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  1. Yesssirrr..... That is literally the purpose of the comment section... Or...perhaps better stated for you... it is my opinion that this is an opinion section for peoples opinions on other peoples opinions of sometimes of their opinions but other times just new opinions
  2. 0% chance Buxton signs and extension. If an extension were to have happened it would have only made sense from his side 1-2 years ago. 0% chance of filling all of the holes in the starting rotation AND the bullpen. Poor chance of being meaningfully competitive next year.. SO..... Trade Buxton for great prospects. Call up Celelstino and let him learn on the job. Go with the kids in the starting rotation and see what we have in 2022 before signing FA in 2023. Ditto for our internal bullpen arms. Trade Donaldson for the best salary relief/prospect package available and let Miranda join Celestino. Let Sano try to be relevant one more time (nobody will trade anything for him anyway). Trade Garver (on borrowed time as 30 y/o catcher) and let Jeffers/Ro combo learn. Trade Kepler if there is a good offer (which there won't be so he stays). Sign one of the top 5 shortstops (good defense behind young pitchers while transitioning team into contenders....Also, Lewis is waaaaay far away and may never make it) 2022 for internal scouting and development.....2023 add what you learn that you need through FA/trades after 2022 information gathering. Regular season competitive with 1st round defeat in 2023 developing into playoff competitive in 2024 with potential for deep playoff run... That is the most realistic scenario to me. 5
  3. Sano claims that he is going to be in the best shape of his life EVERY year. Alas, if only long home runs counted for extra runs.... but they of course do not. Therefore, Sano will continue to be a liability through next year until we can finally be out from under his contract
  4. I think there is a reasonable chance that Ryan is the one that ends up as a shut down RP with his two pitch mix. If he cannot be a #3 or higher starter... I would transition him to that role pronto. Krill talent hype is legit.... BUT wrists are delicate and easily reinjured. I'm concerned about his long range health prospects Jax will be a great AAAA pitcher who can fill in as needed at the MLB level until he runs out of options... not a lot more....but nice maxing out of talent on his part! Good on him. I just don't see how Lewis will have an impact at the MLB level next year (or possibly ever). During his last full season he struggled in A ball with a 4:1 K to BB ratio... And that is before missing two seasons and a major injury. He has a much bigger chance of being a bust than being a longer term asset for the Twins. I hope I'm wrong. The only way we are playoff level competitive next year is if we have two Liriano like surprises come out of the minors. Not likely, but not completely impossible. Next year is going to be a development year
  5. I'm even more bullish on Celestino.... I think he is the heir apparent to Buxton in CF after he is traded this winter. I also think he will preform admirably next year in the MLB. (again... I don't WANT Buxton to leave the Twins, but he will leave on the open market, so the FO is obligated to get some return for hime)
  6. I'm not sure what larger plan is going to involve us not losing Colina, but still having...oh I don't have the time or energy to list them all (but I will say that I am winking at you first Thorpe). The FO has something running down it's leg.... and it smells baaaad!
  7. Um... 'fire and passion' is not the the same as 'fire and brimstone....emotional and angry', but thanks for playing! Most great leaders have a healthy dose of charisma and are able to adjust their approach and intensity to match what different players (employees, soldiers etc) need (not necessarily think they want at the time) in different situations. Rocco has not demonstrated this. Again, just curious, would you put any money on Rocco ever having another MLB manager position in the future?
  8. Umm... We were considered to be equally talented at the beginning of the year...so...yeah... Tony L and the White Sox had a fantastic season and made more than the expected progression with their youngish team. Us on the other hand wildly under performed, especially when the games actually mattered. During that stretch Rocco made obvious mistakes and mismanaged his bullpen, all while not deviating from his robotic demeanor. Again, Tony L has won with multiple MLB teams over decades. Rocco will never be a MLB manager again. You are right... Tony L is not a great example...he is an AMAZINGLY FANTASTIC example
  9. Rocco seems like a nice and knowledgeable dude. I think he works hard, prepares, and takes his job seriously. BUT, he is not great at making snap decisions in the moment during games and is prone to overthinking things. He is also not a great 'leader of men.' There is no fire or passion displayed or nuanced variance in his player approach to adjust to what his team may need at a given time (In response to the inevitable "you are not in the locker room," there has been absolutely no indication from media/players that he is any different behind closed doors) Unfortunately those are important traits for a successful manager. He was exposed by the tragic loss of Bell and the departure of his initial hitting coach. I'll give you all a thought experiment... when Rocco is eventually fired (and he will be).... do you think he will ever have another MLB manager job? If the answer is 'no' then he probably isn't the best choice for us now. What Tony L did with Chicago this year is no accident. A good manager shows up in results. I think Rocco would be fantastic as a bench coach or leading an analytics department, just not as an MLB manager
  10. Really an amazing 'get' for half a season of Cruz. Kudos to the FO on that trade! (But I do think Ryan will find that 70% will be too much fastball usage in the old MLB....he'll have to mix things up a little more against the best in the world)
  11. I actually have faith in Dobnak's long term viability as a 4/5 and feel comfortable penciling him into the starting rotation next year. I think his poor performance was somewhat related to injuries (immediately ducking to avoid incoming)
