Braves 3, Twins 0: The Bats Disappear Once Again, Waste a Solid Maeda Start

[Hosken Bombo Disco]

28 minutes ago, LastOnePicked said:

Systems are more likely to change people than people are likely to change systems. You nailed it. Signs continue to point to something rotten here in terms of culture, philosophy and execution.

There seems to be a culture issue, granted, but in this case I think it’s just mistakes compounded on mistakes compounded on more mistakes. 

Someone will say, “there’s not one thing that will fix this” or “Arraez by himself wouldn’t help this offense.”

Yeah, tell me about it.

We are too far down the rabbit hole at this point, unfortunately.

[Mike Sixel]

2 minutes ago, Hosken Bombo Disco said:

There seems to be a culture issue, granted, but in this case I think it’s just mistakes compounded on mistakes compounded on more mistakes. 

Someone will say, “there’s not one thing that will fix this” or “Arraez by himself wouldn’t help this offense.”

Yeah, tell me about it.

We are too far down the rabbit hole at this point, unfortunately.

Agreed. Gallo brought in, and Kepler kept for depth (mistake on mistake). It is an emotional reaction to last year having to play all the guys from AA basically last year. To me, that's the best example.

[Hosken Bombo Disco]

Also for people looking for silver linings, remember the Twins squandered their entire 11.0 game lead in the standings in 2019 too, and the world ended that day too. 🙂 but they rallied and won the division anyway. 

[Hosken Bombo Disco]

9 minutes ago, wabene said:

Something evil is afoot here

Something needs to change! 

They could start by changing that OPS against lefties? 

[David Maro]

Traveling today and glad I was. What a laughing stock this team has become. Why bring anyone up from St Paul when Popkins will mess them up too. Last night was a real eye opener on how poorly managed and coached theyare,whose bright idea was it to throw waste high fastballs to start the game. It has been shown to all time and again swing as hard as you can and hope to make contact. The Tigers will be in second place and Twins in third place the middle of next week. If not careful fourth place behind the White Sox.

[Dave Borton]

1 hour ago, Mike Sixel said:

I'm interested in the SS from Arizona

Two of us. Jacob Wilson, Grand Canyon Univ. (listed as 10th)

https://gculopes.com/sports/baseball/roster/jacob-wilson/10812

 

[terrydactyls]

40 minutes ago, jkcarew said:

Now is the time to act to generate hope for 2024. Clear the active roster for youth. Figure out what you have with the youngsters. SELL at the deadline.

I personally don’t think Rocco can manage…but this is mainly the FO’s fault. This figured to be a challenged lineup…counting on way too many being better than they’ve been in recent past…and young starters being immediately good.

Will they have the balls to blow it up NOW? (probably not). If they’re buyers at the deadline, I’ll honestly be as upset with the club as I’ve ever been.

I've been saying that for two years.  I would rather watch rookies with energy than veterans who are lackadaisical.  

[Dave Borton]

1 hour ago, Beast said:

to the FO ever has to answer a tough question from the media.

I have lived in 10 metro areas. I have never seen less assertive writers than I have seen here. Needn't be rude but for heaven's sake, who has asked one hard question of bench mgr or FO office on the very issues we are raising here?

Only Reusse does it from a rhetorical, sarcastic distance where the Twins needn't even respond.

Weak sports press. Get Chip Scoggins into the FO and the clubhouse.

 

[srjr19]

I wasn't able to watch the Twins game today, but it turns out I was able to watch a Twins game with the Mariners playing the part of the Twins. (3-26 RISP in the series)  

On the postgame a comment was made about the Mariners pressing and "over-thinking" their at bats.

Prompting me to ask myself,  "What about when the coaching staff is encouraging batters to over-thing their at bats?"

 

[Dave Borton]

35 minutes ago, Hosken Bombo Disco said:

There seems to be a culture issue, granted, but in this case I think it’s just mistakes compounded on mistakes compounded on more mistakes. ...

