PDX Twin Verified Member Posted April 19, 2022 Posted April 19, 2022 1 hour ago, Seth Stohs said: 100% agree... it's crazy to me that a respected national writer would even think of this, much less spend any time writing about it. Perhaps this is how "respected" writers start to lose respect? Seth Stohs 1
Squirrel Community Moderator Posted April 19, 2022 Posted April 19, 2022 28 minutes ago, Seth Stohs said: Yeah, it was a national talker due to who sent out the message. It's definitely good to point out those kinds of things, even if they're silly to most of us. I don't think we should be giving such idiocy a platform, personally. I think we can establish a line ... but ... such is life Mike Sixel, Jerr and Vanimal46 3
chinmusic Verified Member Posted April 19, 2022 Posted April 19, 2022 1 hour ago, TheLeviathan said: Byron Buxton gets hurt doing pretty much everything involved with playing baseball. and even stuff NOT involving baseball. Didn't he chip a tooth eating a steak? I say let him do his thing. He's 10 games into a 7 year deal. How awesome is that?
Vanimal46 Old-Timey Member Posted April 19, 2022 Posted April 19, 2022 34 minutes ago, Seth Stohs said: Yeah, it was a national talker due to who sent out the message. It's definitely good to point out those kinds of things, even if they're silly to most of us. It’s sad you feel like this is good content. Twins Daily is inching closer and closer to being Buzzfeed. Mike Sixel 1
Craig Arko Old-Timey Member Posted April 19, 2022 Posted April 19, 2022 Clearly this writer is a White Sox mole. tarheeltwinsfan, Jerr, Squirrel and 2 others 1 4
nicksaviking Community Moderator Posted April 19, 2022 Posted April 19, 2022 15 minutes ago, Vanimal46 said: It’s sad you feel like this is good content. Twins Daily is inching closer and closer to being Buzzfeed. The cringe inducing take doesn't bother me too much; there's probably not a poster on this site with more than 10 posts who hasn't shared at least one truly terrible opinion. We as sports fans probably do take a game made for kids too seriously. It's the clickbait-y, question mark headline that I disagree with. ashbury and big dog 2
Seth Stohs Site Manager Posted April 19, 2022 Posted April 19, 2022 10 minutes ago, Vanimal46 said: It’s sad you feel like this is good content. Twins Daily is inching closer and closer to being Buzzfeed. Well, one thing we want to do is give voices to a variety of thoughts and opinions. As someone who does editing and scheduling, I fight myself often and have to keep reminding myself that just because I may think this topic or this opinion is silly or even out there, there may be other Twins fans who agree with whatever topic. Even something like this, that I think we can agree that like 95+% of Twins fans would find laughable, there are some fans who think it's worth consideration. That's what the forums are for, agreeing and disagreeing. I don't think even @Cody Christiethinks it's a good idea, but that doesn't mean it can't be discussed. In this case, 95+% of us think it's silly. In many similar articles, it may be more 60/40 or even 50/50. glunn and PopRiveter 2
Vanimal46 Old-Timey Member Posted April 19, 2022 Posted April 19, 2022 8 minutes ago, Seth Stohs said: Well, one thing we want to do is give voices to a variety of thoughts and opinions. As someone who does editing and scheduling, I fight myself often and have to keep reminding myself that just because I may think this topic or this opinion is silly or even out there, there may be other Twins fans who agree with whatever topic. Even something like this, that I think we can agree that like 95+% of Twins fans would find laughable, there are some fans who think it's worth consideration. That's what the forums are for, agreeing and disagreeing. I don't think even @Cody Christiethinks it's a good idea, but that doesn't mean it can't be discussed. In this case, 95+% of us think it's silly. In many similar articles, it may be more 60/40 or even 50/50. If this is the type of content you want to give front page access to and promote on your social media channels, more power to you. I see the replies already on Twitter. Low effort articles will result in low effort, snark replies. The same direction Buzzfeed took and the reason for their decline. I’ve said my piece about this particular author in the Questions section of Twins Daily. There are better authors to support on this site and I won’t contribute to this particular one moving forward. Thanks for your reply. Jerr, Mike Sixel and Original_JB 3
