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  1. Nashvilletwin
    Disagree on the too early comments re these projections. After an approximate 1/2 year lockout in ‘27, the starting lineup in ‘28 should include: Culpepper (2B), Jenkins (CF), Rodriguez (RF), Houston (SS) and Lackey (C). Lee (3B), Lewis (1B) and Keaschall/Mendez/Gonzalez (LF). Buxton is primary DH (for his last year). The starters should include: Bradley, Prielipp, Abel, Quick, and Matthews. This lineup can be augmented by whomever we a) get back for Ryan and Lopez (which won’t be much, if anything) and b) can add via FAs in order to reach the new minimum floor (probably an additional starter or two - and not the overpriced and aging Ryan or Lopez). [Again, I know it’s water under under the bridge, but can you even imagine if we had Arias at 3B, Tolle as a stud LH starter, and Eyanson as a stud RH starter (all acquired from the Bosox if we had pulled the trigger on trading Ryan and Jeffers when we had the chance)? It boggles the mind the ineptitude of our FO/Ownership.]
  2. Nashvilletwin
    100% correct - we should’ve traded Jeffers (at his peak value, nonetheless) when we had the chance. On the other hand on a positive note, the 1961 uniforms were very sharp. The stirrups could be cut higher, but those unis are as good as it gets.
  3. Nashvilletwin
    Thank you for clearing that up. The choice is obvious then if they don’t want to lose him for nothing.
  4. Nashvilletwin
    Query: assuming the lockout, does ERod have to be on the roster before the lockout begins, or, can he continue to play in St.Paul until the lockout ends and then be placed on the roster? If the Twins can wait to promote him until the lockout ends, that’s probably the answer. There is no way in he@# that the Twins just let him walk out the door for nothing (his off season trade value is minimal) without ever seeing him in the bigs. That would be beyond idiotic. But, then again, they got zippo for Jeffers and will get close to zippo for Ryan and Lopez - so I guess it’s possible they could be that dumb.
  5. Nashvilletwin
    100% agree. The ship has sailed on Ryan, Lopez, Jeffers and Buxton (no trade clause not withstanding). After a truncated 2027, we will likely get no value (except for Buxton’s last year probably as a part time DH) from any of these players (please spare us the comp pick excuse). As a small market team that needs to create/build toward open windows, this result is ridiculous. Was it all to satisfy the short term PR support for the Pohlads? When willthey ever learn that their fan support is based solely on the Twins winning. If they truly want even a hint of lasting support from the fan base, they need to create a truly WS competitive contender - not these half baked delusions of ‘25 and ‘26. We will get zero for our four best assets - none of whom will contribute to our next big push. And that big push will be constrained by not moving them. If by some measure we end up resigning Ryan and/or Lopez, either will be a massive overpay. [It’s sickening to think we turned down Arias and Tolle from the Bosox for Ryan at last year’s deadline. What a mistake! We couldn’t get either one of them now for Ryan even if we threw in Houston or Tait. What a complete waste.]
  6. Nashvilletwin
    How about the 10th trade we rejected? Ryan to the Bosox for Franklin Arias and Peyton Tolle. Grade: F Tolle is already outperforming Ryan in the bigs and Arias is a consensus top #10 MLB (post draft, mind you) prospect mashing as a SS in AAA. Can you even imagine an infield of Culpepper, Houston and Arias with Lackey at C and Jenkins in CF as full time starters in ‘28 at the latest and beyond? Plus a stud, young, multi-year controllable LH starter? The biggest screw up by Falvey by far at last year’s deadline was the deal he didn’t do.
  7. Nashvilletwin
    Good for Martin. He’s played hard all season and was a huge factor helping to carry this team in April. He’s very much underrated by the fan base. He needed the bounce back after a rough day Sunday. He has those piranha type qualities very much valued by teams like the Twins.
  8. Nashvilletwin
    Agree 100% - if it even had been possible. But Buxton would have exercised his no trade clause. The ship had sailed on Ryan - likely permanently in terms of getting any significant value back in return (this is a colossal mistake by Falvey (last deadline) and TP/JZ (this year)). Jeffers to the BoSox for Eyanson straight up should have been easily done.
