Deep Breath, an honest conversation now that the dust has settled. Did we get anything good back?

[DocBauer]

I knew the team needed a re-set. But I NEVER expected anything close to what happened over the last 48 hours. And I have ZERO idea...as do any of us I'd wager...as to whether this TRADE BLITZ was the Pohlad's just trying to save $, or alter debt/payroll for a potential buyer, or if everyone suddenly went insane all at once.

There's honestly a couple moves made that made sense to me. And more than a couple that left me scratching my head, or made me angry.

But I'm HOPING as confused, frustrated, and PO'd as some of us might be, that we might actually be able to take a step back, examine the moves made, and have an open dialog about hits and misses.

Of course, I'll go first:

1] I hink the team actually got good value back for Duran. Fair value. But I think they should have gotten more. I wonder, if Abel and Tait were swapped, and Tait was at AA or AAA and Abel was the A prospect, would perceptions change? Tait is a YOUNG catcher prospect with a strong arm and a potentially BIG LH BAT. But he's at least 2-3 yrs away. But Abel has been a consistent top 100 prospect who is ML ready and the Twins pitching staff might just need to tweak a couple of things to make him a successful SP. While it's not what we want, his floor might be a 100mph pen arm.

2] We got a high character, smart young catcher with potential for Paddack in Jimenez. But if they weren't looking to save a couple $M by throwing Dobnak in, might we have gotten a better return? I love getting a young, talented catcher, but I think a veteran SP might have been worth more without the $ issue thrown in. Or am I wrong? Maybe that's what Paddack was worth?

3] Not crazy about a corner LH OF for Bader who HITS, but has limited power, no speed, and hits a lot of ground balls. But if he learns to elevate the ball more? MIGHT have something there.

4] I would have rather kept Stewart and his powerful arm and bet on his last surgery making him available for the next couple of seasons. Considering the trade value of other pen arms, I'm really perplexed that the Twins moved him for Outman. He was a ROY candidate a couple of years ago and hasn't done much yet. The Twins think they can "fix" him to be at least a 4th OF? I think I would have kept Stewart and banked on him helping the pen for the next couple of years.

5] Again, there were enough RP bringing back decent returns I was really disappointed Coulombe didn't bring back more than a low level arm. The Matz trade was better. 

6] The Castro trade did bring back a decent return, IMO. Gallagher has some steam and potential at AA. The 2nd arm, Armstrong, seems to be a flier type.

7] Frankly, I was confused and disappointed the Twins traded Jax after already moving Duran, Stewart, and Coulombe. At least he provided stability for 2026. And despite initial demands, they got ONE player back? To be fair, Bradley was a top prospect in the Rays system, and they do know something about pitching. He's got solid MILB numbers and is only 24yo despite spending most of the last 3yrs at the ML level. Is he a Ryan needing tweaks? Or is he ready to move to the pen to the pen and maybe be the next Jax?

8] Here is where I am not only confused, but downright PO'd! Why in the hell do you trade Varland, a young, cost controlled, high power arm that just might be your setup man or potential closer for a couple of prospects??!! Roden is a 25yo 1B/OF bat with a solid 4yr career in MILB. But he's not exactly a power plant! I was hoping the trade deadline MIGHT bring in a 1B with some potential that was blocked by someone else. But a mediocre hitter and a 22yo LH arm with 18 IP at AA and solid numbers just doesn't make sense to me for a proven arm who has been outstanding since moving to the pen.

9] Despite those who aren't fans, I think the Twins are a worse team without Correa and his still solid defense, and leadership. The cost savings only helps if the new owners will use that savings to invest in the payroll. But that's a different discussion for a different day.

CONCLUSION:

The Varland deal should have NEVER taken place!

They got less for Coulombe and Stewart than they should have.

The Castro deal wasn't bad.

While years away, they did add a couple interesting catcher prospects, one who is already at A+ at 18yo and is already in the top 60 global prospect rankings, FWIW.