Dave The Dastardly Verified Member Posted April 19, 2022 Posted April 19, 2022 10 minutes ago, nicksaviking said: The cringe inducing take doesn't bother me too much, as there's probably not a poster on this site with more than 10 posts who doesn't have at least one truly terrible posted opinion. We as sports fans probably do take a game made for kids too seriously. It's the clickbait-y, question mark headline that I disagree with. I agree that TD produces enough terrible opinions (myself included) without going outside the realm, but I don't get the general umbrage over this outside opinion. Yeah, it's rather short-sighted and out there in a galaxy far, far away, but it does make you think; is there someway to keep Buxton in the game without making him wear armor? Or by making him "play" only through a video game console? Or is the article an attempt to stimulate "out-of-the-box" thinking? Little play on words there... you know, like keep Buxton in a box so he doesn't get hurt... get it? That's my terrible opinion for the day. I'll have a new one tomorrow. I have a quota. diehardtwinsfan and gil4 2
TheLeviathan Old-Timey Member Posted April 19, 2022 Posted April 19, 2022 I am so over the defense of "all opinions should be heard". No. No they shouldn't. If you're misleading, lying, vacuous, nonsensical, or any other form of "This isn't well intentioned or well reasoned"....screw that. Not only do you not deserve to be heard, we should actively stop your nonsense from infecting otherwise reasonable and interesting discourse. If my wife and I are discussing our plans for the weekend and I want a serious discussion about space travel to the Kepler system....she would rightly tell me to shut up. We teach kids from a young age to have well reasoned, on topic discussions. Then as adults we seem to think letting any inane, down right stupid, harmful, or malicious conversation happen out of some misguided notion of free speech is ok. It's preposterous. Jerr, Musk21, Twins33 and 1 other 4
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted April 19, 2022 Posted April 19, 2022 This is a troll thread, right? Two in a row. Awful. PseudoSABR and Squirrel 2
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted April 19, 2022 Posted April 19, 2022 53 minutes ago, Seth Stohs said: Well, one thing we want to do is give voices to a variety of thoughts and opinions. As someone who does editing and scheduling, I fight myself often and have to keep reminding myself that just because I may think this topic or this opinion is silly or even out there, there may be other Twins fans who agree with whatever topic. Even something like this, that I think we can agree that like 95+% of Twins fans would find laughable, there are some fans who think it's worth consideration. That's what the forums are for, agreeing and disagreeing. I don't think even @Cody Christiethinks it's a good idea, but that doesn't mean it can't be discussed. In this case, 95+% of us think it's silly. In many similar articles, it may be more 60/40 or even 50/50. This is embarrassing. The last two articles didn't deserve front page highlighting at all.
Doctor Gast Verified Member Posted April 19, 2022 Posted April 19, 2022 Thank you Cody for reporting this article and my remark isn't pointed towards you. I've heard a lot idiotic Twins ideas written but this absolutely takes the cake for all the reasons that my friends have stated. Besides this our OF absolutely sucks w/o Buxton. His recent injuries were not defense related and could have happened to anybody. Buxton is the best CF, not having him out there for any amount of time is a crime against the sport.
IndianaTwin Verified Member Posted April 19, 2022 Posted April 19, 2022 1 hour ago, nicksaviking said: The cringe inducing take doesn't bother me too much; there's probably not a poster on this site with more than 10 posts who hasn't shared at least one truly terrible opinion. We as sports fans probably do take a game made for kids too seriously. It's the clickbait-y, question mark headline that I disagree with. You're underestimating me. I'm pretty sure I've shared way more than one truly terrible opinion. ? Squirrel and ashbury 1 1
Ex-Iowegian Verified Member Posted April 19, 2022 Posted April 19, 2022 At least I learned something here. Betteridge's law of headlines... Never knew that. Thanks. Squirrel, Mike Sixel, Jerr and 4 others 7
Harrison Greeley III Verified Member Posted April 19, 2022 Posted April 19, 2022 I really don't see the harm in sprinkling in 20-30 games of Buxton at DH. Do it on getaway days once a week or something like how they would do it with Joe Mauer. His bat is more important than his defense at this point. He's had the 3rd best SLG since the beginning of 2019. Buxton, Polanco, and Correa are the guys in the lineup managers fear and will continue to fear. I'd be fine if all 3 of them were in the DH rotation. They need to stay healthy and it's a very minor mitigation tactic in the grand scheme of things. There's no true DH like Nelson Cruz this year, rest is good, and man do I hate having both Sano and Gary Sanchez in the same lineup. This seems logical to me. Just please don't put Jeffers back at DH again till we're confident he can hit at this level.
