TheLeviathan
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But then you made that comparison anyway. If you didn't think it had validity as an argument, why go to the lengths to post it?
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Speaking as someone who grew up in rural, outstate....yes, that has always been a common issue in rural areas. Politics, moreso now than ever before in my life, is exacerbating it on purpose. Minneapolis, New York, Chicago, Portland being specific targets of late. -
One element of our current politics is telling a group of our electorate that cities are unsafe. I agree that there should always be an effort for cities to market themselves as welcoming, but the problem is not the reality or the PR...it's the poison in the "perception".
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If I told you that MLB is broken because none of the NHL, NFL, or NBA leagues allow their teams to get to 100 wins what would you say? Now apply that same logic about the nature of baseball. Baseball has a crap ton of random outcomes in any sample. Way more than the NBA or NFL and more even than the NHL. We should make competitive balance arguments within the confines of MLB because the game itself is too different to be compared in the manner in which you are.
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City leadership are politicians, so by definition you did bring in politics. (Though, in fairness, the previous poster did as well) The problem with the "perception" you are vaguely referring to is that it is also political and prejudicial. We're in a tough spot generally getting people to get off "perceptions" where they are spoon-fed falsehoods. I hope for the sake of many of those with such perceptions that they find the means to open their perspectives so that they can let truth and reality back in.
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I say this as respectfully as possible, as someone who grew up in super rural Minnesota myself.....this is nonsense. Your world-view could stand an injection of empathy and understanding. I hope you find it someday, you'll be surprised at how it softens you to the real world rather than the hardened one you've imagined.
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Devil is certainly in the details. I'll continue to root for the players to get a 60-40 split of revenues. Putting aside the legalise and PR shenanigans, any proposal that does not include a cap and floor is going to be swimming upstream on public sentiment. The Athletic's fan poll has some interesting elements but it's pretty clear that what the players are willing to hold out for doesn't align with what fans want. Especially since I'd argue sports fans reading the New York Times are probably about the most player-sympathetic data-set you could possibly hope for as players. The average fan is going to be (in my opinion) even further towards the ownership argument that any agreement without a cap is not good for the game.
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Can you elaborate on the payroll/revenue point please?
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People are right that this is a culmination of a series of terrible decisions. "Right sizing" the business was the thumb in the eye that I think caused many fans to finally tap out. I'd bet good money the Bananas pack the house in August. Baseball needs to start leaning in to being a fun sport to spectate. Our European friends have come over here and shown that you don't have to sit on your hands - you bought a ticket, have some life! Have fun! At some point some daring ownership group is going to let their major league team buck all the fuddy-duddy nonsense and have some damn fun in the stands. Would do the Twins some good to consider that.
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You have so many ifs in here I couldn't possibly calculate the odds of all of it happening plus no other setbacks. You are engaged in wishful thinking. That's for lottery tickets not MLB front office work.
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Gulity as charged for strongmanning his position. Low 70s still feels righr to me too.
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I also share some future optimism....all the more reason to sell high or on assets with less team control to build around the future. Passing on future assets for an 81 win team seems silly.
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Two things can be true though....was it manipulative and meant to garner public support? Of course, public relations spin will be constant. The players gave phony lip service about caring about fans too. What is common sense is the hard cap/floor where there is decided fan support. On the central issue the owners are more aligned with fans and their initial salvo backed that. Then they lost the plot.
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The owners started with a super common sense proposal. It has been straight up nonsense ever since.
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Trading Trevor Larnach Just Makes Too Much Sense
TheLeviathan replied to Sam Caulder's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
At some point, if most of a forum has you on ignore, it may be time for it to go past everyone having to select that function. -
I have skepticism about advanced defensive statistics. However, these say we suck. We definitely suck. So that works in the favor of this model.
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Being the best of the worst is basically you're argument....I find that to be a low bar for "contender"
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You absolutely get to include NAW. (Though you do need to include Gobert on the other side) Some of the picks used to get Ayo came from that sign and trade. Choosing Randle over him was the second biggest mistake of his tenure IMO. I think I'll always hold Chris Finch in a high level of contempt because he talked this team into targeting Randle in that KAT trade. Had they decided instead to move him for picks this calculation is much, much different. It simply can't be overstated that you turned a top 25 NBA player, who was young, into a negative asset, a 6th man, and Beringer. Given the price tag guys like Bane, Bridges, Beal, etc. commanded you could have absolutely sold him for much, much more. Just for reference - a few months later a player with a worse contract (Fox) got traded for Lavine, 3 firsts, and 3 seconds. Pascal Siakam that same year netted 3 firsts. Harden went for 4 firsts. Mikael Bridges went for 4 firsts. We got Julius ****ing Randle. It's malfeasance.
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I love the aggression....but the calculations aren't adding up so far. The KAT deal can't be seen as anything but a blunder at this point. I love the Ball trade though.
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Below .500. Terrible defense. Inconsistent. No bullpen.
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Trading Trevor Larnach Just Makes Too Much Sense
TheLeviathan replied to Sam Caulder's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
The one thing I'll give both Bell and Larnach a slight bump for value is that one is a switch hitter and the other is a lefty. Those can be valuable mix-and-match pieces for contenders. They won't blow your doors off with the value you get back, but I bet we can move them both. -
What does "contention" mean to you?
TheLeviathan replied to LakesPibble's topic in Minnesota Twins Talk
We're rope-a-doping the Dodgers right now! Austin Voth lulling them into thinking we're a team that throws out an array of terrible dudes from the bullpen....then pounce in October! Last week's vibes made it two days this week before reality set in for most folks it seems.
