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Trading Ryan Jeffers Would Be the Wrong Move for the Twins
TNtwins85 replied to Sam Caulder's topic in Minnesota Twins Talk
I think he can command a couple good players in a trade. Probably one good close to MLB prospect and one good lottery ticket. I’d love either of Elmer Rodriguez/ Carlos LaGrange as your close to ready electric arms and then add in Allen Facundo as an electric arm lottery ticket. That’s who I’d want from the Yankees anyways. Rodriguez/LaGrange probably come up this year and Facundo is 23 but needs some refinement. -
Yes, granted the big league club has really dug into that depth we haven’t really seen anybody step up this season. There’s usually 1–2 guys a season that really step up. Their college draft picks from last year have been missing other than maybe Quick. Take the BPA at 3 on Saturday and load the system with arms after that!
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Trading Ryan Jeffers Would Be the Wrong Move for the Twins
TNtwins85 replied to Sam Caulder's topic in Minnesota Twins Talk
You also don’t get better by signing 29 year old catchers to 4-5 year deals for 11-15million a year when catchers tend to decline rapidly in their 30’s. Usually. Maybe Jeffers is different but you can count on him declining within that 4-5 years. Maybe he still hits well into his 30’s but he for sure doesn’t get better defensively. You could get better by trading him for a few guys who have team control for 6-7 years and end up making maybe 20 million if they’re decent in their 6 year span. That’s the risk though. There’s also the possibility that they all don’t turn out. I would love to keep Jeffers but that ship sailed at least a year ago. At this point you cash him in and try your best to develop whomever you get for him. -
Trading Ryan Jeffers Would Be the Wrong Move for the Twins
TNtwins85 replied to Sam Caulder's topic in Minnesota Twins Talk
Uhhh yeah, no. Caratini does not get the same as Jeffers. Although their stat lines may look the same for their years played Jeffers will get you back more. I thought about this but trading Caratini and keeping Jeffers really hamstrings you for next year. The answer is you have to trade him. It’s just the hard truth of the situation. -
Trading Ryan Jeffers Would Be the Wrong Move for the Twins
TNtwins85 replied to Sam Caulder's topic in Minnesota Twins Talk
He hired Boras once it was known that he will be a free agent. I imagine once they signed Carratini to a 2 year deal the writing was on the wall. Also, the Twins not offering anything in the previous 6 years as far as an extension. He’s as good as gone. Get a decent prospect or 2 for him. -
Walker Jenkins's Debut May Be Further Away Than You Think
TNtwins85 replied to Sam Caulder's topic in Twins Minor League Talk
Agreed. At this point if you can get Erod healthy before the deadline and you can package him and another OFer to A. Clear a path for some other guys and B. Get yourself a controllable/ higher upside MLB ready pitcher I think you do it. A. As shown this year they need more pitching. B. Even though I like Erod I’m over the injuries and I question whether his skills hold up in MLB. C. They just have to clear this glut of non elite stagnant OFers to clear a path for some of these other guys. -
Walker Jenkins's Debut May Be Further Away Than You Think
TNtwins85 replied to Sam Caulder's topic in Twins Minor League Talk
If he’s doing what a healthy Walker Jenkins has tended to do in his minor league career to this point and he’s not up by say August 4th then grab the pitchforks. He doesn’t need anymore seasoning regardless if the Twins are in it or not. Right now he’s your best RF/LF option defensively and can hold his own at the dish the same if not better than most not named Buxton, or Larnach. -
Exactly. Contrary to what most people think or want to believe maybe it’s the players choice. It’s a give and take and one has to think from the players perspective. Free agency is the one and only time a player gets to choose. Free agency is the players reward for making it 2,3,4 years in the minors to make themselves an MLB player and endure and succeed for 6 years to get to that point. It’s not bad on the Twins and it’s not bad on the player. For 7,8,9 years the team holds all the cards. It’s very difficult to sign a catcher to a long term deal. Look at Mauer. One foul ball off the mask changes the whole course of a franchise and that’s for a player who aged decently. Most catchers don’t. It’s not the Twins bad. It’s just calculating risk. Maybe he turned down extensions. That’s his right too to be able to get to the one point of an MLB career where he gets to choose. It’s more complex than one thing or another.
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Really? Below average? Like a 28 year old Wallner? Or a 27 year old Martin? Or a 30 something Clemens? Or a 29 year old Larnach? Yeah he’s had injuries and that’s frustrating but let’s not turn on him before he even gets to the majors. My eye tells me he’s gonna be a pure hitter right away. The swing is very good and the eye is great for a 21 year old. Power? He’ll have it. Maybe not 30 Homer power right away but who does. He’ll be solid and that’s what the team needs now. Also, plays a good center and can be superb in the corners. Exactly as advertised. Is he Juan Soto? No. But neither was Juan Soto right away. Come on people. Give the guy a chance before putting the Minnesota hate on this kid.
