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  1. I love the idea but where exactly are we playing him? Fedko may or may not have been superglued to the bench somewhere and we forgot him on the road trip. This team needs to dump Larnach or Bell at the deadline or Roden is going to hit twice a week and not be able to get enough consistency for it to matter.
  2. I guess I see Clemens as a little bit different because he feels like found money and with his age there are questions if this is peak value. I'm not sure he fits in the same category as the other ones. If he was 24 we wouldn't be having the conversation IMO.
  3. I think it's valid to see what people would give up for Clemens, but I'm not rushing to move him. Also, the playoffs in 1987 aren't what they are in 2026 and I think that has to be remembered when considering contention as well.
  4. And even if they don't, being an 80 win playoff team is like being the 6th kid on a group project who didn't do **** but still claims to be an A student.
  5. You know what the worst part is? They didn't even embrace that stupid name with an equally absurd logo! What in the name of bland is this crap?
  6. Yup, and fans here did want Cruz to stay and "mentor" the team and not be moved. (Cited above. People can go back and read in 2021 that there was push back on selling him) I don't understand why we're so afraid to lose assets that mean so little for the future when they could yield the next Joe Ryan or Eduardo Escobar or whomever else. This team is only in "contention" by virtue of everyone else being equally mid. Being roughly, equally "mid" is not the same as being "good".
  7. I think tying up your DH with Bell for another year sounds like a terrible idea. Buxton has needed more time at DH this year than he did last year and it's likely to be a trend that stays given his age. Lewis needs to play and Bell is terrible in the field. I think getting something for him (in addition to the production and good teammates he's been so far) pays off nicely on that 7 million we invested. Let's make it a little more concrete shall we? Bell is basically a DH - so who are teams taht are in contention and need a DH? Well he could go back to Pittsburgh? Or the A's just lost Rooker? Could combo him with Ryan to the Padres maybe. There are options, but from the first two....what about someone like Thomas Harrington or Wilber Dotel? Gunner Hogland? To me I'd take a shot at that over whatever he can offer in the waning months. At least you have a chance at something interesting.
  8. Same logic being applied 5 years later. Had we listened in 2021 we wouldn't have our ace. Something is better than nothing.
  9. Well, I didn't saying he wasn't contributing, but a WAR of .6 pretty well sums up what I did say: that he provides "limited" immediate value. The same argument you're making now was used to argue against trading Nelson Cruz in 2021. I'm quite glad we made that deal and have enjoyed "looking at the young guy" we got in return.
  10. I guess part of the issue here is what we're defining as a lottery ticket. But the point being Josh Bell will offer absolutely nothing of value to the Minnesota Twins or us as fans after sometime in early October. Trading him at least opens the possibility for options that will. People seem to forget we were having the same debate about whether to deal Nelson Cruz for some slappy named Joe Ryan. A chance at something is better than guaranteed nothing. And we have a particular part of our team that could use a whole lot of darts at "something" right now.
  11. First - that great slash line he's put up has elevated him to a 103 OPS+ - meaning he needed this run just to get to league average. He's a butcher in the field and his 2027 slash line with the Twins will look like this: NA/NA/NA. He's the definition of a guy you trade for a lottery ticket and be happy to do so. Even if Roden comes up because we go back to two catchers there will still need to be a place for him to play. With Larnach and Bell occupying so many at-bats at those positions I don't know how we call guys up and give real opportunities.
  12. I think that's a totally reasonable position to be in. One thing I'd point out with the 1987 comp...the playoffs looked a lot different then. The Twins would have one hell of a gauntlet to survive to make the same kind of impact the 1987 Twins did just by virtue of how many more series they'd have to win. The other thing, as others have pointed out, is that waiting does not always guarantee the same opportunities. Pablo was circled as a likely trade candidate this last winter and how'd that turn out for us? The lockout uncertainty only adds another layer to the risk of holding on to these guys. I understand where you're coming from, but to me the risk vs. reward calculation is pointing in a pretty clear direction.
  13. Thing about DH is that anyone can play there. We have young guys knocking at the door and Bell provides limited immediate value and zero long-term value. Roden at least presents some hope of long-term value. We are flushing ABs down the drain on a guy is almost literally league average.
  14. Because I'd much rather see Roden. I'd happily give him up for some lottery ticket reliever.
  15. We have 20 runs more this season than the Yankees despite nearly identical statistics. Same for the As, White Sox, and Rays. We have 30 more runs scored than the Marlins despite a worse OPS. We've got some good sequencing going and those extra 20-30 runs are probably the difference between some of us thinking this team is actually contending and not contending.
  16. What possible return for Josh Bell would be "too light"? Hell, I'd probably be content with "Cash considerations" that we actually get in return rather than paying to have him leave.
  17. This entire trade feels like the Family Guy "It could even be a boat" joke except we dealt a good reliever for a guy with a chance to be a good reliever. At least that's what it feels like given we banished Roden to some other dimension and forgot about him in favor of Josh Bell.
  18. It's honestly a good deal to do with luck. We've had some years on the other end of this spectrum where our hit sequencing just didn't yield the run production it should have. This year we're overproducing. There is credit to be given on approach and coaching (clearly cutting down on Ks is a big help) but some of it is just the nature of baseball where 110 mph off the bat is an out and a "excuse me" swing dump into shallow center is a hit. Baseball is prone to randomn outcomes.
  19. This team is 3 games under .500 in a terrible AL with a negative run differential. The word "competitive" is doing some heavy lifting in this thread. I'm glad this has been a presentable season in 2026. Truly. Happy to win a series in New York! But you know what Twins team I'm also going to care about? The 2027 one. And 2028. And as many more as I have on this earth. Which is why I'm not going to chase false opportunities when it'd be better to keep loading up for future ones. Trading Larnach, Jeffers, Ryan, Bell, Caratini and anyone else who isn't a likely part of 2028 is just good asset management and gives the best chance at ACTUAL contention. Sell - we have real, true sell-high guys that contenders need right now. Let's do the smart thing not the emotional thing.
  20. It was a good week, but the Yankees are reeling and we caught them at a good time. Reminder - this team is still under .500 and still has a negative run differential We've been on this ride a few times this year.
  21. This is basically how the NHL system operates. Baseball would probably have to have longer term lengths than the NHL does since their players tend to elevate faster, but every drafted player could just be given a 4-7 year contract and at that point the team needs to renegotiate. Hockey does three, I think personally 5 sounds about right for baseball.
  22. Right, coupled with the Rule 5 change you're going to have a lot of potential careers knee-capped long before they get a real chance. At least right now, without these changes, players are afforded more time and opportunity to snatch that chance to be a big leaguer.
  23. Unless Roden and Rojas for Varland is on the table.....pass on any trades for established guys. Relievers are at their highest "buy" point right now and the investment simply isn't worth the risk. I'd argue you can sell and improve this pen AND not jeopardize the future.
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