Nine of twelve Verified Member Posted December 20, 2019 Posted December 20, 2019 I was just looking at that exact phenomenon. The Twins really did enjoy facing him this season.Thanks for finding this info. I distinctly remembered us getting some big hits off him this past season. That's why my initial reaction to this signing was not enthusiastic. Now seeing that his ERA was 2.01 in games not pitched against the Twins I give it a definite thumbs up. No mystery about why he thought we'd be a good team for him to pitch for.
Riverbrian Old-Timey Member Posted December 20, 2019 Posted December 20, 2019 Deepen that thing!!! Keep going... bring in the arms! MN_ExPat, USAFChief, wabene and 4 others 7
BrianTrottier Verified Member Posted December 20, 2019 Posted December 20, 2019 Front Office math boys think there pulling one over on us. Is he even a bullpen ace? /s
ChrisKnutson Verified Member Posted December 20, 2019 Posted December 20, 2019 Clippards’s a nice signing, but I think the Twins could still use another left handed reliever because I’m not comfortable rolling into ST with Hardy, Smeltzer, and Thorpe as our options to be the bullpen’s 2nd lefty. Obviously Buchter stands out as the guy we should sign, but assuming we don’t I wouldn’t mind the FO picking up any of Sipp, Cingrani, and or Erlin either.
AceWrigley Verified Member Posted December 20, 2019 Posted December 20, 2019 Any pitcher that has Dick "The Monster" Radatz as one of his comps at B-R is alright in my book. PDX Twin, South Dakota Tom, bird and 2 others 5
rdehring Verified Member Posted December 20, 2019 Posted December 20, 2019 Another solid move that makes the bullpen a bit better and certainly deeper. My hope had been that they would get a second lefty, which certainly can still happen. Looks like this may push Stashak to AAA to start the season, which wouldn't be all that bad. Also looks to push another reliever off the 40-man once they get around to signing a corner infielder, starting pitcher and that lefty. wabene 1
gunnarthor Old-Timey Member Posted December 20, 2019 Posted December 20, 2019 Solid move and I expect a few more like this. I think we're going to load up on solid bullpen arms that can throw 65-70 innings and sort of give a bullpen day to the rotation. If the Twins can't compete and get the top starters, maybe they follow the Rays method and acquire a quantity of rubber arms. Nine of twelve and Dman 2
AceWrigley Verified Member Posted December 20, 2019 Posted December 20, 2019 Clippards’s a nice signing, but I think the Twins could still use another left handed reliever because I’m not comfortable rolling into ST with Hardy, Smeltzer, and Thorpe as our options to be the bullpen’s 2nd lefty.Obviously Buchter stands out as the guy we should sign, but assuming we don’t I wouldn’t mind the FO picking up any of Sipp, Cingrani, and or Erlin either.Clippard actually has better stats against LH hitters than RH, and with the new 3-batter rule, I really like this signing. Dman, Otwins, nicksaviking and 2 others 5
lukeduke1980 Verified Member Posted December 20, 2019 Posted December 20, 2019 I was hoping for Cishek as well. Clippard is fine.
Brandon Verified Member Posted December 20, 2019 Posted December 20, 2019 Clipboard is also a flyball pitcher which bodes well with our OF wabene 1
MN_ExPat Verified Member Posted December 20, 2019 Posted December 20, 2019 Prediction: Alcala will not last in the big leagues. Sorry. I know most people are very high on him. I just don’t see it. And that 5.29 ERA in AA makes me scratch my head how he even got to the bigs.Clippard signing article = Alcala won’t make it in the bigs = ???? But to try and answer that Simply put... stuff. He’s got it, and that will ALWAYS grant players extended opportunity. Whether or not he has success (and that term is subjective in and of itself) in Pro ball (any level) is pretty much irrelevant for the most part. nicksaviking, Danchat, rdehring and 1 other 4
sampleSizeOfOne Verified Member Posted December 20, 2019 Posted December 20, 2019 Clipboard is also a flyball pitcher which bodes well with our OFClipboard: a universal symbol of authority. That and an enormous keyring, um to lock the game down. Not bad as nicknames go, if you be proposing... I sure hope he lives up to it. PDX Twin 1
darin617 Verified Member Posted December 20, 2019 Posted December 20, 2019 2019 Cishek: 2.95 ERA, 4.54 FIP, 8 K/9, 4.1 BB/9, WHIP 1.203 Age 332019 Kintzler: 2.68 ERA, 3.56 FIP, 7.6 K/9, 2.1 BB/9, WHIP 1.018 Age 352019 Harris: 1.50 ERA, 3.14 FIP, 9.3 K/9, 2.1 BB/9, WHIP .933 Age 352019 Hudson: 2.47 ERA, 3.97 FIP, 8.8 K/9, 3.3 BB/9, WHIP 1.137 Age 32 2019 Clippard: 2.90 ERA, 3.89 FIP, 9.3 K/9, 2.2 BB/9, WHIP .855 Age 34 What about comparing those numbers just screams it was a money move? Harris isn't a free agent. Hudson reportedly wants a multi-year deal. Directly from MLBtraderumors: Beyond those surface-level numbers, Clippard, 35 in February, excelled in a number of areas. He ranked in the game’s 98th percentile in terms of average exit velocity allowed, at a paltry 85 mph, and his opponents’ hard-hit rate (28.8 percent) landed in the 95th percentile among MLB hurlers. The .260 weighted on-base average (wOBA) to which he held opponents was also among the game’s best and was a near match for the .264 expected wOBA projected by Statcast. If he would have signed for $7.5M would you have thought this was a better signing? It's not always about the money. Looks on the surface like a steal for the Twins and a great guy to have added to the pen.Will Harris is a free agent. https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/h/harriwi10.shtml#all_br-salaries
Seth Stohs Site Manager Posted December 20, 2019 Author Posted December 20, 2019 Front Office math boys think there pulling one over on us. Is he even a bullpen ace? /s I don't think that anyone would claim that, including them... He signed for less than Romo, who is not a bullpen ace... But they're both good.
