Otto von Ballpark Old-Timey Member Posted July 7, 2018 Posted July 7, 2018 MLBTR: Red Sox Interested In Fernando Rodney https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2018/07/red-sox-interested-in-fernando-rodney.html (Maybe we need a general Twins trade rumors thread now?)
Parker Hageman Site Manager Posted July 7, 2018 Posted July 7, 2018 With the Twins on the outside of the American League Central race -- a crisp 11.5 games behind the Indians on July 7th -- the team has been rumored to be an active seller. Nick Nelson recently profiled some of the more interesting trading pieces, including closer Fernardo Rodney, who ESPN's Jerry Crasnick reports has drawn the attention of the Boston Red Sox: With the exception of MLB-leading five blown saves (the most recent of which coming in Milwaukee on July 2nd), Rodney has given the Twins plenty of value. If Nelson's projection of one or two decent prospects in return for the Red Sox (or any suitor, really), then it would be difficult to consider the Fernando Rodney Experience anything but a success.
jorgenswest Verified Member Posted July 7, 2018 Posted July 7, 2018 Is it worth pursuing Blake Swihart in combination with a prospect? The Red Sox don’t use Swihart at catcher but Leon and Vazquez set a pretty high defensive bar.
beckmt Verified Member Posted July 7, 2018 Posted July 7, 2018 Is it worth pursuing Blake Swihart in combination with a prospect? The Red Sox don’t use Swihart at catcher but Leon and Vazquez set a pretty high defensive bar.Do not think that would work, but interesting concept, and maybe with a small extra piece it would work. Just worry the Swihart cannot catch well enough to play at this level, but Twins would have time to find out (and could DFA Morrison to make more room).
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted July 7, 2018 Posted July 7, 2018 Not interested in Swihart, unless he's the second piece, and the first is one hundred times better. They won't play willians or Garver, Swihart is worse. .
jorgenswest Verified Member Posted July 7, 2018 Posted July 7, 2018 Not interested in Swihart, unless he's the second piece, and the first is one hundred times better. They won't play willians or Garver, Swihart is worse. .So definitive. How are you so certain?
jimbo92107 Verified Member Posted July 7, 2018 Posted July 7, 2018 Not interested in Swihart, unless he's the second piece, and the first is one hundred times better. They won't play willians or Garver, Swihart is worse. .Always looking for a Swihart deal. Did I have to do that?
AZTwin Verified Member Posted July 7, 2018 Posted July 7, 2018 During the brewer game they were talking about acquiring Dozier. Said they thought he was a good guy and don’t have to give up the farm for him. FWIW
Otto von Ballpark Old-Timey Member Posted July 7, 2018 Author Posted July 7, 2018 and don’t have to give up the farm for him.Yeah, I think the primary reason teams might be targeting Dozier right now would be a perceived low cost. Which, if low enough, might be reason enough to hold onto him.
Broker Provisional Member Posted July 7, 2018 Posted July 7, 2018 Look at the numbers all you want. Rodney simply doean't pass the eye test with me.
Squirrel Community Moderator Posted July 7, 2018 Posted July 7, 2018 Yeah, I think the primary reason teams might be targeting Dozier right now would be a perceived low cost. Which, if low enough, might be reason enough to hold onto him.If a few teams would pursue Dozier because of (rightfully) perceived low cost, might one be willing to up the ante to break the tie?
Danchat Old-Timey Member Posted July 7, 2018 Posted July 7, 2018 Rodney would work fine in a middle inning role for any playoff contender. The problem is I don't think the Twins would get much more than what they did for Kintzler last year (Tyler Watson caliber).
ashbury Verified Member Posted July 7, 2018 Posted July 7, 2018 Always looking for a Swihart deal. Did I have to do that?"Surely you'd like to play for the Twins, Swihart.""Don't call me Shirley, and don't call me sweetheart." * If Nelson's projection of one or two decent prospects in return for the Red Sox (or any suitor, really), then it would be difficult to consider the Fernando Rodney Experience anything but a success.Usually I don't count "and the sooner it happens, the better" as an unalloyed success, but I'll make an exception this time. * Yes, I basically just re-used your same joke. Plagiarism is the sincerest form of flattery.
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted July 8, 2018 Posted July 8, 2018 So definitive. How are you so certain?I spent a lot of time looking at him, and reading comments all over the web. No one likes him anymore.