They DID add a couple somewhat interesting arms to the system, though most are fliers. And they added an OF that MIGHT turn it around and return to his previous ROY candidacy. 

Prospects are nice. Having more of them in the collective is nice. Adding a couple catching prospects with potential is nice. But for NOW, and the immediate future, all they really accomplished was adding payroll room...IF it's spent...and a handful of arms that might help soon.

I don't mean to dismiss Abel and Bradley. As of today, when healthy, the Twins rotation options and depth include Lopez, Ryan, Ober, SWR, Matthews, Festa, Abel, Bradley, Morris, Lewis, and also Culpepper,  and Raya. We might throw MaCleod and Klein in that group as well, not even including the potential of Prielipp. 

As of today, FA speculation for the offseason withstanding, the Twins have NO bullpen. Undoubtedly, they will make a couple adds to the pen via FA or possibly trades. But I wonder if they won't follow some old school way of approaching things and take a few of those arms and move them to the pen for 2026. They're going to have to if they want to compete even a little.

The holes in the lineup are a different story for a different day as they didn't do anything to address that. 

Personally, I don't hate all they did. Only time will tell who turns out. But I think they sold low on a couple of guys for sure.

Just not that impressed overall.

But this an OP to just discuss the returns, and not how much you hate the owners.

[DJL44]

They added catching and pitching, especially lefthanded pitching. Both of those were desperate needs for the Twins organization.

They saved a lot of money. Adding it up I get 

$75M (Correa)

$4.7M (Paddack and Dobnak)

$3M (Bader)

$2.1M (Castro)

$1.3M (Duran)

$1M (Coulombe)

$0.8 (Jax)

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Total is $88M; $13M is avoided spending from this season.

[IndianaTwin]

Good opening take.

I don’t have a good opening read at being able to examine the trades on a case-by-case basis as you have, but I appreciate your encouragement to take a step back and get a sense of where things are in the big picture. 

My thought is similar in terms of starting pitching. If they choose to keep the Lopez/Ryan/Ober triumvirate, that’s a LOT of potential to pull the remaining two from and still leave a lot of No. 6-8 options.

Bullpen mostly starts from scratch, but I wonder if there will be some promotions to start testing the waters. Along with some of the guys in your starting pitcher list, there’s also Adams, et al. Oh, and Sands for sure. Maybe Topa as he’s further removed from injury.

Offensively — Buxton, Jeffers, Wallner, Larnach, Lewis, Lee is a start. Keaschall looked great. Seems like Outman and Roden will get opportunities to see if they stick, ERod. Some guy named Jenkins.

Prospects — Six guys in MLB.com’s Top 100 (some already mentioned).

 

I’m feeling shell-shocked and am with you on wondering “why” on guys like Varland. And yeah, a lot depends on the willingness to spend in the winter.

But it’s not a bare cupboard. There’s potential signing flexibility when the only guys under contract for next year are Lopez and Buxton and only Ryan and Ober become expensive in arbitration. Or maybe Jeffers, depending on your definition of expensive.

Beyond that, it’s Lewis, Larnach, Sands and Tonkin in arbitration, none of whom will go up more than a couple million.

And some portion of Correa’s salary. We’ll wait to see the details, but in an ideal world, a major chunk of the $33M they are covering will be paid this year, leaving just a bit for future years. 

[jaimedude]

The Twins practically traded Target Field sections 108, 124, and the WIN in their name and would have traded TC bear if it saved the owners payroll money. Any major league team  roster that contains Mickey Gasper, Deshawn Kiersey jr., Michael Tonkin, Noah Davis,  Kody Funderburk, Justin Topa, isn't serious about winning Baseball games. I practically forgot Topa and Vasquez are still here. This franchise not only demoralized the fan base they have set competitive baseball back years. Why would any free agent or player with team control want to sign an extension? If the challenge was to enter the draft lottery the front office said challenge accepted. Byron Buxton isn't gonna want to come back to a team that had it's owner and FO drop a nuclear bomb on the clubhouse. Expect blowouts like 13 to 1 frequently and often. This team would lose some  games to the Saints. 