  9. Nashvilletwin
    Nobody wants to hear this, but patience is needed. The most important thing this club can do for its future is to make sure it does all it can to maximize the likelihood of Jenkins, Lackey, ERod, Culpepper and Houston are in the starting lineup come opening day in ‘28 and are positioned to be as immediately successful as possible starting that day. If that means not risking Jenkins, et al not being able to play organized professional ball for some or most of ‘27, so be it.
  10. Nashvilletwin
    Great win! Such an important victory. Huge heart and fight from this team. Love it.
  11. Nashvilletwin
    …..good thing the schedule for the rest of August really lightens up. Btw, 8-10 since the All Star break.
  12. Nashvilletwin
    Luis Arraez is on fire for the Phillies since being acquired. Just saying…..of course, he’s a lefty batter.
  13. Nashvilletwin
    Thank you for the response. Truly. I’m as pleased and excited as anyone about the success the team has had this season. I watch every game and respect the effort and camaraderie exhibited by the players and coaches. I disagree that all the players we gave away in the traded would never be on the Twins. Think about how many times we could say that about current and former Twins who never looked like making it early in their minor league careers. Ryan (from last year’s deadline through this year’s ASG) has been at peak trade value. What we turned down for him last year from the Bosox (a LH starter currently outperforming Ryan and a consensus top 7 SS prospect) isn’t even in the same zip code as to what we might get now. Jeffers had to be at peak value this very week. Now we are looking at best at a comp pick for him. Just my opinion, but that is not good roster management for a small market franchise like the Twins who clearly are looking to create a true window (and justifiably so) in ‘28 post the impending lockout. Yes, I’m skeptical that this team can make the playoffs this year. I’m even more skeptical that they will win a series. Agree, not too much damage was done to our future from the trades (more damage was done by keeping Ryan and Jeffers). But it will be fun to watch how the rest of the season unfolds. I’m looking forward to it. Who knows given how well they have outperformed already, right? It’s just not the cost-benefit conclusion I would’ve thought prudent unless there were other considerations involved. Which leads to your very excellent point and the true crux of the matter. TP, et al, bought some excellent goodwill from the media and the fans with these manoeuvres. Surely that has some benefit to the overall franchise. A few more seats in chairs can’t hurt. It may certainly, from a PR perspective, keep the hounds at bay, particularly if the team can stay in the race into the fall. Those things undoubtedly have value. But at what expense? The moves (or lack thereof) were a calculated, but neither all-in or all-out risk. But it cannot be said that the team’s prospects post ‘27 are now improved. That is when the true opportunity to put a contender on the field begins. And for many of us fans, competing for a WS is really all that matters. If these trades or keeping Ryan and Jeffers prevent even one or two better starters from being on the team at that point, then the cost may not be worth it.
  14. Nashvilletwin
    Seriously, why doesn’t one of the authors on this site publish a well thought out post about how the decisions and actions of TP and JZ at the deadline have improved the chances of the Twins winning the World Series? Cody, Matthew, Nick, anybody? Expect crickets…..
  15. Nashvilletwin
    In what universe is losing the upside of Hill (and Klein for that matter) worth a 1/3rd of a year of Hoffman in ‘26 and who knows how much of a year given the lockout in ‘27 (also at $8.8MM scheduled for ‘27 based on a whole year)? Overall, would someone please explain how these trades, as well the lack of moving Jeffers and Ryan, improves the likelihood of this team legitimately competing for a World Series title? None of the three players we acquired, nor Jeffers and Ryan, will be on this team after ‘27. Please someone explain it - preferably cogently. And do not rely on the argument of “going for it this year”. That is a complete fallacy and pipe dream.
  16. Nashvilletwin
    1. Houston is exactly the type of player who can become the face of specifically this franchise. He does not need to hit 25 plus HRs per season to do that. We are not the Yankees. 2. Would everyone just cool it on calling up Jenkins and/or Culpepper. With the lockout looming there is no chance that even this front office would risk them not playing team baseball for much of next year. ERod is the one who must get healthy and be called up. Wallner too. Those are the most realistic call up offensive options.