Excellent observation. Multiple, in succession. Trades, signings, hires, and  retention.

[Blyleven2011]

2 hours ago, TwinsDr2021 said:

I could care less if he is as healthy as he is going to get, having him up is hurting the team and if the manager and FO can't see that well they are worse than I think they are (and that is pretty bad)

June - 5/42 - .119/.178/.357 that is f'n terrible

AK has played like crap all of June, with Correa that is the middle of the lineup hitting just slightly better than if us fans were in the lineup.

Larnach and Miranda have done nothing worthy of being called up. Wallner has and with Buxton on the DL he can DH.

Getting somebody up that can play center field means we can start being done with Taylor and his .215/.235/.477

They aren't cutting Gallo, but they shouldn't be starting him very often either, he can pinch hit and play some defense. But if they want to cut him, I am for that as well - .186/.239/.395

I will say this if nothing is done prior to tomorrow I may have to actually start cheering on the losses.

 

 

Another laughable season our FO has put together  , can they really be this bad at evaluating talent ...

They don't seem to trust the prospects  to promote them  ...

I could live with some unpolished defense from prospects if the hitting was more exciting from them ...

It's taken 2 years for this FO and manager to notice what the fans have noticed ,,,

boy if that isn't a crock , they are terrible and in hiding ...

[MABB1959]

Looks like the Giants and Mets knew CC is hurt much more than the Twins did. They got so caught up in getting him signed that they obviously missed something.  I agree Buxton is as good as he will ever get.  Not sure if he would consider medically retiring or how that would work.  He needs to seriously take his long term health into consideration.  All the money in the world is not worth the long term affects of playing injured, especially if he is doing long term injuries to his back.  

[mikelink45]

4 hours ago, Twins_Fan_in_NJ said:

Firing Popkins is such low-hanging fruit. Why hasn't it happened yet?

Same reason that Gallo and Kepler play instead of Wallner and Larnach - we have no willingness to step up, make changes, force the issues.  Blah - boring - sit back and hope for the best.  Yuck.

[CRF]

1 hour ago, Aggies7 said:

That’s some word soup lol 

Agree...he talks a lot, but doesn't say anything. 

[Aggies7]

18 minutes ago, MABB1959 said:

Looks like the Giants and Mets knew CC is hurt much more than the Twins did. They got so caught up in getting him signed that they obviously missed something.  I agree Buxton is as good as he will ever get.  Not sure if he would consider medically retiring or how that would work.  He needs to seriously take his long term health into consideration.  All the money in the world is not worth the long term affects of playing injured, especially if he is doing long term injuries to his back.  

Buxton ought to restructure his contract if we’ve already seen him max out 

[Blyleven2011]

2 hours ago, TwinsDr2021 said:

I guess you missed where I said cut Kepler and send Gallo to the bench. I am not mad at Buxton, he is just terrible, and if the Twins want to DL they can, simply by saying he needs to be back in CF and if he can't he needs to go on the DL.

IMO bringing Larnach and Miranda don't do what I want to accomplish and that is shake things up, get players worried about their job and by passing those two for guys in AA does that IMO.

The concept works for me  ... 

Plus bring up gardenhire to replace current manager , for the rest of the season and find someone more qualified with experience  and a gut feeling  ...

[David HK]

Welp, 3 games, 3 runs.

Sounds about right.

Sadly.

I was excited this summer for perhaps a side trip to the Cities while I'm back in the US.  Never seen Target Field.  But wow, I guess I'd just spend the time slurping down the Summit.