[FlyingFinn]

What is our deal with LF hitting mostly corner outfielders - Larnach, Wallner, Roden, Outman, Rodriguez, Jenkins, Kiersey. Why did we trade for Roden and Outman? The Twins aren't going to win next year, want cheap guys, and look to the future so why wouldn't it be Rodriguez, Jenkins and Wallner with Buxton. Then, you try re-trade Outman and Roden. Those trades made no sense along with getting rid of Varland.

[jaimedude]

The Pohlads did exactly to the fan base of the Twins as Red MCCombs did to the Vikings in trading off Randy Moss except McCombs did as an immature parting  shot at Minnesota for not building the Vikings a stadium under Red's ownership. What is the Pohlads and specifically  Joe Pohlads excuse for nuking the franchise? Twins fans and Minnesotans built them a stadium,  One the Twins never have really paid their portion of the stadium debt on? Twins fans have never demanded  zealous spending like the Yankees, or Mets or Giants or Red Sox, just ocassionally trying to win a championship. The foundation wasnt just imploded the building  was totally  dropped,  they left rubble today.  We a lot of us  have supported the team buying tix or merchandise.  We are not the ones that made  poop decisions on  the broadcast contracts or partnerships and radio sponsorship deals. The Twins sign a sponsorship with Securian then they Nuke the roster. I mean they didn't just flip a bird to the fans, they flipped a bird to sponsorships, advertisers, the people they sold the entertainment product too. I mean who that owns a business would trust and want to build a relationship with this type of ownership group. They are poor business partners and sold the sponsors a beater car.  I would be livid if I were Securian financial. I know money talks but future free agents and people with worth are not gonna wanna sign here. Falvey and Joe did a lot of damage today. They may have torpedoed selling even. It is hard to even see a vision of what they are trying to become. The team on the field now is slow, and not very athletic or exciting. Even with blowing it up there is a lot of complacency on accepting well were small market so that means we cannot simply compete with the big dogs.  Good luck selling advertising or making rights feature deals when you pull a fast one. A lot of teams gotta better today at the Twins expense. 

[Jacksson]

Grade = F  

Too many of these trades should never have taken place based on the feeble return that was received.

[CRF]

This was a salary/contract dump...plain and simple. True, this team wasn't going anywhere, but this historically bad day set this franchise back years. It was a disaster.  

[bunsen82]

Trading Varland and Stewart is not a salary dump. You are saving nothing. Jax is beyond cheap, so the question becomes why.  Why do you trade for an Outman? You may like him but in the end he doesn’t matter.  
 

You trade those players if you want to lose and lose a lot. We got some decent pieces, but ultimate the trade return we got is not the prize, This reminds me of The Process with the 76ers and Houston Astros in the 2000’s. You lose big to win big in the draft. With 2026 being considered a very good draft year this is what they are cashing in on.  The cynical part of me says a lot of this was agreed to by the owners, and a deal was cut to get the Pohlads out and new ownership in. Just watch us get the #1 pick in the lottery.  The deal makes sense when we hear it was the Pohlads who were leading the Correa trade. 
 

So what do I like. I really like Abel, he has improved his control a ton this year and the numbers show it. He is a #2 or #3 pitcher in my opinion.  Gallagher has had a really good year in the minors. Tait is very interesting, they say the bat skills are elite, but I still have concerns they will fall apart as he rises in the system. If he pans out it drastically improves the chances of the Twins winning in the future. Finding a bat first catcher when a lot of the defensive metrics of a catcher will be limited in the future is a gamechanger.  I also like Jimenez but he is a bit away. Rojas is a good piece as well.  We took a flyer on the pitcher from Texas. 
 

Outman??? Get the F out of here. He was likely being DFA’d by the end of the year. He has AAAA player written all over him that flashed once in 2023.  We are taking beaten down assets in Bradley and Alan Roden.  My guess is bothe those players pan out to what degree I don’t know.  
 