tarheeltwinsfan Verified Member Posted April 19, 2022 Posted April 19, 2022 2 hours ago, Dave The Dastardly said: I agree that TD produces enough terrible opinions (myself included) without going outside the realm, but I don't get the general umbrage over this outside opinion. Yeah, it's rather short-sighted and out there in a galaxy far, far away, but it does make you think; is there someway to keep Buxton in the game without making him wear armor? Or by making him "play" only through a video game console? Or is the article an attempt to stimulate "out-of-the-box" thinking? Little play on words there... you know, like keep Buxton in a box so he doesn't get hurt... get it? That's my terrible opinion for the day. I'll have a new one tomorrow. I have a quota. That is your one for the day, my friend. ashbury 1
deanlambrecht Verified Member Posted April 19, 2022 Posted April 19, 2022 5 hours ago, JDubs said: This has to be the most pristine example of Betteridge's law of headlines I've seen in a long time Yep. Exactly. And more than that, it's clickbait and does not meet the criteria for good journalism. Mike Sixel, Squirrel and Jerr 3
GeorgiaBaller Verified Member Posted April 19, 2022 Posted April 19, 2022 Wow---what to say. Although the some is better than none argument is understandable, the better answer is Buck in Center and let Gordon get used to left field. these guys are major leaguers, but Gordon will get much better faster if he stays put and has a constant LF view and smaller field to cover. Buck at DH is like only driving your Ferrari to the grocery store on Saturday, while you take the Caprice Classic everywhere else. I think he has really turned a corner. I am convinced this injury was a fluke. When he plays---he is the heart of the franchise. I think he understands he can't be the heartbeat of he is hurt in the dugout. He really is a generational talent, you don't cut time for those players, you just help them understand when to throttle back and when to stay full speed.
jmlease1 Verified Member Posted April 19, 2022 Posted April 19, 2022 Alex Fast is a moron if he actually thinks this is reasonable, and this article has a supremely click-baity headline. Disappointing. Squirrel 1
glunn Community Moderator Posted April 19, 2022 Posted April 19, 2022 I agree that the original post does not make much sense, but I do think that it's thought provoking. My thought is that the Twins should re-evaluate the padding on the outfield walls to make it as safe as possible, and perhaps move in the warning track in center field so that Buxton has more notice time to prepare for hitting the wall. Dave The Dastardly and Riverbrian 2
Monticore Verified Member Posted April 19, 2022 Posted April 19, 2022 Bad idea. They need him in center.
MTV Verified Member Posted April 19, 2022 Posted April 19, 2022 Use him at DH every couple games, but use him in CF as much as possible without hurting anything
PseudoSABR Verified Member Posted April 20, 2022 Posted April 20, 2022 Are we gonna pinch run for him each time too? Sigh. jmlease1, Mike Sixel and Twins33 3
gil4 Verified Member Posted April 20, 2022 Posted April 20, 2022 14 hours ago, diehardtwinsfan said: The team needs to figure out how to keep him healthy, and that is not going to be done by wrapping him in bubble wrap. I'm willing to try the bubble wrap. Maybe line the walls with the stuff, too. I prefer that idea to the DH suggestion. glunn and diehardtwinsfan 1 1
gil4 Verified Member Posted April 20, 2022 Posted April 20, 2022 3 hours ago, PseudoSABR said: Are we gonna pinch run for him each time too? Sigh. It would have to be a pitcher doing the pinch-running. The last I checked, we had two healthy non-pitcher subs. I think the next improvement at TF is going to be expanded bullpen seating. glunn 1
mnfireman Verified Member Posted April 20, 2022 Posted April 20, 2022 Didn't read all the comments, but on the replay I saw he was jogging out of the box and kicked it down when he saw the ball hit the ground. Either run hard the whole way or stay at first and advance the old fashioned way (SB, WP, PB, E on throw over from P). DH'ing every day will not eliminate this. Let him roam CF and and whatever happens, happens.
Trov Verified Member Posted April 20, 2022 Posted April 20, 2022 I do not understand how shifting Buck to DH would fix the issue presented. He got hurt, to what level it is, while running the bases after hitting. So if the goal is to keep him in lineup hitting, how does just DH him help this, as it was hitting that led to the issue? Last year as well, he hurt his hip running the bases, and he was hit by a pitch later on. Yes, he has got some injuries in the field over his career, but many has been from hitting and running bases too. I believe he broke a toe on a foul ball, hurt a hand on a slide once, as noted hurt hip running bases, been hit by pitches. If he was routinely getting hurt running into walls or on dives in the field I would say this idea is worth entertaining, but the fact that a lot of his value is in his defense, and there is not evidence to suggest that making him just a hitter would reduce injuries to almost none, then why lose his value in the field?
chaderic20 Verified Member Posted April 20, 2022 Posted April 20, 2022 About the only thing more preposterous than the idea of moving Buxton to DH is the idea that just because someone has 26K Twitter followers means they're a voice that should be listened to. Mike Sixel 1
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