Battle ur tail off

Wouldn't doubt it. The lies have always been a large part of this current ownership group. They are shifty devils, no reason to trust anything they say.

Here is the deal. If the Twins trade him, people around here aren't going to be happy with the return. He likely nets you a teams 5-10 ranked prospect, one other in the 20-30ish range and possibly a lottery ticket or salary dump. He's worth more to stay than he is to go.

Agree, but then I fire Falvey and let someone else totally rebuild this thing...

Then the Mets don't need to get him. Twins have bent over for many years giving up good young players for garbage prospects. I am all for trading guys away, but bring back real talent. I would rather see a 1 for 1 to get the best there is, than trading for a bunch of mid-tier guys. It should be this way in free agency also. Don't fill in with oodles of washups or never was players, Add studs, or don't add them at all and use your system. Not sure why the Twins never try to operate this way. They have tried everything else.

Sad, but I think we all know this. Twins are in for some mid-late 90s baseball. Back down to roughly zero fans and nothing to look forward to for the better part of another decade...

I doubt it. You don't build or develop guys by running analytics constantly and pigeonholing them into what you think is best. Twins needed a guy that can teach baseball. Teach fundamentals and the mental part of the game. We don't need another IPAD watcher or spreadsheet pusher. These guys are great when you have a team full of already developed players. But when we are looking at a roster with a bunch of prospects and "babies" in terms of their baseball development. You need a manager that knows how to teach, not just plug and play according to some formula they have.

What needs to change is our player development process. Who has been in charge of developing Lewis, Lee, Miranda, Julien, Wallner, Martin, etc? NONE of them have hit as a sure-fire viable starting caliber or better MLB player. This is unacceptable. Either they weren't good enough to draft or trade for, or they haven't been developed like they should have been. To have your top 10-ish prospects of the last 5-6 years not show anyone that's anything is what killed this franchise. Until the team takes bat to ball contact seriously and fundamentals, the results will continue to be the same. And yes, the next Manager, if he is basically another yes man/IPAD watcher is in a no win situation. No manager can actually manage with everything laid out in front of him/micromanaged every single game.

He's a lying sleazy prick. Just tell the truth for once. This kind of stuff is what makes people mad.

Amazing they can be so tone deaf isn't it? The last few years have really shown how to ruin a fanbase. Like literally there may be a book written on this someday. Carl sucked, but at least he kept his mouth shut. This new generation of Pohlads is terrible.

Terrible news but not surprising. Do you really think the Pohlads are going to dump this cash cow, especially when their other business entities are struggling? This is basically just someone giving them a loan on the bad debt they have placed from other parts of Pohlads Inc onto the Twins. Expect the next few years to be a total teardown player roster wise. My guess though, is that Falvey and Rocco work for CHEAP, so they will be retained. Welcome back to 1993-2000. That is what we are in for. Too bad with Target field and that run they had a few years ago, but the Twins are over with and most likely back to being a sports afterthought in this state once again.

A hammer 8th inning guy is worth more than a guy with a ceiling of #4 starter. If that is all this guys is worth then it's really not very smart. Twins have always done this. Quantity instead of quality. It has never worked for them. Don't trade controllable pieces or sign #4 and 5 starters. Draft and develop them, or bring them in with trades for expiring contracts.

That is the problem, you can't do that with Rocco and Falvey in charge. They don't believe in this kind of ball.

Twins aren't worth much as a franchise as compared to some others in my opinion. After the last 2 years they are worth even less. Their owner has killed any fan interest with the way he talks, acts and by not having them accessible on TV. Selling these guys off doesn't make them any more attractive to a buyer IMO. My thoughts are this was done in order to reduce expenses for the Pohlads and nothing else. They have done a really terrible job these last 2 years. I don't know if I've seen someone run a business into the ground so fast. It is literally like it was done on purpose. Crazy...

Duran, Jax, Varland. None of these guys should have been traded unless the return was fantastic. Why? They are CHEAP and under control!! Correa? I'm fine moving him but getting zero back needed to be they take everything but like 5 mil. Twins got fleeced on this one certainly. No other team takes returns for guys like this on star players and also pays over a third of their remaining contract. The expiring contract guys? Yes, fine move them for whatever you can get. Still seems like the return though was little to nothing for these guys either.

F. Flat out Falvey didn't put much effort into this. This was a give away. Flat out sell off. Trading controllable pieces for low end prospects. No other team lets go guys like that unless they get a return with studly players. Garbage, terrible, embarrassing. Not only did they alienate all of their fans, they also put out a bat signal to the rest of the league that they can be taken to the woodshed on all trades, to future Free Agents, there is no reason to ever sign here. The ONLY good that can come of this is that the team is sold, and Falvey and Rocco are immediately canned. This would be the only acceptable outcome in my eyes.