You can rebuild a bullpen cheap. it just takes time and patience, or spending a little money.  So ultimately today hurts a lot, but the organization will be better off for it in the long haul for the players traded for, the draft, and not having Correa on the books.  Even still we did Varland dirty.  I do hope karma is real.

[Riverbrian]

I'm going to put a helmet on and say this:

The smoke hasn't cleared yet but it's not as bad as I feared. 

Don't get me wrong... the bullpen was absolutely devastated but... Starting pitching was improved and offensively... it wasn't like the numbers produced by those dealt away are impossible to replace. 

Yeah... I know the bullpen is... well... gone... the rest could be rebuilt rather quickly. 

[AlwaysinModeration]

I don’t know how to analyze the return on these trades; the general consensus it seems like they could have gotten better prospects for at least some of the individual trades.  But for me, it all seems haphazard, and could have been executed more strategically.  If they knew Wednesday they were going to trade the best five relievers, I think they could have packaged players together to get more than they got.  For example, could they have traded Varland and Castro together for a couple of better prospects?  Could Duran and Jax together have netted Painter?  (But actually, maybe Abel, Tait and Bradley together is actually a good return for Duran and Jax, and better than getting just Painter?)  

Anyway, doesn’t feel like they had a clear direction with these moves, with clarity on what they were trying to get back, or how to maximize what they got back.

 

[FlyingFinn]

Why not get Painter from the Phillies? Offer Duran and Bader. Not enough, add Jax. Do what it takes to get quality rather than quantity.

[Chris Hove]

Wow, what a deadline! Do we have any Twins fans left???? I had to wait to comment because of all the moves and taking it all in. Some trades were needed, and some were just stupid. After all the trades, Bradley has potential, but not a high-end starter. Tait should be good and is a very exciting player. Gallagher has been great as well, but I want to see him develop another pitch and get more strikeouts. Other than that, there's not much there. IMO

Going forward, we have a game today. Is anyone still following along? Who do you want to see promoted? Who do you not want to see promoted? There will be a slew of moves here soon, and we have to get through this together. Come on, TD members, power through it.

Edited August 1, 2025 by Chris Hove

[bunsen82]

2 hours ago, FlyingFinn said:

Why not get Painter from the Phillies? Offer Duran and Bader. Not enough, add Jax. Do what it takes to get quality rather than quantity.

Everything matched up with the mlb trade value calculator.  Painter would have costed Jax and Duran.  Phillies had said they were not trading Painter.  You can't make them add Painter to the deal.   I said it before,  i really do not see much difference between Abel and Painter.  Thats my personal opinion.  Painter has better control,  otherwise they are pretty similar.  

[bunsen82]

2 hours ago, Chris Hove said:

Wow, what a deadline! Do we have any Twins fans left???? I had to wait to comment because of all the moves and taking it all in. Some trades were needed, and some were just stupid. After all the trades, Bradley has potential, but not a high-end starter. Tait should be good and is a very exciting player. Gallagher has been great as well, but I want to see him develop another pitch and get more strikeouts. Other than that, there's not much there. IMO

Going forward, we have a game today. Is anyone still following along? Who do you want to see promoted? Who do you not want to see promoted? There will be a slew of moves here soon, and we have to get through this together. Come on, TD members, power through it.

My son he still wanted to go to the Royals game in August where he could get the Twins backback LOL.  I told him this probably isn't the year you want to be wearing a Twins backpack.  I'm sure I could get great seats for cheap.  Honestly there is probably some things I would go to watch, I do want to to see how big of a sh it show our bullpen is and whether we actually can find some useable pieces in the last 2 months.  To me it looks like we may let Ryan go a few more starts,  but the SP will consist of  the following - Bradley, Matthews, Abel, Festa and SWR.    

The lineup will be  Jeffers -C, Lewis 3rd,  Lee SS, Keaschall 2nd,  ???  1st Base (Miranda Julien, Roden, Sabato??), OF - does Buxton play - my guess is very little.  CF - Outman,  RF -Wallner, McCusker LF - Martin, Larnach

If Buxton plays,  I actually think the lineup is better than what we have been putting out there.  Removing Correa and France are not losses.  Keaschall in his initial cup of coffee looked good.  I have to assume Outman is most likely this teams version of Jake Cave.  

