Nashvilletwin

So you keep Peralta and get nothing for him? That’s not how a smart, well run franchise like the Brewers operates. They build value and then realize it as all small market teams should do. Sure, some trades may not work out, but they know 100% Peralta is gone at year end. So we get to watch Ryan and Lopez pitch twice a week if healthy and finish the season with decent ERAs but losing records on a 75 win team? Its a strategy, but so is building for a true contender with a solid cheap controllable core in ‘28 post the lockout.

Why should we expect more for Ryan and Lopez than what the Brewers got? We should not over estimate the value of our players (the TD faithful also think Jeffers is going to get us a legitimate controllable immediate starter - unlikely). If you think you can compete, then maybe you roll the dice. But getting those two players from the Mets is WAY better than a full season of Ryan in 2026 when we might win 75 games and a half season of 2027. The Brewers won the most games in MLB last year and still traded their #1. Both the players received are expected to contribute at the big league level this year and are controllable for SIX more years. The Mets might feel they win that trade, but the Brewers feel they win it too. We’d be lucky to get that deal for either Ryan or Lopez. Prediction - what we end up with for both of them will not be as good.

Exactly. The Brewers are more than contenders and they move their top starter whom they know they could never resign for two top 100 prospects, both of whom are likely to contribute this season. So they lose one year of Peralta and get TWELVE years from the other two. Smart move by a smart, much, much better run organization. The Nationals also traded their top starter to the Rangers for a haul which included their #2 prospect - a highly regarded 3B who was the #12 overall pick last year. Meanwhile the completely brain dead, misguided Twins who for some reason think they can contend with what is arguably one of the bottom three rosters in MLB sit on their hands. Five innings of two run ball twice a week from Ryan and Lopez isn’t going to cut it. Let’s all wait and see if their gamble turns out or if they end up blowing the value of Ryan and Lopez. Sadly, my money is on the latter, especially with the work stoppage coming next year.

Of course they aren’t. Neither were the Canucks fans. But it’s the right move. Just like our fans will bellyache when we move Ryan, Lopez, and Jeffers. Teams like the Brewers and the Twins cannot afford to lose their talented players for nothing - even if they are a legitimate contender like the Brewers and ESPECIALLY if they are not even remotely contenders like our beloved Twins. The starting pitcher trade market has been very slow. This is a good sign as pieces are starting to fall,

Whomever the Twins draft at #3 this year. Otherwise its a toss up among Culpepper, ERod and Gonzalez and it doesn’t much matter the order. Ideally we see all three plus Jenkins this year at Target field.

Meanwhile, the Brewers once again demonstrate how a smallish market team should operate. Peralta traded for two top 100 prospects because they weren’t going to be able to sign him when he hit free agency. And this, remember, is a team with legitimate WS possibilities. Very much unlike our Twins. At least the starting pitcher market is opening up. But clearly one buyer has now left the market.

We’ve seen Julien produce and we’ve seen him fall off. Hard to say what caused the fall off, but it might be worth seeing what he can do once he’s no longer under Rocco’s thumb. But Julien (and his agent, btw) probably agree with you and most TDers - he would be much better off getting a fresh start with another organization. He probably can’t wait to get released from this clown show the Twins have been with their young major leaguers over the past half decade or so. He’s probably not the only one either.

Actually, I think Julien did finish the last two months on a pretty decent tear last season.

Is anyone else having trouble getting through to the Twins ticket office? It seems like they are unprepared for the high call volume this morning…….sheesh.

Please TD no politics

Would you trade SWR for Ober right now? I would not - both because SWR is probably better right now and SWR most likely has higher long term value to the organization.

Yes. I wouldn’t be surprised if Ober is out of the rotation by year end.

Possibly missing the most important, relevant question, particularly to T-Cubed: Can the Twins beat last year’s 25 year record low attendance (since 2000, excluding covid) of 1.77 million this season? BTW, when these are your top 25 questions, you know your season’s expectations are in bad shape. One example: the question isn’t if Lewis will actually consistently produce, but whether he will be healthy (as if being heathy is the only factor to guarantee his legitimacy - btw, with Buxton you could say that).

The consensus seems to be that Keaschall now has a weak arm. If so, get real.

Ideally the pattern is full in the OF with our future trio of Jenkins, ERod and Gonzalez. All of those three are better overall defensive OF alternatives inclusive of speed and arm. But who knows.