Otto von Ballpark Old-Timey Member Posted July 8, 2018 Author Posted July 8, 2018 If a few teams would pursue Dozier because of (rightfully) perceived low cost, might one be willing to up the ante to break the tie?Probably not, at least not meaningfully so. Low-cost guys usually aren't worth upping the ante for. Maybe you can get them to include their next DFA candidate like Enns. Maybe they will eat a little more cash. But if you want a notably better return, they'll probably look elsewhere.
Monkeypaws Verified Member Posted July 8, 2018 Posted July 8, 2018 I spent a lot of time looking at him, and reading comments all over the web. No one likes him anymore.I'm reading the same stuff. His star has tarnished.
nater79a Verified Member Posted July 8, 2018 Posted July 8, 2018 Yeah, I think the primary reason teams might be targeting Dozier right now would be a perceived low cost. Which, if low enough, might be reason enough to hold onto him. The only thing that could change that it is if Dozier happened into one of his patented second half hot streaks. But it has to happen soon. Of course, if he goes into a hot streak Twins fans will hollering for the front office to sign him to a 4 yr/ $120 million contract!
Thrylos Old-Timey Member Posted July 8, 2018 Posted July 8, 2018 the team has been rumored to be an active seller. If there are just rumors, then the might be passive, but not active sellers... Re: Rodney (and other trades.) The Twins are close to being competitive and really cannot afford to trade for prospects 2-3 years away. Their bullpen is a huge need at this point, and they should try to get someone who is close this season and caught up into the numbers. The Red Sox have plenty of these types, with Ty Battrey, likely the most prominent. If they can get him for Rodney, he will be the Twins' closer for a while...
Otto von Ballpark Old-Timey Member Posted July 8, 2018 Author Posted July 8, 2018 The only thing that could change that it is if Dozier happened into one of his patented second half hot streaks. But it has to happen soon.If he doesn't heat up soon, maybe he could clear waivers at beginning of August and get traded some time that month.
nater79a Verified Member Posted July 8, 2018 Posted July 8, 2018 I spent a lot of time looking at him, and reading comments all over the web. No one likes him anymore. How high was Swihart at one time on the various national top-100 lists? Top 20? Quite the fall.
TheLeviathan Old-Timey Member Posted July 8, 2018 Posted July 8, 2018 Milwaukee is also a place to target for Escobar. And they have some prospects the Twins may want to take a look at.
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted July 8, 2018 Posted July 8, 2018 How high was Swihart at one time on the various national top-100 lists? Top 20? Quite the fall.Very bad fall!
David HK Verified Member Posted July 8, 2018 Posted July 8, 2018 OMG- so that's why they snuck Belisle onto the roster- as Rodney trade insurance?!? OMG....
ashbury Verified Member Posted July 8, 2018 Posted July 8, 2018 The Red Sox have plenty of these types, with Ty Battrey, likely the most prominent. If they can get him for Rodney, he will be the Twins' closer for a while...Maybe I need to scurry down I-95 to scout Pawtucket tomorrow afternoon...
strumdatjaguar Verified Member Posted July 8, 2018 Posted July 8, 2018 The Twins need Bullpen Help????? Then why did they send Moya back to AAA????
diehardtwinsfan Old-Timey Member Posted July 8, 2018 Posted July 8, 2018 I've split this out/merged threads because spycake is right. Anyways, seems like a good place to keep all the trade rumors threads. We will (sadly) have lots of them over the next few weeks.
Roaddog Verified Member Posted July 8, 2018 Posted July 8, 2018 I really hope Dozier gets traded. At this point we need to assume he isn't coming back anyways
jorgenswest Verified Member Posted July 8, 2018 Posted July 8, 2018 I spent a lot of time looking at him, and reading comments all over the web. No one likes him anymore.How would a team with the record of the Red Sox have space for Swihart if he has no talent? Why not DFA him? He is certain to go through if you are correct.
Blackjack Provisional Member Posted July 8, 2018 Posted July 8, 2018 How high was Swihart at one time on the various national top-100 lists? Top 20? Quite the fall.Think Twins - how far have Buxton and Sano fallen??
ChrisKnutson Verified Member Posted July 8, 2018 Posted July 8, 2018 While a catching tandem of Garver/Swihart wouldn’t be all that bad, I don’t see it as a long term solution. I believe the catcher we’re looking for will need to be found outside the organization. While Realmuto would be awesome, I’d actually prefer Atlanta’s Single A catcher William Contreras, brother of Wilson Contreras.
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