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Absolutely! Why not let Ryan and Karat choose the pitches? That would be interesting! He certainly seems capable.

Huh. Ok. Back home again. I wish him luck!

I think we are saying the same thing. Sure, the LAD tried Outman in CF for a couple of good chances before they subbed in Pages. Maybe they rushed Pages up a bit but they couldn’t continue with Outman. So they moved on. The Twins, on the other hand, brought Wallner up on 2022… and still he has made little progress. The LAD world not give a player 4 years to learn the Biggs. Wallner has only two of five skills: arm and power. He has had countless chances over 4 MLB seasons to develop into a better hitter/fielder. He has consistently failed. My point was that the LAD would not have given Wallner 4 years.

Oh Boy, DREAM ON. I have no prob losing SWR. Too bad but that was a bad trade and it’s now in the rear view mirror. I am happy to see the Twins holding players accountable. Sure, more to come. What this really shows is how thin the Twins team really is! We only have 3-4 dependable pitchers on the team-and some are injured. We have 3-4 excellent fielders. The rest, not so much. I do hope they now call up the young new outfielders. The Outman experiment is over. Let’s see if some of this upcoming talent can fill some holes. We need to know so we can fill them next season (if there is a next season).

Yeah but not all 30 go through this the same way. The LAD have very few, if any, Wallners on the team. They were given the corner pocket a very long time ago. Then the LAD just go out and buy a great replacement.

So…what am I supposed to do with my expensive Lewis jersey now???

The chance of the Twins holding on to Ryan are about 0.0000000%. Full stop.

At what point do you give up on Outman and/or Wallner. Pathetic is right !!! I am absolutely sick and tired of all the RISP opportunities left behind by Wallner. I wonder if the Twins are afraid of swapping Wallner for Emma because if they do, Wallner might never play another game in Minneapolis? Buy throwing him out there every day over and over just hoping he breaks out is just insanity. Maybe even stupidity.

The last time the Twins had a clear #1 starter, like a Verlander or Clemons, was Johann Santana. I like the idea of Flora too, but not sure they are going to listen to us! I think the Twins mgmt completely ignores TD and PP. It would be nice if they would appreciate what fans are thinking/saying....

ABSOLUTELY POSITIVELY SPOT ON!!!

Santana the phenom of phenoms! Blyleven—the Eveready Battery! I thought he was going to retire then zoom zoom another five years on the mound. And so much fun! 17Ks maybe some future phenom can get there but you need Skenes talent and a willing mgr today

The greatest international player ever signed by the Twins (and also my favorite Twin ever!) was the immensely skilled, fabulously talented, and super great guy, MR. Tony Oliva. I don't think we ever had a more gracious Gentleman on the team. In 1964, he was ROY and lead ALL of MLB in hits, runs, AND batting AVG along with being a great fielder, leading all of MLB in putouts. He came in 4th in MVP voting in 64 and runner up 3 times more. 17-time All Star. Just sayin..,.. So, We can find remarkable talent in the international free agent pool. I could never figure out why the Twins never played in the deep end of the pool, where the better talents are lingering...especially when we had such large international free agent bonus pool ($7.3 million this year). Maybe this is just another example of the Pohlads being cheap? They are afraid of spending money--so much so that they traded int'l bonus pool $$$ for a player (Banda) earlier this year! Whew!

Agreed. Cherry picking stats. Compare the first few columns of data-Wallner isn’t even close! Especially look at number of games, RBI. so if we want to send Wallner to AAA to get his hitting back up to par, then why not bring up Emma to play RF full time—his hitting IS up to par!!!!

LOL, yeah, he SURE DID!

Man oh man...I am sorry to say but he was not even close to the 7th best outfielder...maybe the 7th worst! He was dismal at driving in runs, the ideal goal for a power hitter...with 118 runs over those 3 years. Top outfielders like Judge and Soto hit drive in nearly that man runs in one season, not 3! Over three years, Judge: 333 RBI! Wallner's best year, subjectively, was 2024, where he hit 13 HR, but struck out 95 times. Ouch. Not a good year. OK, how about 2025? 40 RBI, 114K's. He is a strikeout machine! Looking at Statmuse, I can't even get down to Wallner's level-his stats are so bad. They only show the top 25 outfielders in any season. So, here's a good question...WHAT the heck happened to Wallner? He looking like he was starting to ascend in 2024 and I know he was injured, but what to his hitting? Starting some time in late 2024, his batting AVG just went into the tank and his K's went throug the roof! He is currently hitting at a rate of around 283 K's for the year (the record for most K's in a year is 223!). He's sitting at #2 right now with 34 (James Wood, who had 221 K's last year, is in first with 36 Ks).

