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Agree 100%. Sometimes strategically delaying gratification can lead to greater happiness. Twins haven't taken this approach in the past, lets see how it works out.
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José Berríos Traded to Blue Jays
wyowib replied to Matthew Taylor's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
As of this morning, the Twins are 17 games behind an up-and-coming team, 6 games behind a well known rebuilding up-and-coming team, with 1/3 of the season left to go. I'm personally not downplaying it, just seeing the writing on the wall. I want to root for my favorite team as a legitimate contender, not a "so you're telling me there's a chance" team. The teams referenced developed a plan and are implementing it now, while being more successful than the Twins. IMO the Twins are in a perfect position to implement a plan that expedites the true contender status. I don't think anyone outside of a handful of Twins fans viewed the team as having any chance at truly competing next year with status quo. Surprise next year that opens a true sustainable window, with current assets that have been supplemented.- 304 replies
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- 2021 trade deadline
- jose berrios
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José Berríos Traded to Blue Jays
wyowib replied to Matthew Taylor's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
It's about time this team attempts to "kick start" an actual winning culture- 304 replies
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- 2021 trade deadline
- jose berrios
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I'm wait and see too. My silver lining is that the team is no longer acting like this is a high school sports squad that has no control over incoming talent and just hopes for the best (all it takes is to believe!). They're playing the "game" like other front offices have been doing.
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José Berríos Traded to Blue Jays
wyowib replied to Matthew Taylor's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
It's not about being "prospect lovers", it's about understanding how recently successful (WS winning) baseball teams are being constructed in today's world. In 2012 the Cubs, Astros, Twins were talked about in the same breath because they were the worst teams, 2 of those teams took a path that led them to WS champions, the other took a stubborn "we can compete every year approach regardless of reality" and here we are today; watching the Padres, White Sox reap the benefits of following an intelligent plan and the middle-of-rebuilding Tigers lead this team by 6 games 2/3 the way through the season.- 304 replies
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- 2021 trade deadline
- jose berrios
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Today doesn't change the 100 win/loss threshold of this year. This team has never actually done a rebuild, it's been "we failed this year but think we can compete next year" regardless of reality, for far too long; while other teams commit to an actual plan and have had WS success in the mean time. The silver lining is that the team is establishing an identity FINALLY. They're in a great position to make this "rebuild" more like the Red Sox and less like the Mariners from a time frame perspective.
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I'm in the "I think they saw more value in trying to extend him, in the next few months, over the prospects offered" camp. He's been pretty great/valuable since they took a flyer on him, and seems like a late bloomer that will put up good/respectable #'s even as he ages. IMO he'd be a smart guy to extend with what the make-up of the team is currently looking to be next year. I concur with his mentorship value as others have already pointed out.
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José Berríos Traded to Blue Jays
wyowib replied to Matthew Taylor's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
No, but do they put themselves in position for a legitimate (key word) chance in the future, especially after a lost season. Much like the Cubs, Astros, Royals have done in recent memory, and like the Padres and White Sox are in the middle of doing.- 304 replies
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- 2021 trade deadline
- jose berrios
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José Berríos Traded to Blue Jays
wyowib replied to Matthew Taylor's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
The Twins are tied for 2nd in MLB in HR's, the "Bomba Era" was 2 years ago, last full season, I'd like the focus to be on building a legit WS contender, not selling tickets for the sake of selling tickets, "if you win it, they will come (and make the P-dogs that much richer)"- 304 replies
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- 2021 trade deadline
- jose berrios
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José Berríos Traded to Blue Jays
wyowib replied to Matthew Taylor's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Not to split hairs here, but Buxton and Berrios were drafted in 2012, Rosario and Sano came up together with Rosario out homering Sano (at low A 21-20 IIRC) and Cave didn't come until 2018. This current FO rolled dice on the pasts' highly regarded prospects but that lead to a good not great team, I have a feeling they want to try things their way now, if it works, then plenty of young fans will get attached, if not, then it's no different than the past decade plus- 304 replies
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- 2021 trade deadline
- jose berrios
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José Berríos Traded to Blue Jays
wyowib replied to Matthew Taylor's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
100% agree. I cheered when Berrios was drafted, I knew who he was and wanted him, love the dude. But, this disaster season is quite the opportunity to shuffle assets/sunk costs into possible future success for the reason you stated. This team is in better position than the ones I mentioned due to young highly thought of players getting their feet wet, young-ish players who have shown talent in the past and are on team friendly deals, high quality/deep farm system that is now being supplemented, high draft pick (at least next year) and MOST importantly; no name prospects who are at least causing people to take notice (such as Winder), when was the last time the Twins had a prospect come out of nowhere (1 second baseman in the past 20 years?) the way a team like Tampa or even Cleveland seems to have done recently. I feel this was a perfect storm to establish an identity that could very well be a quick turn around (2023 "surprise" team)- 304 replies
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- 2021 trade deadline
- jose berrios
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José Berríos Traded to Blue Jays
wyowib replied to Matthew Taylor's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
