Walker Jenkins's Debut May Be Further Away Than You Think

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1 hour ago, Mike Sixel said:

I mean, Roden should be up now over Fedko. 100%.

Fedko another bring to MLB but don't play him player and block another guy in AAA at the same time.

Brilliant roster construction.

[chpettit19]

10 minutes ago, Cory Engelhardt said:

How many A or A+ pitchers were acquired at the deadline last year? Were there any?

And I did say that mostly because of Matthew Leach's article at MLB.com the other day, where he floated the idea that the Twins could sell some players, like Larnach, but also attempt to bring in some bullpen help.

MLB for MLB trades rarely happen. A team trading for Larnach is looking to win this year, they're not likely to trade useful bullpen pieces in that situation. The buy and sell dance is trading prospects for bullpen help while trading Larnach types for prospects to replace the ones you traded.

[mnfireman]

27 minutes ago, Cory Engelhardt said:

How many A or A+ pitchers were acquired at the deadline last year? Were there any?

And I did say that mostly because of Matthew Leach's article at MLB.com the other day, where he floated the idea that the Twins could sell some players, like Larnach, but also attempt to bring in some bullpen help.

Alex Call (2), Mike Yaztrzemski, Miguel Andujar, and Cedrick Mullins (3) were the examples I found closest to Larnach.

I know Mullins is a CF, which is probably why he returned 3 A+ pitchers even while having a down year, that and he was traded to the Mets, who were evidently willing to overpay.

Willi Castro returned 2 AA pitchers, Chicago was also willing to overpay.

Bader was having a career resurgence, but only returned a AA OF and a young pitcher that was pitching in the Dominican Summer League.

Stewart, the oft-injured RP, returned Outman.

I don't see Larnach bringing back a MLB RP, much less one that will impact the teams BP down the stretch.

[bean5302]

 

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Walker Jenkins, has largely dominated the minor leagues.

Seems pretty generous given Jenkins' often slow starts, quick promotions after short bursts of raking, and his relatively pedestrian results at AAA.

Jenkins is probably better than absolute replacement level as a starting CF right now if he's got as much or more speed than advertised, but do the Twins want to start his clock burning time as a replacement+ player before he gets more experience and is potentially worth the starting job? As a corner OF, he might be able to duplicate a Kepler-like performance with a close to league average bat putting together 2 WAR campaigns with defense.

 

 

[HerbieFan]

If he stays healthy and continues to play well I think we see him after the trade deadline.

[Cory Engelhardt]

1 hour ago, mnfireman said:

Alex Call (2), Mike Yaztrzemski, Miguel Andujar, and Cedrick Mullins (3) were the examples I found closest to Larnach.

I know Mullins is a CF, which is probably why he returned 3 A+ pitchers even while having a down year, that and he was traded to the Mets, who were evidently willing to overpay.

Willi Castro returned 2 AA pitchers, Chicago was also willing to overpay.

Bader was having a career resurgence, but only returned a AA OF and a young pitcher that was pitching in the Dominican Summer League.

Stewart, the oft-injured RP, returned Outman.

I don't see Larnach bringing back a MLB RP, much less one that will impact the teams BP down the stretch.

I just meant, they didn't acquire, the Twins, any pitchers like you had mentioned.

I also think the Twins could thread a needle where they trade players like Jeffers and Larnach and even Ryan for different levels of returns while also adding a couple of bullpen pieces. At least that path is feasible.

[mnfireman]

3 minutes ago, Cory Engelhardt said:

I just meant, they didn't acquire, the Twins, any pitchers like you had mentioned.

I also think the Twins could thread a needle where they trade players like Jeffers and Larnach and even Ryan for different levels of returns while also adding a couple of bullpen pieces. At least that path is feasible.

I get it, we all want a good return for our players, I was just pointing out what happened in MLB at last year's deadline, including the return the Twins got for a couple of players that were similar to Larnach. 

The best return will be for Jeffers, especially if the Yankees are involved and the Twins can maybe get a bidding war started.

Ryan will have to significantly improve upon his near 5.00 ERA for the month of June to get a good/decent return, but if the Twins are still contenders they may decide to keep him - tearing down the rotation to build a BP makes no sense.

[JADBP]

7 hours ago, Dman said:

While I tend to agree with the article I still think he controls his own destiny.  If he goes on a tear the next couple of months I could see them adding him. I don't think the lockout affects him too much even if on the 40 man.  He'll still be able to hit and play baseball when they come back.

He's gonna have to really prove he is ready first though as the 40 man has too many outfielders on it already.  Granted pretty easy to move on from some of them.  As noted he doesn't "need" to be added until the end of 2027.  I'd say the odds are they don't add him, but if he forces their hand that could change IMO.

 

Other than Buxton, which of these OFers are really part of our long term plans????  Its gonna be Gonzales, Emma and Jenkins in the OF.  I say, get them started as soon as possible!  Choose a 4th OFer from the either Roden or Mendez.  But, come on...why are we hanging on to the others?  Let's start trimming the excess this trade season and accept the obvious.  There is no reason on this earth to keep putting Larnach or Wallner in the OF if we have these talented players available. 

 

[HarmonK03]

44 minutes ago, mnfireman said:

Ryan will have to significantly improve upon his near 5.00 ERA for the month of June to get a good/decent return, but if the Twins are still contenders they may decide to keep him - tearing down the rotation to build a BP makes no sense.

One month is not going to change his value.  All reports say he will be one of the more sought after free agents if he is made available.  Get over his outing on Tuesday, it happens.