  12. Um... It would be business malpractice for Buxton's agent (and himself) to say anything other than he 'wants' to return. You NEVER purposefully remove a potential bidder for your services just in case they drive up the price from somewhere else where you want to go. You cannot take what someone tells you at face value... almost anywhere (insert ANY cable news show here). Remember, even your parents told you Santa Claus was real There were A LOT of people on this site pontificating about how Berrios could/would be signed to an extension by the Twins... so I'm not sure that it is very fair for you to tell them that they were really not doing much thinking
  13. This needs to be repeated every thread with the hopes that Rocco will eventually pull his head out of his fourth point of contact
  14. All three points are true... He has less than 1% chance of playing for the Twins in 2023. Tag this post for posterity if you'd like Again, this doesn't make me happy but that doesn't change the reality. Incidentally, I also said early and often that Berrios was never signing FA contract with us either (and therefore needed to be traded) Wasn't happy about that either, but our level of happiness with a scenario unfortunately does not change reality
  15. I pains be to see the ongoing denial surrounding Buck. Contrary to what is put out there in the media...Buck does not want to and will not sign long term with the Twins unless they go well past market value (and they will not). He is not happy with: 1. The messing with his service time 2. The mixed messages and lack of a cohesive strategy surrounding developing his hitting within the organization 3. Most recently the Twins petty leaking of their 'offers' to save face. In addition, he does not want to or need to sign a hugely incentive based contract which shifts risk away from the team onto the player. A team will give him lots of guaranteed money on the open market because he does indeed have the potential to be a transformational player. He is not an older reclamation project who needs to sign an incentive based contract. He has MUCH more leverage that that! I don't want to lose him at all and will be profoundly disappointed, BUT we will lose him so we need to focus on getting maximum return.
  16. If we go into next year with Ober tagged as our #2..... Yikes! Look out below. He could end up exceeding all expectations and becoming truly dominant, but that is a hope and cannot be a plan
  17. No. For a deep playoff run, not even close. Unfortunately we should be building for most likely 2024 for the window to crack back open. Goal should be to debut a number of promising pitchers next year, build confidence and success in 2023, and be ready to compete for playoff type success 2024. That is if most things go right. Not a fun take, but very realistic.
  18. This! Please take a look back at his SO/BB ratio and his OPS from his last full season playing (in A mind you). Since then, he has not played in 2 years (AFL does not take precendence over a full season as mentioned previously on this thread). He is not in my top five and is actually behind Miranda as well so make that outside my top 6. His position could change based on performance like all the prospects, but with our current data there is no way he is the #1 prospect of the organization. I sincerely hope he returns to the #1 ranking in the future, but he's absolutely not that now.
  19. Burrows, Barnes, Rooker, Sano..... I've seen enough of all of them to know that they are not a part of any successful Twins future....
  20. FO deserves a fair amount of credit: 1. Great return and perfect trade timing for Berrios. He was not coming back to us. 2. Good return for Cruz... exceeded expectations 3. They are damn magicians for getting anything in return for Robles and Happ (Happ?!? I'm mean whaaaat?!) Buuuuuuuuut, Only excuse for not trading Pineda is if the only return offered was a B or C prospect that had to be added the 40 man at the end of the season (we already have a glut there). I have a hard time believing that was the case. Stop with the leader/mentor nonsense. We could sign him for next year during the off season if he is that great of a mentor. Stop with the 'staying respectable for the rest of the season'... for what... to get a worse draft pick?! Huge miss on that one
  21. Wow.....just two horrible teams having a pillow fight... Quick try to trade Sano at peak value!!!!
  22. Don't distract yourselves with incentives. Buxton and his agent will be focusing on guaranteed dollars for his one chance at a FA contract in his prime. I would looooooove to sign Buxton to an incentive laden contract just like I'd love to only buy insurance only after I got sick or had an accident. Buxton and his agent already took the risk of waiting this long for FA, why on earth would they suddenly give that leverage away by taking an incentive laden extension and give up on FA? The Twins know this and knew he would never accept their 'offer' I desperately want to keep Buck, it just isn't going to happen. I'm simply trying to infuse a does of reality and expectation management to the situation
  23. We don't know what the counter offer was.... I suspect they just tossed something back ludicrously high to highlight how ridiculous the Twins offer was. Anyhoo, I promise you that Buxton will not be signing an extension with the Twins and it is OK if the Twins think the risk>reward.... I just ask that they be honest with it instead of face saving low ball offers.
  24. Buxton WILL get multiple offers for guaranteed money > 100 million on the open market. Again, it is not about if you think he SHOULD get those offers... He WILL get them. I have no problem with the Twins FO/ownership determining that the risk/reward is unacceptable (after all... they should be experts in such things) Just spare me the nonsense that 70-80 million guaranteed over 7 years is a serious market value offer. If that your 'offer' just be honest with the fan base and tell them you don't think the risk is worth the potential reward!
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