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Not just the HR. He was 4-5. A typical Jenkins single up the middle. A perfectly placed blooper into right center, then he took a breaking pitch off a lefty away a smashed it opposite field. The homer looked middle in off a righty that he just turned on. All good controlled hits. He looked himself for sure!
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Yes, it’s surprising but if you can’t send him down and he hasn’t figured it out in 50 innings and his peak was what we seen the last few years what else are you supposed to do? At some point you need to cut bait and so far this regime seems to be quicker than the last. That’s a good thing to keep this team in a wildcard race that they’re surprisingly still in and for the good of the team long term.
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I don’t believe it’s for lack of trying. I’ve always believed he’s just that bad at defense.his routes and jumps are atrocious. I don’t care about the arm. He can throw it 200mph from right field but if he can’t judge a ball in the gap or an in between dropper then the arm will never make up for that. Begs the question why he was never tried at 1B. The arm? Morneau had a terrific arm at first base and certainly wasn’t wasted. How many runs could have been saved the last 3 years just having a average defender out there?
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If Chicago takes Cholowsky and Tampa takes Vahn then the Twins absolutely have to take Emerson or Flora. If they try to play the money game to get better picks later then they’ve squandered the 3rd pick. Those are the only 2 options at 3 if that’s how it plays out. BPA. Royce Lewis was not the best player available. Remember these names! Royce Lewis, Landon Leach, Blayne Enlow, Charlie Barnes.
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I’m not sure Flora or Flukey are on Skenes’ level. Should they take one of them? I for one would love to see how the Twins pitching system molds an electric, potential top of the rotation college arm as opposed to the the Joe Ryan’s, Bailey obers and David Festa later round pick guys. They’re great but by the time they come up they’re always 24,25,26 just because of the refinement needed. A guy who just needs a few tweaks and a little refinement with some professional innings! I think they can mold a skenes out of one of those guys. Do they take the risk? Doubt it. Would it be fun to see one of those guys dominating come next summer? Absolutely!
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Kyler Fedko couldn’t be any worse then James outman. Probably would love to sit at the end of a major league bench and provide what you stated? If the bar is a guy who can hit .125 and play shaky CF and ok LF and RF and getting a few pinch running appearances I think you try Fedko out for a few weeks. Can’t be any or much worse and he’s a righty.
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I like Lombard but not at 3. I know prospects are prospects but at number 3 you need a guy who is rock solid. Lombard seems too much like a Royce Lewis. I wasn’t in when he was a HS prospect either. Guys with questions about their hit tool are not guys you take top 3. Or number one in Lewis’ case. If you’re the Twins you’re hoping Cholowsky or Emerson drops to you at 3 and you’re perfectly content taking Lackey or Flora at 3. Anybody else is simply out of the question really. The hit tool is your bedrock that you start from and hope for power and all the other things. Lewis is exhibit one of why you don’t do it the other way.
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In the past he’s looked good at third and I believe he could be great at second given a bigger runway than he’s had in the past. Not sure he has the arm for third but it’s for sure average for third. If he can be a 270/320/430 guy with 20 bombs and solid defense at either second or third that’s an Ian Kinsler style player. Definitely someone you keep around as a complimentary player on a good team. Just need a few guys who he compliments.
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The Twins Aren't Serious About Rebuilding The Bullpen
TNtwins85 replied to Cody Pirkl's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
You didn’t know? This team will be competitive! Pohlads words not mine. They are competitive for the most part until the starter is pulled. Then it’s a wild roller coaster ride. Very competitive until it ultimately isn’t.- 47 replies
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Looks like he is out for the year but would love to get him if Joe Ryan is what it takes. As Far as Royce Lewis… get what you can and move on. Let it be a lesson to just take the best available regardless of position. Which would have been Hunter Greene or Mackenzie Gore. Other than a couple good stretches he has never been an elite hitter and was never destined to be a shortstop. Greene and Gore haven’t been world beaters either but they were considered better at the time. Lewis as a prospect never showed anything but average anything.
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I would agree. My term “soft compete” means just that. A calculated move? Yes. Absolutely raises the floor, bridges a gap to Tait and a few other catchers in the minors and opens a door to a Jeffers trade either this offseason if the right deal comes along but more likely at the deadline because the “soft compete” failed for the fact it was a half measure.
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