Assuming we don't trade much of positional players -  next year we could be looking at 

3rd Lewis   SS Culpepper   2nd Keaschall  1st Roden???   Utility Lee  Bat - Julien

CF - Buxton   LF and RF - pick from Larnach Wallner, Martin, Gonzalez, McCusker Roden or maybe push Jenkins   - Buxton insurance - Outman

Thats not a bad lineup at all especially if Lewis can turn it around and Lee settles in with the bat.   Culpepper looks legit right now.  

[TaterTot]

3 minutes ago, bunsen82 said:

 

3rd Lewis   SS Culpepper   2nd Keaschall  1st Roden???   Utility Lee  Bat - Julien

 

 

Maybe they could try keascall at first and have Lee and culpepper up the middle. Keaschall does not at all fill the first base profile, but then again, the twins don’t have a clear cut first basemen.

[bunsen82]

5 minutes ago, TaterTot said:

Maybe they could try keascall at first and have Lee and culpepper up the middle. Keaschall does not at all fill the first base profile, but then again, the twins don’t have a clear cut first basemen.

The only internal 1st base candidate right now is Sabato.  Technically you could try McCusker.  That would be a large man at 1st.  

[AceBee]

10 hours ago, FlyingFinn said:

What is our deal with LF hitting mostly corner outfielders - Larnach, Wallner, Roden, Outman, Rodriguez, Jenkins, Kiersey. Why did we trade for Roden and Outman? The Twins aren't going to win next year, want cheap guys, and look to the future so why wouldn't it be Rodriguez, Jenkins and Wallner with Buxton. Then, you try re-trade Outman and Roden. Those trades made no sense along with getting rid of Varland.

Well..for all the what ifs - we traded right handed MLB ready bat in Rooker away with a logjam of LH OFs kept on the roster ! Shipping Kiriloff away probably would have been better in the hindsight

[Brock Beauchamp]

The Duran trade was fine. I didn't love it, but it's fine.

The rest is really a rollercoaster. I don't understand the Jax trade. I strongly dislike the Stewart trade.

[P Meyer]

5 hours ago, Riverbrian said:

I'm going to put a helmet on and say this:

The smoke hasn't cleared yet but it's not as bad as I feared. 

Don't get me wrong... the bullpen was absolutely devastated but... Starting pitching was improved and offensively... it wasn't like the numbers produced by those dealt away are impossible to replace. 

Yeah... I know the bullpen is... well... gone... the rest could be rebuilt rather quickly. 

Bullpen got wrecked. 

Defense got worse. 

We didn't trade any hitting that wasn't mid (this year) and not on an expiring.

I am more of a TBD when it comes to the starting pitching but it could be. 

 

If we see some combination of Lopez, Ryan, and/or Ober dealt in the offseason, it makes a lot more sense.

[2wins87]

I think I'm in a similar place to many.  Many deals were fine, fair value; nothing stands out as a truly "blown away" return; and overall it should have been better.

I have a few thoughts on how the process was bad.  1) I think when they were shopping as many guys as they were, teams caught on to that, realized that the Twins were actually quite motivated to sell despite their protestations that they needed to be blown away, and held back on offering too many sweeteners.  2) How could the front office possibly have the manpower to talk with every team about every potential deal, vet all of the potential prospects that they could have gotten, and maximize the value in each deal across all 9 deals they made?  They clearly couldn't, so they ended up more just accepting the deals once they reached the threshold they found acceptable.  3)  I think they lessened the overall value by focusing on certain guys who are ready to be a part of next years team, and I guess I just fundamentally disagree that the guys that are ready to be a part of the team next year are going to provide much above just being a part of the team.

