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  1. I wonder if the Bosox would’ve taken Jeffers for just their single top pitching prospect. That would’ve been a great deal for us - a consensus top #50 overall prospect for Jeffers. Besides, with the lockout pending, the extra year of control in 2027 is not worth as much as in the past. See Joe Ryan…..sadly.
  2. Can we just call it like it is. We’re about 60 minutes from the deadline and we have done zippo of consequence to improve the team for this year or the future. For all practical purposes we’ve treaded water and are watching the value of our best assets plummet. It’s hard to believe this is the strategy.
  3. Hard to believe that we aren’t moving Jeffers and/or Ryan. A couple of ridiculous low probability comebacks are all that separate the Twins from being 6-10 after the AS break But that’s enough to create the delusion about playoff hopes and to abandon building the team for the future. This is what perpetually mediocre franchises do, especially those with weak ownership that can’t take the local heat from the media and fans. Once again, we are half in and half out and we will get no return from our biggest assets. With the strike pending next season, Ryan’s value will plummet. It was lunancy not to take the Bosox deal at last season’s deadline. Nothing for Ryan and Jeffers. We will see about Lopez and Buxton….
  4. 8-8 since the All Star Break. Pretty much treading water, but showing lots of heart. Certainly entertaining. Dipping their toe in the trade market. A couple of so so pitchers for some so so prospects. Will it be enough to tip the scales? Very possibly we will not see a single core player traded: Jeffers, Ryan, Larnach, Bell, Clemens, or Buxton. After the disastrous decision not to take the Bosox offer for Ryan at last season’s deadline, one has to wonder what type of young, cheap talent we might be missing on by pursuing this half in, half out strategy. Sad prediction: when it’s all said and done over the next 18-24 months, the Twins will get absolutely zilch for Lopez, Ryan, Jeffers and Buxton before they leave the franchise.
  5. The Twins would be nuts not to trade Jeffers and capitalize on his peak trade value. What they might lose from his contributions to this year’s pennant charge, they might gain more back to compensate for it this season. Get a couple of players - one or both who could contribute this year and be controllable for at least a couple more.
  6. Warren plus one of Hess or Lalane for Jeffers (and maybe a throw in). Otherwise it’s Tampa Bay.
  7. Haha, love it. If it’s not “Hindsight is 20/20”, then let’s blame it on “politics”. You are correct on the other trades. Good comment.
  8. Ye olde “Hindsight is 20/20” excuse. The better GMs and franchises somehow figure out how to beat that lame way of thinking. Falvey and the Twins are not in that category. Regardless, a top 50 prospect and a very promising left handed, on the cusp starter was plenty for Ryan last deadline anyway. We couldn’t trade Ryan straight up right now for either Tolle or Arias, let alone both.
  9. You’re kidding, right? Arias is overall #3 and #7 top prospect on Baseball America and MLB, respectively. He’s 20 and just demolished AA and was promoted to AAA this week. Tolle is 24. He has a 3.31 ERA and a WHIP of 1.15 averaging over a strikeout per inning in his rookie season. Whom do you honestly think we can get better than those two for a starting to age out, can’t pitch in the 2nd half, wants a huge deal we can’t afford starter? Please, let all of us know a better deal than that.
  10. Another sucker bet - just what this franchise needs. After learning the Bosox offered us Arias and Tolle for Ryan at last year’s deadline, it just makes sense to keep doubling down on bonehead bets when we could be building for the post lockout future. Sheesh. Can you even imagine an infield of Arias, Houston, and Culpepper for six or seven years starting no later than ‘28? Those three are all potential all stars - and not unreasonably so. Not to mention two stud young lefty starters in Tolle and Rojas. What were Falvey and ownership thinking? Probably the same delusional thoughts Shelton and TP are thinking today.
  11. Yep on both counts. To make matters worse, Ryan’s value is dropping daily as well…
  12. 24 year old leftie starter Payton Tolle (3.31 era and 1.1 WHIP with 90+ Ks) and 20 year old SS Franklin Arias - the #7 overall prospect. So we passed on a #2-3 at worst multi year control starter plus an infielder who along with Culpepper and Houston would likely have made up our SS, 2B, and 3B lineup for six to seven years starting no later than 2028. Geez. Falvey really was a clown.