  17. Nashvilletwin
    8-9 since the All Star break. Jeffers still a Twin. Ryan still a Twin. Is the IL approaching? Regardless, given his performance and the almost certain lockout in ‘27, his value has plummeted. Our primary divisional and/or wild card competitors all made more significant moves at the deadline. Could someone please explain how this franchise is closer to winning a WS than it was a week ago? We’ve had more than ample opportunities to add substantial talent to the franchise to position this team for ‘28 and beyond and we’ve squandered them. Why? For what? A delusion re this season? Because two crazy wins all of a sudden made this team a real contender? The chance to sell a few more seats in September? Because TP has “grown close” to many players on the team? Because TP had to play the political game with the media and fans? Because Zoll’s only chance to save his job is to win this year? Pick your reason(s). But none of them override the truths about small market teams needing to build for true open windows.
  18. Nashvilletwin
    Not trading Jeffers was ludicrous. I wonder if we could’ve got just that one top RHer prospect from the BoSox. That would have been a great deal. Wait and see - we will get nothing for Ryan either. The Twins actions at the deadline have not substantively moved the dial on competing this year, while missing the opportunity to substantively improve the franchise in the future. Sorry, but this year’s deadline only proved that Tom P played the political game with the media and fans. His illusion of aggressiveness has pacified many TDers, but did not contribute to the goal of creating a WS champion.
  19. Nashvilletwin
    I wonder if the Bosox would’ve taken Jeffers for just their single top pitching prospect. That would’ve been a great deal for us - a consensus top #50 overall prospect for Jeffers. Besides, with the lockout pending, the extra year of control in 2027 is not worth as much as in the past. See Joe Ryan…..sadly.
  20. Nashvilletwin
    Can we just call it like it is. We’re about 60 minutes from the deadline and we have done zippo of consequence to improve the team for this year or the future. For all practical purposes we’ve treaded water and are watching the value of our best assets plummet. It’s hard to believe this is the strategy.
  21. Nashvilletwin
    Hard to believe that we aren’t moving Jeffers and/or Ryan. A couple of ridiculous low probability comebacks are all that separate the Twins from being 6-10 after the AS break But that’s enough to create the delusion about playoff hopes and to abandon building the team for the future. This is what perpetually mediocre franchises do, especially those with weak ownership that can’t take the local heat from the media and fans. Once again, we are half in and half out and we will get no return from our biggest assets. With the strike pending next season, Ryan’s value will plummet. It was lunancy not to take the Bosox deal at last season’s deadline. Nothing for Ryan and Jeffers. We will see about Lopez and Buxton….
  22. Nashvilletwin
    8-8 since the All Star Break. Pretty much treading water, but showing lots of heart. Certainly entertaining. Dipping their toe in the trade market. A couple of so so pitchers for some so so prospects. Will it be enough to tip the scales? Very possibly we will not see a single core player traded: Jeffers, Ryan, Larnach, Bell, Clemens, or Buxton. After the disastrous decision not to take the Bosox offer for Ryan at last season’s deadline, one has to wonder what type of young, cheap talent we might be missing on by pursuing this half in, half out strategy. Sad prediction: when it’s all said and done over the next 18-24 months, the Twins will get absolutely zilch for Lopez, Ryan, Jeffers and Buxton before they leave the franchise.
  23. Nashvilletwin
    The Twins would be nuts not to trade Jeffers and capitalize on his peak trade value. What they might lose from his contributions to this year’s pennant charge, they might gain more back to compensate for it this season. Get a couple of players - one or both who could contribute this year and be controllable for at least a couple more.
  24. Nashvilletwin
    Fine, then he gets traded to Tampa….and Cashman can pound sand.
  25. Nashvilletwin
    Warren plus one of Hess or Lalane for Jeffers (and maybe a throw in). Otherwise it’s Tampa Bay.
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