted June 1, 2023 I really hope that no one in the Twins organization is considering putting Maeda back in the rotation. dex8425, mrtwinsfan, weitz41 and 14 others 17
LiamC Verified Member Posted June 1, 2023 Posted June 1, 2023 12 minutes ago, twins_89 said: I really hope that no one in the Twins organization is considering putting Maeda back in the rotation. I really love Maeda... but with the rotation the Twins' strongest aspect and the bullpen struggling so, it just seems like it doesn't make sense to put him as a starter. If Varland had pitched horribly instead of fantastically today, then I could see it. All that said, if Maeda could come back up and swing into action as a set-up man? Boy would that solve some problems! darwin22, LastOnePicked, Dman and 16 others 19
IndianaTwin Verified Member Posted June 1, 2023 Posted June 1, 2023 I was busy tonight, so unable to follow along. Apparently the sky didn’t fall. I can’t wait to skim through the Game Thread for the several pages of grumbling about the getaway day lineup. TwinsAce, Squirrel, SwainZag and 13 others 15 1
IndianaTwin Verified Member Posted June 1, 2023 Posted June 1, 2023 20 minutes ago, twins_89 said: I really hope that no one in the Twins organization is considering putting Maeda back in the rotation. Starting on Tuesday, they have a stretch of 28 games in 30 days, including a stretch with 16 straight. If everyone remains healthy, I suspect we’ll see a couple trips through a six-man rotation when Maeda is healthy enough to join it. With the All-Star Break soon after, I could see that as a time to skip Ober and Varland to save a few innings. chpettit19, wabene, weitz41 and 5 others 7 1
Jocko87 Verified Member Posted June 1, 2023 Posted June 1, 2023 2 minutes ago, IndianaTwin said: Starting on Tuesday, they have a stretch of 28 games in 30 days, including a stretch with 16 straight. If everyone remains healthy, I suspect we’ll see a couple trips through a six-man rotation when Maeda is healthy enough to join it. With the All-Star Break soon after, I could see that as a time to skip Ober and Varland to save a few innings. Yup, I think Maeda will get some starts and pair nicely with the long man that never sees action. LiamC and Old Crow 2
Jocko87 Verified Member Posted June 1, 2023 Posted June 1, 2023 I have really enjoyed watching young Louis pitch well but I’m far more impressed against who and where he is doing it. Two trips to Yankee stadium and now the healthy defending champs in their place and doing more than holding his own is darn impressive. Nine of twelve, chpettit19, wabene and 20 others 23
Danchat Old-Timey Member Posted June 1, 2023 Posted June 1, 2023 Heck of a game by an offense that didn't look like it would produce much! Weird how we're doing so well against the Astros and the Yankees. Varland is a legit MLB starter and I wouldn't move him out of the rotation for Maeda. Kenta hasn't been able to stay healthy and we could use him in the bullpen. I would hope he understands that, as I know he's not a fan of moving out of the rotation. Strombomb, glunn, Melissa and 6 others 9
Squirrel Community Moderator Posted June 1, 2023 Posted June 1, 2023 15 minutes ago, IndianaTwin said: I was busy tonight, so unable to follow along. Apparently the sky didn’t fall. I can’t wait to skim through the Game Thread for the several pages of grumbling about the getaway day lineup. It was a good thread … not to give it all away wsnydes, wabene, LiamC and 3 others 6
SwainZag Community Moderator Posted June 1, 2023 Posted June 1, 2023 16 minutes ago, IndianaTwin said: Starting on Tuesday, they have a stretch of 28 games in 30 days, including a stretch with 16 straight. If everyone remains healthy, I suspect we’ll see a couple trips through a six-man rotation when Maeda is healthy enough to join it. With the All-Star Break soon after, I could see that as a time to skip Ober and Varland to save a few innings. I think you are probably pretty spot on. If he comes back and struggles, THEN I can see him moving to the pen. I don't think giving any one of our starters an extra day rest at this point in the season is a bad idea either. wabene, IndianaTwin, glunn and 3 others 6