When was the last time the team made a trade like this? I'm thinking Santana. The Twins haven't had an identity in a very long time, they've been treading water like Seattle. In the mean time the Cubs and Astros committed to rebuilds and won WS, Padres committed and look to be a force, White Sox committed (even trading a pretty good pitcher to start) and look to be a force, Red Sox traded their best player and are making the play offs this year, and the Tigers who are in full rebuild, are currently 6 games ahead of a team who some fans thought could compete next year. I'm sick of treading water with hope. White Sox and Padres went through down times but I'm sure their fan base is pretty happy right now.- 304 replies
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- 2021 trade deadline
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Miller: Several teams pursuing Berríos
wyowib replied to Brock Beauchamp's topic in Minnesota Twins Talk
He's a 20 year old at AA, that's pretty intriguing. I also really like martin. While I hope there are a couple rookie ball throw-ins, not a bad haul for a pitcher that is going to test the market after next season on a team that is 17 games out of 1st and a full 6 games under the in-full-rebuild mode Tigers. -
Miller: Several teams pursuing Berríos
wyowib replied to Brock Beauchamp's topic in Minnesota Twins Talk
Isn't it reported that Duffy was had for a PTBNL, hasn't come back from injury yet. If Padres get Max and this is the only move the Dodgers make that's quite the gamble that Kershaw and Duffy come back with no issues. I don't think that's the Dodgers thinking, seems like a depth move. Not saying they pony up with another move but I don't think they view Duffy as the be-all-end-all answer. Doesn't fit their MO. -
MIN 2, MIL 0: Take a Bow, José Berríos
wyowib replied to Lucas Seehafer PT's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Twins lose on opening day in the 9th to a really good team and it's complain, complain, complain, Twins win against same team in the SECOND game of a 162 season and it's; complain, compla..., I've loved this site since it's inception but I remember a few years back there was a "Rookies and Lurkers" thread where the 1st response mentioned the negativity of this site as a reason they probably won't visit often. I've come to that point; I appreciate all the actual BB reporting and talk but the number of negative micro-managing comments is wearing me thin. I don't have rainbow glasses and criticism is an important part of life, but seriously, it's baseball, this team is considered one of the top teams by people who aren't Twins fans, enjoy positive moments, and actually trust the "it's a long season" mantra. -
The Angels will beat any offer any team presents (dollars, years, geographic location...). They have financial flexibility, made and won the play for Ohtani, and don't want to waste having Trout. The Twins should focus free agency on building a solid core (Odor and Pineda); with the hope that they pull the trigger on the over the top trade. It's the reality of being a fan of non-large market team.
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Uumm, I'm confused? The post I made that you are responding to had to do with spycake calling me out for endorsing a trade of "Smeltzer and Raley, brought in for 2 months of Dozier just a year ago, should now be sufficient to fetch 3.5 years of a top reliever?" , which I never said and am attempting to find the post I liked that spycake is referring to so I can have a legitimate conversation regarding the context of said post that I'm being called out for
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I can't respond to this because I don't know the context of what you're referencing. I've been a "lurker" on this site since its inception but, as you can see, don't have a lot of experience posting or liking. Can you tell my how to find the post I endorsed that you're referencing, for context, so that I may respond. What you specifically posted is not in line with my thought process so I would like to either respond in context or apologize for the influential contents of my cup.
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I agree with this, the cost for Stroman across the BB world was thought to be much higher than the actual price. It reminds me when Tulo was traded, there were a few people on here that posted it would take 2 of Buxton/Sano/Berrios as a starter, yet the Blue Jays got him for much less in prospect capital (this is part of the back story for my underestimation comment). At this point in time, I want the Twins to be on level of a Red Sox trade, not a Pirates trade, and I see giving the fee needed for Syndegaard more in line with getting Archer than Sale.
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"I don’t know why posters here overestimate other teams assets". THIS!; combined with "while underestimating the Twins assets" (when compared to the rest of the league)
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But MLB pipeline also ranks both Graterol and Balazovic in their top 100, while neither of the Mets prospects are ranked. Subjectively, rankers (non Twins fans) seem to regard these 2 higher than the ex-Mets prospects.
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From what I've seen, Balazovic and Graterol are much more highly regarded prospects than the ones the Mets traded. Why would they (one or both) have been the "minimum" when the Mets traded less?
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The Mets didn't have to give up anything close to this to get Stroman, who has better numbers in the AL east and only 1 less year of control (IIRC). I think replacing Buxton for Syndegaard would actually be a net loss for this current team. I've become a hard pass on Syndegaard for the deals people have suggested on this site. If I'm offering a "Sale" type package like Boston did, I want a "Sale" type pitcher (I'd offer the Reds a ton for Castillo for example). Get another BP arm and ride.
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2019 Twins Midseason Top Prospect List: 21-25
wyowib replied to Cody Christie's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Miranda's only 20??? Still?...one of those players where you're like "I could have sworn I've been reading about him for..." yet not even drinking age, man, my 40 YO brain isn't as on top of it as it used to be. That being said, I LOVED the Gonsalves pick, extra early mocks had him in the top half of the first. Where he was picked I thought,"This is exactly the type of chance they should take". Not a fan of the Old Guard, but this was a good pick. If he doesn't work out even on the level of a "trade piece, AAAA starter, bull pen..." I won't be disappointed. It happens more often than not. And taking a chance on him was better than placing all hopes on 1st rounders with names like Wimmers and Micheal; the, "low ceiling/high floor Twins guys" (I hated those picks so much, I mean, how accurate are the 1st ten picks in a typical mock?, and yet, every. single. person who put out a mock knew the twins would take those two in the 20's) Gonsalves was a great 4th round pick that at this point is nothing but gravy if he works out in some way.- 11 replies
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I'm confused by this. How does money coming off the books equate to being able to spend even more money than was already being spent? Re-allocating resources doesn't equate to growth. (We'll see if the added revenue by winning is an incentive to spend more)

