Seth Stohs Site Manager Posted July 28, 2018 Posted July 28, 2018 If you were wondering why Ryan Pressly was not used in the 10th inning of Friday night's loss to the Red Sox, well, there was a good reason. Moments after the game, Ken Rosenthal reported that Pressly was traded to the Houston Astros.Per multiple reports, the Twins will receive RHP Jorge Alcala and CF Gilberto Celestino. Per MLB Pipeline, Alcala is (was?) the Astros #10 prospect while Celestino ranked #15. Jorge Alcala will turn 23 tomorrow. The Dominican native has 82 strikeouts in 79 1/3 innings for the Astros High A and AA affilaites. He is the #8 Astros prospect per Baseball America. Some reports indicate he is another hard-thrower who can hit 100 mph. Celestino is 19, also from the Dominican. He has played in the short-season New York/Penn League and played in three games at AA earlier this year. He has hit a combined .299 with eight doubles and four homers. Also 14 steals in 36 games. Ryan Pressly was said to be the Twins player that almost all contending teams were asking about. His velocity and spin rate made him, along with having one more year of arbitration, made him intriguing to a lot of teams. The former Twins Rule 5 pick has really made strides in 2018 after looking the part and showing glimpses over his years with the Twins. Pressly is a Texas native, so he's kind of heading home and will fit into an already strong Astros bullpen. Click here to view the article glunn and nicksaviking 2
Vanimal46 Old-Timey Member Posted July 28, 2018 Posted July 28, 2018 I'm scared to find out what the return is... Blake, adorduan and d-mac 3
tvagle Verified Member Posted July 28, 2018 Posted July 28, 2018 So anyone want to speculate how valuable spin rate is? How high on the prospect list does it have to be to satisfy the Belisle Bomb he just gave up? savvyspy 1
Cap'n Piranha Verified Member Posted July 28, 2018 Posted July 28, 2018 If we are selling, and thereby giving up on the season, there’s definitely not point to let Belisle have a kid’s roster spot, right? Right? savvyspy, wabene, nicksaviking and 16 others 19
operation mindcrime Verified Member Posted July 28, 2018 Posted July 28, 2018 Wow! Who's next? Vanimal46 and d-mac 2
Andrew Thares Twins Daily Contributor Posted July 28, 2018 Posted July 28, 2018 To me this suggests that there is a good chance Kyle Gibson gets traded as well. If the front office was willing to move one of the 2019 controllable players, you would have to image that both of them would be on the table. Still, they shouldn't settle on a deal for Gibson unless they get a great offer. gman, drew_7726, Dman and 1 other 4
Dman Verified Member Posted July 28, 2018 Posted July 28, 2018 Good trade again by the FO. Alcala has a big fastball and above slider to go with a good curve and change. Celestino has a 55 hit tool and is only 19. The FO is setting us up nicely for the future. Thank you!! gman, Monkeypaws, d-mac and 11 others 14
joeshmoe Provisional Member Posted July 28, 2018 Posted July 28, 2018 When the dust settles are we’re going to have left is Grossman, Morrison and Belisle. How depressing. Getting a bunch of Guys in A ball that we’ll be lucky to see in 4 years. Dave The Dastardly, SF Twins Fan, h2oface and 1 other 4
slash129 Verified Member Posted July 28, 2018 Posted July 28, 2018 Not trying to play editor, but ..... Celestino has been at Short Season A ball and what looks to be a fill-in job at AA bridging the gap from EST. "Splitting time between high A and AA" is a bit misleading. ashbury, Rigby, SF Twins Fan and 6 others 9
Brandon Verified Member Posted July 28, 2018 Posted July 28, 2018 Looks like Grossman will be tendered a contract next season to be a placeholder as this front office continues to do the opposite of winning. mikelink45, sftwinsfan, darin617 and 3 others 6
ajstolt_09 Provisional Member Posted July 28, 2018 Posted July 28, 2018 My question is are we punting on next year already? One of our best 2 relievers under control next year, and a guy that loved playing here that we could have resigned. Especially valuable with the struggles of Sano and impending departure of Dozier. I don't understand what we are doing here. And of course the obvious Why is belisle getting innings that the AAA guys deserve? I mean, it's great getting these single A guys that might never pan out as talented as they are, but what about next year?? I'm shaking my head at the 2 guys we dumped today. I'm all for getting rid of Rod, Duke, Dozier, Lynn, Santana.....but how things are moving, Gibby, our #2 starting pitcher is going to be next and I'm really against that. Go into next year with nothing but budget free agents and the AAA roster. Gives a person a lot to look forward to. Glad the farm will have profile to follow sftwinsfan and mikelink45 2
olerud Verified Member Posted July 28, 2018 Posted July 28, 2018 The esco trade sucked! However this pressly one I like!