UK Twin Verified Member Posted June 1, 2023 Posted June 1, 2023 Twins win the season series against Houston, they win the season series against the Yankees. What next? Nice to see the Twins score 8 without hitting a home run as well. Jeffers is really hitting the cover off the ball right now - I would be having him catch more than Vasquez at the moment. Stewart did a great job coming in, mainly to prevent Duran from getting loose and potentially entering the game. Got a big 4 game series against Cleveland which we need him for. Melissa, Strombomb, LiamC and 11 others 14
wabene Verified Member Posted June 1, 2023 Posted June 1, 2023 Here we are June 1st. Still in first place. Still over 500. Wrong again my friend. Get your crow. Dman, IndianaTwin, SwainZag and 1 other 4
bighat Verified Member Posted June 1, 2023 Posted June 1, 2023 I winced when I opened MLB.com this morning, but when I was finally brave enough to open my eyes I couldn't believe it. A truer "getaway day" lineup doesn't exist, yet they went out there and clobbered the 'Stros and took the series. Castro, Solano, Kirilloff and Varland fill up the stat sheet? Would be happy if they could build on this. 5 of the first 6 Twins outs came via strikeout, which is just something that can't continue to happen. Dman, Karbo and LiamC 3
FlyingFinn Verified Member Posted June 1, 2023 Posted June 1, 2023 Very nice game by Solano. Julien will be a great OBP guy and hitter but I'm just not seeing him ever being better than a bad fielder. Sure wish we had a DH spot open for him. tarheeltwinsfan, Dman, weneedneshek and 2 others 5
Karbo Verified Member Posted June 1, 2023 Posted June 1, 2023 Varland was great, and should have been allowed to at least start the 8th IMO. tarheeltwinsfan, SF Twins Fan, LiamC and 5 others 8
William K Johnson Verified Member Posted June 1, 2023 Posted June 1, 2023 Enough of the Julien experiment at this time. Send him back across the river, put Farmer at second until Polanco returns. Also, how much longer until Wallner supplants either Kepler or Gallo? Did anyone miss Correa and/or Buxton in the lineup last night? Finally, is Willi Castro the Twins MVP through the first third of the season? Dman, AceWrigley, bighat and 6 others 9
wsnydes Old-Timey Member Posted June 1, 2023 Posted June 1, 2023 So, offense is fun! Nice outing by Varland. Pretty encouraging to see him work through the couple of tough spots he found himself in. chpettit19, wabene and bighat 3
wabene Verified Member Posted June 1, 2023 Posted June 1, 2023 20 minutes ago, Karbo said: Varland was great, and should have been allowed to at least start the 8th IMO. You are entitled to that opinion and it is shared by many. My questions: What is the fascination of pushing pitchers to their absolute limit at every opportunity? Does this make any sense to do this in an era with such frequent pitcher injuries? In a game like this with a lead like that, I would argue that is the exact time to ease up on your valuable young starter. Riverbrian, chpettit19, Squirrel and 19 others 22
mikelink45 Old-Timey Member Posted June 1, 2023 Posted June 1, 2023 I loved this game - maybe the best of the season. Varland has proven he belongs in the major league rotation. I do agree I would have let him go to the 8th and if a shut out the 9th. To have offense and pitching both clicking is great. Too bad Lopez had to implode. I have never seen a worse appearance. But it is not a single event. Look at his last games. He threatens to become this years Pagan. After a poor second half last year what is our confidence level. The BP needs help. Last 5 Games Date Tm Opp Result App,Dec DR IP H R ER BB SO HR HBP WP IBB PO BK BF Pit Str StL StS GB FB LD PU Unk GmSc IR IS WPA aLI cWPA acLi RE24 2023-05-31 MIN @ HOU W 8-2 8-8 1 0.0 2 2 2 1 0 2 1 0 0 0 0 4 16 9 0 1 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 -0.029 0.14 -0.02% 0.14 -2.982 2023-05-29 MIN @ HOU W 7-5 (10) 8-8 1 1.0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 3 6 4 1 1 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.029 0.52 0.02% 0.52 0.478 2023-05-27 MIN TOR W 9-7 9-9 3 0.0 3 3 3 0 0 1 1 0 0 0 0 4 22 14 2 1 0 0 3 0 0 0 0 -0.136 0.66 -0.08% 0.61 -2.974 2023-05-23 MIN SFG L 3-4 7-7, BL 1 1.0 2 2 2 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 5 18 11 2 1 1 2 1 1 0 0 0 -0.359 1.56 -0.22% 1.61 -1.537 2023-05-21 MIN @ LAA L 2-4 7-7 0 0.1 2 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 3 12 6 1 1 1 1 1 0 0 1 1 -0.276 1.58 -0.19% 1.84 -2.066 LiamC and Dman 2
