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Arguing over semantics appears to be a favorite pastime around here. No matter what, in the end, you got tomato’s in a reasonable process.

Didn’t know a player was still a prospect after 100 innings,, full seasons of pitching

What player other than Morris won’t be considered a rookie next year? If the list of players is players who used up their rookie eligibility in 26, then it is reasonable that no Twins were on the list

Based on that one of the 4 years was the Covid shortened year for Contreras . Other than that Contreras was consistently in the 3+. WAR range. Also Contreras was deemed an all star. Ryan has not been in that range.

Murphy was younger than Ryan is now when he signed that so there isn’t the length into old age. The last year is a team option still, a 12 million a year AAX is not going to get the Twins a comp pick Kirk got out of signing for his free agent years were at 12 million a year with the contract expiring after his age 1 season In regards to Realmuto and Smith. In what universe has Jeffers done what they gave done to get their money? That is why I didn’t say anything about them. I have never seen anyone compare Jeffers to them. Realmuto’s last contract from what I read was based on legacy and loyalty to the team. Smith’s contract value drops after age 2. There is 35 million in deferred money,.

Lot of names, none are a free agent signing.. The discussion becomes preposterous when somebody brought up the Contreras signing. Ryan’s career pre free agency does not even begin to compare to Contreras’ lead up to free agency. Even then 6/95 should signal Jefferson is not going to get that kind of contract. So that leaves Vasquez 3/30 and McCann 4/40 as long term contracts given out since 2020. Teams are not signing catchers long term

Larnach might bring back an AAAA reliever, or a low minor prospect with upside. Wallner with being in the minors after the disastrous start last year and being out of options, the most one could hope for is Cash.

MLBTR has not always been correct. Jeffers has 6 years of not above 90 games caught. I have not seen a 4 year contract nor a 16 million contract given to an over 30 part time catcher

If the contract is for less than 50 million the compensatory pick would be at the end of the second round. That would be a pick in the 60-70 range. The deciding factor is going to be what Boras thinks he can get. History is not on his side. The guess of 3/45 for a contract might not be that far off. The signing team if in CBT or non revenue sharing might not want to give up a pick. The market might not even be there for Jeffers . I think he takes yhe offer

You say that the Rays don’t sign expensive relievers, then use Matz as an example of the high priced relievers that worked.

The players collectively had a better season this season than other teams.

What stat do they use to determine 100% back? With a counting stat like WAR, of course it is going to be down.. They are likely not pitching for a full season A pitcher’s stamina is going to be down. No throwing for 4-6 months. Building back takes time. The timetable for recovery can be 18 months so a lot depends on the when a surgery is done for early season results Lopez might not be back to full strength until the middle of the season. So yes, he might not be as good in 27 Then again there might a short season so he has more time to build back up

The drafts under Deron were not the best. GIS ascension into scouting director was under. Smith. It will be interesting to see how many of the Falvey people leave.

The decision on Ober will be about is he good enough or not. If the answer is no, he is gone. That will have nothing to do with Ryan, Ryan is about what a team would give up to get him. Ober has nothing to do with that

The Rays caught a year when some of the recent better teams had their struggles. They had players rise rather than falter or have injuries. .