SwainZag Community Moderator Posted December 20, 2019 Posted December 20, 2019 Will Harris is a free agent. https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/h/harriwi10.shtml#all_br-salaries My mistake, the last time I looked the Astros turned down his team option and he was scheduled to go to arbitration....which looking again was an article from last offseason.
USAFChief Twins Daily Contributor Posted December 20, 2019 Posted December 20, 2019 Nice signing. Don't stop now, boys. Nine of twelve, Twins33, Lasorda_This_Out and 1 other 4
DocBauer Old-Timey Member Posted December 20, 2019 Posted December 20, 2019 Anyone else on board with giving Moore or Smyly a call in the next few weeks to see if they'd like to resurrect their career as bullpen pieces for a few $M? (Yep, I'm still on that bandwagon)
h2oface Old-Timey Member Posted December 20, 2019 Posted December 20, 2019 If the bullpen all wear the same glasses, (use blank lenses if not needed) and grow similar facial hair, they can bewilder the batters as they will be confused at who is pitching and what is their go to...... Mike Sixel 1
nicksaviking Community Moderator Posted December 20, 2019 Posted December 20, 2019 Anyone else on board with giving Moore or Smyly a call in the next few weeks to see if they'd like to resurrect their career as bullpen pieces for a few $M?(Yep, I'm still on that bandwagon) I'd be on board for either, they both still have some interesting aspects about their game that I think hold open the door for a nice rebound. But I'd probably prefer both to be that 5th (6th) guy who's filling in/auditioning in May while Pineda is out. DocBauer 1
VATwinsFan Verified Member Posted December 20, 2019 Posted December 20, 2019 A nice stocking stuffer, but I still want to see the 2020 SUV in the driveway Christmas morning. FlauerPauer, SwainZag, adorduan and 4 others 7
twins_89 Verified Member Posted December 20, 2019 Posted December 20, 2019 The Twins front office continues to do well with the peripheral moves, unfortunately they still haven't found much success at completing bigger transactions that actually move the needle. adorduan 1
Lasorda_This_Out Verified Member Posted December 20, 2019 Posted December 20, 2019 Nice move...now: 1. Josh Donaldson2. Blockbuster " blow your socks off" trade for a starter. Bring on 2020! D.C Twins, nicksaviking and South Dakota Tom 3
mikelink45 Old-Timey Member Posted December 20, 2019 Posted December 20, 2019 I am curious why he has been on so many teams. I know we are big on clubhouse guys, since his stats are good why does he keep moving around?
BrianTrottier Verified Member Posted December 20, 2019 Posted December 20, 2019 I am curious why he has been on so many teams. I know we are big on clubhouse guys, since his stats are good why does he keep moving around?Probably because he's a good, but not elite relief arm, which is the type of guy who doesn't get many long term offers thrown his way. But he's good enough to stick around the league for a long time. FlauerPauer and mikelink45 2
jorgenswest Verified Member Posted December 20, 2019 Posted December 20, 2019 I am curious why he has been on so many teams. I know we are big on clubhouse guys, since his stats are good why does he keep moving around?I wonder also. It could be that good but not great relievers go year to year when they get to their 30s. They more often get moved at the deadline. They are more easily replaced so why go two years? Romo and Rodney have moved a few times and I don’t think they are clubhouse trouble. mikelink45 and FlauerPauer 2
etwink Verified Member Posted December 20, 2019 Posted December 20, 2019 Another good “secure the floor” move by the Twins FO. You can say what you want, and probably be correct, about their lack of guts in going after a truly high ceiling type of move, but this FO has shown savvy and skill in making sure that their base is solid. Now let’s just make one move for a starter that could potentially blow up in our faces in two years and really go after that ceiling that is there for the taking!! DocBauer 1
sampleSizeOfOne Verified Member Posted December 20, 2019 Posted December 20, 2019 My mistake, the last time I looked the Astros turned down his team option and he was scheduled to go to arbitration....which looking again was an article from last offseason.It's okay. Goonies make mistakes! DocBauer 1
KurtSuzuki'sRedHat Provisional Member Posted December 20, 2019 Posted December 20, 2019 Clippards’s a nice signing, but I think the Twins could still use another left handed reliever because I’m not comfortable rolling into ST with Hardy, Smeltzer, and Thorpe as our options to be the bullpen’s 2nd lefty.Obviously Buchter stands out as the guy we should sign, but assuming we don’t I wouldn’t mind the FO picking up any of Sipp, Cingrani, and or Erlin either.Not sure if your an Athletic subscriber, but Aaron Gleeman had a really interesting breakdown on his inverse splits. He actually holds left handed hitting to a lower batting average than right handed hitters given the types of pitches and location of his pitches. jkcarew, Richie the Rally Goat and ChrisKnutson 3
jkcarew Verified Member Posted December 20, 2019 Posted December 20, 2019 Not sure if your an Athletic subscriber, but Aaron Gleeman had a really interesting breakdown on his inverse splits. He actually holds left handed hitting to a lower batting average than right handed hitters given the types of pitches and location of his pitches.It's pretty unusual, in terms of how significant, and how long he's sustained it. It does make this a more intriguing signing, IMO. jorgenswest 1
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