adorduan Verified Member Posted July 28, 2018 Posted July 28, 2018 Good trade again by the FO. Alcala has a big fastball and above slider to go with a good curve and change. Celestino has a 55 hit tool and is only 19. The FO is setting us up nicely for the future. Thank you!!yeah, well I might be dead by the time the "future" get here.... sftwinsfan, Dave The Dastardly and mikelink45 3
Blake Verified Member Posted July 28, 2018 Posted July 28, 2018 My question is are we punting on next year already? One of our best 2 relievers under control next year, and a guy that loved playing here that we could have resigned. Especially valuable with the struggles of Sano and impending departure of Dozier. I don't understand what we are doing here. And of course the obvious Why is belisle getting innings that the AAA guys deserve? I mean, it's great getting these single A guys that might never pan out as talented as they are, but what about next year?? I'm shaking my head at the 2 guys we dumped today. I'm all for getting rid of Rod, Duke, Dozier, Lynn, Santana.....but how things are moving, Gibby, our #2 starting pitcher is going to be next and I'm really against that. Go into next year with nothing but budget free agents and the AAA roster. Gives a person a lot to look forward to. Glad the farm will have profile to followI think trading Gibson means the FO doesn't think the Twins can compete next year either. wsnydes, adjacent and d-mac 3
slash129 Verified Member Posted July 28, 2018 Posted July 28, 2018 I'm shaking my head at the 2 guys we dumped today. I'm all for getting rid of Rod, Duke, Dozier, Lynn, Santana.....but how things are moving, Gibby, our #2 starting pitcher is going to be next and I'm really against that. Go into next year with nothing but budget free agents and the AAA roster. Gives a person a lot to look forward to. Glad the farm will have profile to follow The order in which these guys move isn't going to necessarily line-up with who we think should be gone. This is going to be news filled weekend. I really hope Gibson stays as well, but you never know who will offer the farm. Falvine gets their opportunity to make a stamp, I guess. MN_ExPat, Blake, wabene and 1 other 4
Thrylos Old-Timey Member Posted July 28, 2018 Posted July 28, 2018 My question is are we punting on next year already? with about 10 teams with a better record in the AL, might be the sane move. No? Doctor Wu and wyowib 2
slash129 Verified Member Posted July 28, 2018 Posted July 28, 2018 The esco trade sucked! However this pressly one I like! In terms of return? I think the returns on both are decent considering the situations. Pressly was bound to command more with that year of control and profile as a power bullpen piece. 60 games and prayer with a player like Escobar returned solid value, IMO. The pitcher looks like a promising player for sure. RaymondLuxuryYacht, alarp33, howieramone2 and 3 others 6
Richie the Rally Goat Community Moderator Posted July 28, 2018 Posted July 28, 2018 To me this suggests that there is a good chance Kyle Gibson gets traded as well. If the front office was willing to move one of the 2019 controllable players, you would have to image that both of them would be on the table. Still, they shouldn't settle on a deal for Gibson unless they get a great offer. I think relievers may be viewed by the FO as more fungible than starters. I’m not yet convinced they’ll deal Gibby. Dozier on the other hand... wabene, brvama, d-mac and 2 others 5
d-mac Verified Member Posted July 28, 2018 Posted July 28, 2018 Gotta think the FO thought the return was too good to turn down for Pressly, a controllable asset. As mentioned above, gotta believe if Gibby gets moved then that tells you how the front office thinks about next year. But I'd also add that that means they probably aren't putting too much stock into Buxton and Sano ever become decent players. Danchat, Blake, Dman and 2 others 5