  13. Hard to believe Falvey turned down that deal from the Bosox for Ryan last deadline: a high quality no worse than a #2 or #3 left handed young starter and the #7 overall prospect 20 year old . No wonder he was fired. What a joke.
  14. Wow, just read what the Bosox offered for Ryan at last year’s deadline. No wonder Falvey was fired…
  15. Houston and Quick over ERod - at least the first two have a chance to be major leaguers….with the Twins at least. Wouldn't be surprised if ERod is traded over the next week.
  16. Trade Jeffers for a solid reliever and one or two of Wallner, Roden, Larnach, and Rodriguez for a solid #3 starter (preferably Larnach and Rodriguez are the ones kept, but that will depend on what we can get back).
  17. Here is what everyone is forgetting: a salary cap and floor is coming. Make no mistake about it. It will be here no later than 2028. The floor will be at least $175MM (maybe there is a ramp up period over a year or two). The Twins are going to need to spend money. A lot of it. This is why they will hold off trading Ryan now (and Buxton for that matter). They will hold onto Ryan this year, play out their unexpected competitive season, and then decide if Ryan is the right guy to extend or trade over the off-season. The Twins are going to be chock full of young, cheap, up and coming position players and pitchers in ‘27 and ‘28. They will need to augment that roster with a handful of higher priced players - Ryan just still might be one of them. If they trade him now, the Twins will lose that option on Ryan (as he will surely be extended by the acquirer). He stays.
  18. So you keep Peralta and get nothing for him? That’s not how a smart, well run franchise like the Brewers operates. They build value and then realize it as all small market teams should do. Sure, some trades may not work out, but they know 100% Peralta is gone at year end. So we get to watch Ryan and Lopez pitch twice a week if healthy and finish the season with decent ERAs but losing records on a 75 win team? Its a strategy, but so is building for a true contender with a solid cheap controllable core in ‘28 post the lockout.
  19. Why should we expect more for Ryan and Lopez than what the Brewers got? We should not over estimate the value of our players (the TD faithful also think Jeffers is going to get us a legitimate controllable immediate starter - unlikely). If you think you can compete, then maybe you roll the dice. But getting those two players from the Mets is WAY better than a full season of Ryan in 2026 when we might win 75 games and a half season of 2027. The Brewers won the most games in MLB last year and still traded their #1. Both the players received are expected to contribute at the big league level this year and are controllable for SIX more years. The Mets might feel they win that trade, but the Brewers feel they win it too. We’d be lucky to get that deal for either Ryan or Lopez. Prediction - what we end up with for both of them will not be as good.
  20. Exactly. The Brewers are more than contenders and they move their top starter whom they know they could never resign for two top 100 prospects, both of whom are likely to contribute this season. So they lose one year of Peralta and get TWELVE years from the other two. Smart move by a smart, much, much better run organization. The Nationals also traded their top starter to the Rangers for a haul which included their #2 prospect - a highly regarded 3B who was the #12 overall pick last year. Meanwhile the completely brain dead, misguided Twins who for some reason think they can contend with what is arguably one of the bottom three rosters in MLB sit on their hands. Five innings of two run ball twice a week from Ryan and Lopez isn’t going to cut it. Let’s all wait and see if their gamble turns out or if they end up blowing the value of Ryan and Lopez. Sadly, my money is on the latter, especially with the work stoppage coming next year.
  21. Of course they aren’t. Neither were the Canucks fans. But it’s the right move. Just like our fans will bellyache when we move Ryan, Lopez, and Jeffers. Teams like the Brewers and the Twins cannot afford to lose their talented players for nothing - even if they are a legitimate contender like the Brewers and ESPECIALLY if they are not even remotely contenders like our beloved Twins. The starting pitcher trade market has been very slow. This is a good sign as pieces are starting to fall,
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