Peter Verified Member Posted June 1, 2023 Posted June 1, 2023 Kepler at bat in 3rd was turning point of game. That was strikeout. Huge series win!! Much needed!!! Let’s hope this can spark twins rest of season Nivaboy 1
wsnydes Old-Timey Member Posted June 1, 2023 Posted June 1, 2023 21 minutes ago, wabene said: You are entitled to that opinion and it is shared by many. My questions: What is the fascination of pushing pitchers to their absolute limit at every opportunity? Does this make any sense to do this in an era with such frequent pitcher injuries? In a game like this with a lead like that, I would argue that is the exact time to ease up on your valuable young starter. And I would add that a game like that is a perfect time to get a guy like Lopez work in a low leverage situation to work out some kinks. It obviously went poorly, but that's why you do it. You have some room for error. Plus, there's still a lot of season left and the young starters are already being relied on heavily. And as @IndianaTwin noted, they're coming up on a stretch of 28 games in 30 days. Fresh bullpen arms are easier to cycle through than the rotation guys. I wouldn't have been upset if Varland came out for the 8th, but I don't think it was necessary and there were better uses for that situation in my opinion. SwainZag, stringer bell, Jocko87 and 14 others 17
TwinsDr2021 Verified Member Posted June 1, 2023 Posted June 1, 2023 21 minutes ago, wabene said: What is the fascination of pushing pitchers to their absolute limit at every opportunity? He was averaging 12 pitchers per inning, if he goes one more he is still under 100 pitches. Is that the absolute limit? if so that is sad, the other starter threw 102. My observation of the game was, the offense finally came though when needed. Maybe give Buxton and Correa another day off. As for pitching two complete opposite approaches one pitcher ran his pitch count up, lasted 4.2 innings recorded 13 outs of which 8 were K's. The other pitcher was way more efficient lasted 7 innings but only had 5 K's. Give me the more efficient pitcher every time, Maybe Gray could learn a thing or two about not trying to strike out every batter. DJL44, Dman, MABB1959 and 5 others 7 1
TwinsDr2021 Verified Member Posted June 1, 2023 Posted June 1, 2023 2 minutes ago, wsnydes said: And I would add that a game like that is a perfect time to get a guy like Lopez work in a low leverage situation to work out some kinks. It obviously went poorly, but that's why you do it. You have some room for error. Plus, there's still a lot of season left and the young starters are already being relied on heavily. And as @IndianaTwin noted, they're coming up on a stretch of 28 games in 30 days. Fresh bullpen arms are easier to cycle through than the rotation guys. I wouldn't have been upset if Varland came out for the 8th, but I don't think it was necessary and there were better uses for that situation in my opinion. I would argue this was the perfect game for Pagen to come in for two innings and close the game out and not waste Lopez and Stewart in a 8 - 0 game, but what do I know.
wsnydes Old-Timey Member Posted June 1, 2023 Posted June 1, 2023 6 minutes ago, TwinsDr2021 said: I would argue this was the perfect game for Pagen to come in for two innings and close the game out and not waste Lopez and Stewart in a 8 - 0 game, but what do I know. I imagine that the idea was that Lopez wouldn't get shelled and would be able finish out the game. It's not like Pagan was guaranteed to get through the rest of the game either. But yes, that would have been another option. Not the one I would choose, but not one I'd have been upset with either. At least it was Stewart that was burned up and not one of the better relievers. Stewart can be sent down for a fresh arm.