After a little cooling off I think I like many of the returns a bit better than I originally did, but I still think going so big with the selling ultimately set an impossible task that will still make deadline an infamous event for years to come.  I think that if they do end up competitive next year, it will be mostly due to stronger performances from the guys that they already have--Lewis, Wallner, Lee, Ober, Matthews or Festa, maybe with big contributions from Jenkins and/or Culpepper too.  If that does happen and the one thing holding them back is a ****** bullpen, that will be incredibly annoying.

Anyway, guys I like more than I initially thought:

1) Kendry Rojas - I think he compares favorably in many ways to Prielipp, who has been ranked by many as the best pitching prospect.  I'm a little less high on Prielipp due to his reliever risk, which is also real for Rojas, and while Prielipp's stuff still grades out better, I wonder how much that matters with the demonstrated effectiveness of Rojas's stuff.  Considering age, performance, and relative durability I think I'll put Rojas ahead of Prielipp, and then there is a debate on how much we should dream on Hill and Soto vs Rojas.  And for Roden, despite the rough start, I don't see any reason he shouldn't at least be able to basically approximate Trevor Larnach while being paid the minimum, so they can trade Larnach for whatever the can get and in theory invest in the bullpen or something.  Makes the Varland trade sting a bit less, but still ill-advised to me.

2) What the Cubs did with Ryan Gallagher is very reminiscent of what the Twins have done with guys like Zebby Matthews.  Good frame, good control, add a few MPH of velocity.  He probably needs to continue to add velocity and otherwise improve his pitches to really be a valuable pitcher in the majors, but the Twins have been able to do that and Gallagher is already trending in the right direction.  Again, comparing to Twins prospects, he could be grouped with guys like Morris and CJ Culpepper, easily slotting ahead if he continues to perform well.  Solid return for a rental.

3) Hendry Mendez - I think sub-optimal launch angle is generally less of a problem than an overall lack of exit velocity.  Given his age and performance, he just looks like a very solid hitter.  Again, solid return for a rental.

Guys I still don't get:

1) Outman - He just strikes out a lot.  There are guys that can make it work, but the list of guys that couldn't is much longer.  It looks like he was a bit lucky in 2022/2023, after which the league adjusted, he regressed, and there are no signs that he's any closer to figuring things out.

2) Bradley - For all the talk about his great potential, his stuff+ has been completely average this year.  Combined with terrible location, his pitching+ is only 91, which puts him 104th out of 113 pitchers with 80+ IP.  The PitchingBot numbers, for a second opinion, are even worse.  So the "great stuff that he just needs to harness" actually seems to have disappeared.  He's much more of a project than a return right now.

[Twins_Fan_in_NJ]

Yesterday was pretty bleak for the Twins franchise. Now that the dust has settled we see the same thing. A team that has no intention of winning or fielding a contending team. Unless a sale is imminent, you can say goodbye to 2026...and maybe 2027.

[Obsvr]

This might be an unpopular opinion but i'm fine with all of it.  I'm guessing that regarding Varland, who they know way better than we do, that there was some kind of issue.  With Jax...he's in his 30's and thats when guys start breaking down.  I think they know that with new ownership coming in that they have a strong minor league system and this creates even more depth. 

I HIGHLY doubt a new ownership group is going to come in and be cheap...at least not initially.  New owners are more likely to come in and spend a bunch of money to bring in high end talent...which when combined with whats coming from the farm (particularly pitching) and you have a recipe for sustained success.

I'm not that worried about all this.  It might sting the rest of this year and next year, but I'm happy to see what should be a quick rebuild. 

Hope they don't win a game the rest of the year and hit it in the draft lotto.

[The Great Hambino]

2 hours ago, Brock Beauchamp said:

The Duran trade was fine. I didn't love it, but it's fine.

The rest is really a rollercoaster. I don't understand the Jax trade. I strongly dislike the Stewart trade.

When the Duran trade was announced, I was a little underwhelmed by the return.

It turned out to be my favorite trade they made.  That's disconcerting

[Chris Hove]

3 hours ago, bunsen82 said:

The only internal 1st base candidate right now is Sabato.  Technically you could try McCusker.  That would be a large man at 1st.  