Tom Froemming Twins Daily Contributor Posted July 28, 2018 Posted July 28, 2018 I like it. Also, I'm happy for Pressly. He gets to go home to Texas and pitch for a really awesome team that's gonna be stoked to add him to their pen. Blake, Lunger, brvama and 9 others 12
jimmer Verified Member Posted July 28, 2018 Posted July 28, 2018 Astros farm system is loaded so their 10th best prospect is still quite a prospect. wabene, SF Twins Fan, brvama and 9 others 12
Squirrel Community Moderator Posted July 28, 2018 Posted July 28, 2018 And Moya on his way to the Twins to take Pressly's spot on the 25-man. rdehring, wabene, Blake and 4 others 7
Tom Froemming Twins Daily Contributor Posted July 28, 2018 Posted July 28, 2018 Hey Seth, you ever think about taking pre-orders for the Twins Prospect Handbook? Something tells me that's going to be a hot item this offseason. Just a hunch. mikelink45, Richie the Rally Goat, nater79a and 4 others 7
Monkeypaws Verified Member Posted July 28, 2018 Posted July 28, 2018 Wow - Bold - I like it. Grabbing some nice prospects today. When the system overflows, the team will benefit, either through producing quality ML talent, or a surplus to get more ML talent. Celestino was signed by Houston out of the DR in 2015 for 2.5 million. gman, brvama, howieramone2 and 4 others 7
TheLeviathan Old-Timey Member Posted July 28, 2018 Posted July 28, 2018 One thing I really hope is that as guys are traded we see players get seasoning at the big league level that need it. This is wehre we need to give Gonsalves, Moya, Gordon, etc. the time to get their feet wet. It'll give us something to be invested in. Along with (hopefully) positive progress from Buxton and Sano. Twins33, sftwinsfan, PseudoSABR and 7 others 10
USAFChief Twins Daily Contributor Posted July 28, 2018 Posted July 28, 2018 Someone smarter than me: does Alcala need to be on the 40 man next year?
Squirrel Community Moderator Posted July 28, 2018 Posted July 28, 2018 One thing I really hope is that as guys are traded we see players get seasoning at the big league level that need it. This is wehre we need to give Gonsalves, Moya, Gordon, etc. the time to get their feet wet. It'll give us something to be invested in. Along with (hopefully) positive progress from Buxton and Sano.Moya is on his way to the Twins. So that’s one. MN_ExPat and TheLeviathan 2
Riverbrian Old-Timey Member Posted July 28, 2018 Posted July 28, 2018 Someone smarter than me: does Alcala need to be on the 40 man next year? I know the answer to this question but you disqualified me from answering it with your pre-qualifications. MN_ExPat, WLFINN, brvama and 21 others 24
wyowib Verified Member Posted July 28, 2018 Posted July 28, 2018 To me this suggests that there is a good chance Kyle Gibson gets traded as well. If the front office was willing to move one of the 2019 controllable players, you would have to image that both of them would be on the table. Still, they shouldn't settle on a deal for Gibson unless they get a great offer.I don't think the correlation is apt. Trading a former rule 5 RP is not the same as trading a top 15ish (this year) starter who can be included as a foundational piece for the next 5 years (if extended). If Gibson gets traded for a good/great return I won't complain and will be happy (I'd prefer to extend him), but I don't think this trade is indicative of an approach to Gibson; I think it's seizing opportunity when it's presented and appropriate. Major League Ready, SwainZag, jud6312 and 3 others 6
Guest Guests Posted July 28, 2018 Posted July 28, 2018 Someone smarter than me: does Alcala need to be on the 40 man next year? I think that he does. He signed with the Astros after he had turned 19. This will be his fourth season in the minors. As such, I think he is Rule 5 eligible if not added to the 40-man.
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