[D.C Twins]

I promised a year and half ago that Rocco would be out by the end of this season and... brace yourself.... never coach an MLB team again. (He will be 'promoted' to the FO where I think he will actually do well) 

He is not a leader of men (no shame in that game... it is rare.... but when there are about 30 positions in the US... you'd better be able to do it, because there are plenty of other people waiting to give it a try)

[D.C Twins]

What’s Next?
The Twins travel to Baltimore, where they’ll enjoy a day off on Thursday and start a three-game series against the Orioles on Friday (6/30). Taking the mound for Minnesota is Pablo López (3-5, 4.41 ERA), while the O’s turn to Dean Kremer (8-3, 4.50 ERA). The series opener’s first pitch is scheduled for 6:05 pm CDT.

More mind-numbing baseball from a rudderless team with no capability for offensive adjustments

(Fixed that for you!)

[Danchat]

Wow, that's a disgusting chart. The hitters really mailed it in today.

Sounds like Rocco tore into them behind closed doors, seeing as how the media wasn't allowed in the locker room after the game. I'd guess he's at his wit's end.

[OvertheHill]

9 minutes ago, Danchat said:

Wow, that's a disgusting chart. The hitters really mailed it in today.

Sounds like Rocco tore into them behind closed doors, seeing as how the media wasn't allowed in the locker room after the game. I'd guess he's at his wit's end.

That chart points to the organizational disease that has taken over this team. A really broken approach to preparedness and pitch recognition. The stuff in the job descriptions of managers and hitting coaches. Tweaking lineups, platoons and batting orders ain’t going to fix that, but the FO is apparently going to die on that hill. 

[gman]

Nine games left until the allstar break. 6 against Baltimore and 3 against KC. What are the odds of them going 3-6? I don't expect any changes this week, but the last two weeks of July should be at least interesting. I'm betting the front office is hoping someone will give them a set of golf clubs for a couple of those players.

[Nashvilletwin]

3 hours ago, Mike Sixel said:

How many wins did they have last year with him on the team? Also, it's over. What should they do now?

Didn’t have the pitching last year. So, it’s not apples to apples.  The point is that he played with energy and heart every AB.  And yes, if we had him at the top of the lineup this year, getting on base at over 0.425 clip, probably more of our hitters would be doing better and, yes, we would be winning more games.

But yes, you are correct. It’s over.  My comment was just being sarcastic and pissy.

[bronald3030]

I have not seen so many swings at pitches over thier heads since the last beginners little league game that I went to.

[USAFChief]

51 minutes ago, Danchat said:

Wow, that's a disgusting chart. The hitters really mailed it in today.

Sounds like Rocco tore into them behind closed doors, seeing as how the media wasn't allowed in the locker room after the game. I'd guess he's at his wit's end.

Holy ****.

 

[NotAboutWinning]

12 minutes ago, USAFChief said:

Holy ****.

 

Well put! That is messed up!

[lukeduke1980]

1 hour ago, Danchat said:

Wow, that's a disgusting chart. The hitters really mailed it in today.

Sounds like Rocco tore into them behind closed doors, seeing as how the media wasn't allowed in the locker room after the game. I'd guess he's at his wit's end.

Looks like they followed marching orders and swung at the mistakes. 

[TwinkieFan4life]

8 hours ago, howeda7 said:

 

You can't just IL Buxton because you're mad at him. He's not hurt. He doesn't need to play every day if he's not hitting.

Players that are "not hurt" are typically medically capable of playing all components of the game.  When a guy (who one year ago was considered among the best fielders in the game) can't play one inning in the field as a late game replacement, they are hurt.  

There is NO ONE on the active roster right now who is less valuable.  Julien, who is awful defensively, is more valuable than Buck because he can attempt to play defense.  Look at his hitting numbers from May and June.  He has been really bad at the plate.  

The only thing keeping him on the roster right now is sunk cost (which is a poor reason).

 

[LastOnePicked]

1 hour ago, Danchat said:

Sounds like Rocco tore into them behind closed doors

No, I think he merely let them have a "players only" meeting. Besides, does this sound like Rocco? I can't even imagine him tearing into a bag of chips.

[Aerodeliria]

We fans are stuck on oscillating mode or maybe we had set the timer at 79 games...