Riverbrian Old-Timey Member Posted June 1, 2023 Posted June 1, 2023 No Correa, No Buxton, No Lewis. 8 Runs and a Victory Baseball is played terribly on paper. IndianaTwin, wabene, weitz41 and 14 others 11 6
wabene Verified Member Posted June 1, 2023 Posted June 1, 2023 20 minutes ago, TwinsDr2021 said: He was averaging 12 pitchers per inning, if he goes one more he is still under 100 pitches. Is that the absolute limit? if so that is sad, the other starter threw 102. My observation of the game was, the offense finally came though when needed. Maybe give Buxton and Correa another day off. As for pitching two complete opposite approaches one pitcher ran his pitch count up, lasted 4.2 innings recorded 13 outs of which 8 were K's. The other pitcher was way more efficient lasted 7 innings but only had 5 K's. Give me the more efficient pitcher every time, Maybe Gray could learn a thing or two about not trying to strike out every batter. If anything was "sad" wouldn't it be that the other starter only got 4.2 innings out of his 102 pitches? We've got a young, strong, determined starter on our hands who is likely going to blow by his most innings pitched in a season this year. This management staff has managed to keep Duran healthy after only pitching 16 innings 2 years ago. They have Joe Ryan, a rising star with a smooth delivery and a clean injury history. If he's got his flow going they've run him up to I think about 108 pitches. When late in a start he had a draining what was it 15-20 pitch at bat and is losing velocity, they pull him at 89. This strategy seems to be working. Pushing a starter to a complete game, shut out or no hitter etc achieves essentially bragging rights but not much else. I prefer a winning, healthy starter for a full season. Look at what happened with Johan, do you think he would trade that one game for a longer, healthy career? DocBauer, SwainZag, JDubs and 1 other 4
MABB1959 Verified Member Posted June 1, 2023 Posted June 1, 2023 I think Rocco should ride this line-up for a few more games. I know it is at home and fans want to see Buxton and Correa. Kepler absolutely should be pulled. This may give fans a chance to get to know the other players What other game do they sit the hottest players? I would go at least one more game to see what happens. This would give last night's players a "reward" for their hard work and incent others to play to their best or back to the bench. Strombomb, Mortimerkenny21, LiamC and 2 others 5
jmlease1 Verified Member Posted June 1, 2023 Posted June 1, 2023 7 hours ago, IndianaTwin said: Starting on Tuesday, they have a stretch of 28 games in 30 days, including a stretch with 16 straight. If everyone remains healthy, I suspect we’ll see a couple trips through a six-man rotation when Maeda is healthy enough to join it. With the All-Star Break soon after, I could see that as a time to skip Ober and Varland to save a few innings. I think you've got this backwards. 28 games in 30 days isn't where you need an additional starter unless we end up with a double-header. It's the bullpen where we could get overstretched, especially if we get a couple of short starts. And adding a starter to the roster means one less reliever (remember, we're capped at 13 pitchers now). Maeda makes much more sense in relief right now, especially if as a former starter he could consistently take 2 innings every three days. Really good start from Varland. I think I would have let him try the 8th; as much as giving Lopez a shot in low leverage makes sense, it was also an opportunity to see how Varland does 3rd time through the order and seeing how his stamina holds up pushing 100 pitches. But I don't have a big objection to giving him 7 shut-out and having him call it a night. (There's almost no chance of him throwing a complete game in this situation, so taking it off the table after 7 is fine) Really good hitting last night overall too. Seems like every time I get down on Solano and start suggesting it's time to move on from him he has a good game. Castro is having an excellent stretch and is proving to be better that I thought for sure. He played nice defense at 3B too. I love winning a series against Houston. Dman, DocBauer, LiamC and 2 others 5
MABB1959 Verified Member Posted June 1, 2023 Posted June 1, 2023 Just now, wabene said: Pushing a starter to a complete game, shut out or no hitter etc achieves essentially bragging rights but not much else. I prefer a winning, healthy starter for a full season. Look at what happened with Johan. Is their a trend of players pitching at least 7 innings or 100+ pitches hitting the injury list the next day? TwinsDr2021 and Hosken Bombo Disco 2
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