I have been waiting for Sabato to be called up. I also wrote in mid-May that they needed to trade France. Gasper and Keaschall could be options but i'm lobbying for Sabato.

[Blyleven2011]

3 hours ago, Brock Beauchamp said:

The Duran trade was fine. I didn't love it, but it's fine.

The rest is really a rollercoaster. I don't understand the Jax trade. I strongly dislike the Stewart trade.

Baseball is all messed up , they ( mlb ) tried to fix tanking but our FO found away around it  ...

Falvey should have resigned before allowing something like this to happen  , he'll never get another position in baseball elsewhere as high as he is with the twins  ...

The varland trade makes me scratch my head in wonder ...

I figured Duran and Stewart would be traded for players to tweak our offense immediately  , players with expiring contracts was a no brainer  ...

Disappointed is all I can say ...

Im going to continue watching what they plan to be a roster going forward ,  I probably won't be following twins daily  or at least I'm not going to respond with posts , still can use the thumbs up or the thumbs down  though ....

Pohlads boys are the worst owners , the FO and manager,  coaches are the worst management the twins have ever had ...

Calvin was a prince compared to them  , he might not of paid the players their worth but he did give the fans a consistent team , win or lose it was more exciting with Calvin's teams than we have seen since 2021 ...

 

[Blyleven2011]

4 hours ago, Twins_Fan_in_NJ said:

Yesterday was pretty bleak for the Twins franchise. Now that the dust has settled we see the same thing. A team that has no intention of winning or fielding a contending team. Unless a sale is imminent, you can say goodbye to 2026...and maybe 2027.

And more , I'll say it again and again  , this is not the right front office or manager and coaches , they will never win for us , yes it's on the owners to , but given the salary you have been given you spend wisely and find a way to win , every year they construct a team to win enough just to draw the crowds , since 2020 every spring has been the same going forward with just enough talent to draw the fans to target field ,..

I haven't felt comfortable that the twins are a  contending team out of spring training for awhile ...

Boy I could go on and on but it's senseless anymore  , this might be my last post for awhile , I'll continue watching and laughing at the front office on how they have butchered this franchise up ...

It was fun on twins daily and appreciate your support  , until there are new owners , FO and manager I'm through  ...

We are definitely going to see alot of ex twins in the playoffs and world series  ...

[Little Piranhas]

The Twins sell off (I don’t consider them trades) yesterday was reminiscent of Oakland A’s owner Charlie Finley trying to sell off Joe Rudi, Rollie Fingers and Vida Blue in 1976.

It’s just too bad there isn’t a Bowie Kuhn around to void them in the spirit of not being in “the best interests of baseball”.

[TheLeviathan]

TBD is the unsexy, yet correct answer.

[jorgenswest]

Deep breath and trying to be optimistic

• Bradley hasn’t been tried in relief. Maybe he will follow the path of Varland and Jax. 
• Rojas has really strong strikeout and walk rates in the minors and is a lefty.
• Outman has very strong exit velocities that are not a match for his .105 and .208  BABiPs in the last two seasons. He is a solid outfielder even in center field.
• Abel has the arm talent to be a playoff caliber starter or maybe a high quality late inning reliever.
• Mendez at 21 in AA has some really good bat to ball skills
• Gallagher in AA at 22 adds another good arm to the system
• Roden has always hit well in the minors
• Tait will stick at catcher. His caught stealing number are fine. He is 18 and in high A with a good bat. He will be the long term solution at catcher.
• Horn has a lot of left handed arm talent as he works back from Tommy John.
• Jimenez can be that #2 defense first catcher behind Tiat long term.
• Villoria at 16 was a recent international signing. He was third I. Their list of signing bonus money.
• The new owners have an opportunity to take that savings on the Correa contract and invest in a better bat than Correa. It could be through free agency but the best road is in trade this off season from the prospect capital. Maybe it is a trade for and extend of bat nearing the end of their control.