LOL....I am confused to all heck! I am a fan on this site and for the life of me, I was not exacerbated when Larnach was tendered last fall. But, yeah, he is the one that has some actual trade value. As for Wallner...did you mean to say that Wallner's best is not as good as Larnach's worst? Yeah...OK...if we weren't carrying dead weight OUTman, then yeah, Wallner would look stupid being the worst hitter on the team. But that's not all...because he is also a poor RF'er and not at all fast. I hope he finds a fine future in MLB, probably as a DH, with SOME OTHER team!

I can't wait for the 10 games to be over and Wallner is swapped with Emma.

Geez, I'd take Max over Wallner ANY DAY!

I cast all 15 of my votes for Wallner!!!

You guys may disagree, but this was the problem with Falvey/Rocco. Why does this team keep repeating failed attempts with players (Manual Margot going 0 for 30)? How many times do you need to hit yourself on the head with a hammer to prove that it really does hurt? This team holds on to one-dimensional (one-skilled) players like Outman and Wallner, letting them flail away day after day. Its inane. I was hopeful that the "this team will be competitive" mantra and new management might have changed this repetitive failing. Outman and Wallner do not make the team more competitive--they make it LESS competitive.

What happened is that he is now in the Dodgers system where they do a far better job of bringing out players talent and teaching MLB skills!!!

Arguing over Outman vs Kreidler vs. Lee vs. Larnach/Wallner/whoever is just a waste of energy. The argument is when do you bring up the next outfield in AAA? We all know it is enormously challenging to jump from AAA to MLB and we expect Emma/Jenkins/Gonzo/C-pepper to stumble when they show up. But I would MUCH RATHER pay to watch our them than watch any of Outman/Kreidler/Lee and most especially Wallner. At some point Zoll has to grow up and know that he is now running the show, not Falvey. He needs to put his big boy pants on and make his own decisions, not repeat the same crap that Falvey did. He needs to learn that some players just are not gonna succeed in MLB, no matter where they were drafted. He has to let them go (Outman, Wallner, etc) or send them down for retraining (Lee, maybe Lewis?). He has to be able to let go. Every once in a while he will lose a Brent Rooker or Spencer Steer, but that should not stop him from moving on from some players. If Rooker has a good career elsewhere, so be it. You tried. I'm OK giving Lewis and Lee types more time (and maybe some specialized AAA time), but it the Wallner, Outman, Kreidler, group needs to be gone. They are doing more harm than good to the current and the future team.

Whoops...you missed one! 3B Gray throwing up his hands saying "Throw it to me!" It looked like Martin was going to throw it home, to cut off the run, but he's trained to throw it to the guy with his arms up...which he did. Martin should have thrown it home, which he might have if instead Gray just points to home. While Martin is not the strongest thrower, he can certainly make it home from shallow LF. I'd add that in as another fielding error on the part of Gray. I agree that Lee should have picked up the ball. He was close--steps away--and Martin still 30-40 ft away. Good thing Martin is fast! But, it was Lee's job to back up the bobble by Gray, and he was 5 ft away versus Martin. Look at these pictures...Lee is 2-3 steps away (although the ball is rolling away from him) while Martin is what 30-40 ft away? That was Lee's ball! I disagree that "LF was charging in..." Yeah, he WAS, but Lee was far closer to the ball. If Lee goes gets that ball, he freezes the runner at 3B. S0, I have an 3B flubbed the catch. E on Lee for not backing him up (I have no idea what Lee contributed to the play--he was a spectator! Maybe an E on LF for muffing the catch, but NOT on his throw, he followed his training and threw it to the guy with his arms up. And, yeah, another E on Gray for throwing his arms up and/or not throwing it home (but by that time, I don't think he could have caught the runner. It was too late. He should have just stood there and pointed to home plate.

This game, even with all the errors and pitching mistakes, I put on the back on Shelton. I agree...putting Morris back out there to pitch the 9th inning was INANE! Shelton said in this postgame interview that the BP was a little beat up...but he still had Acton who had to come in anyways to rescue Morris. Morris is brand new to the biggs and you put him in as the closer in a tight game against a tough team. What the H was Shelton thinking?

We are never going to be a consistently competitive team until we clean up the roster. The frustrating part is that several of the answers seem to be ready to go in StP. Here is my anxiety: we are going to lose so many of these games already. So why keep throwing the likes of Larnach, Lee, Topa, Wallner (especially Wallner!) and Fubderberk out there just to lose and lose again? Wallner is who he is and jamming him out there a gazillion times is not going to suddenly make him a .275 hitter with 35 HRs. He is never-ever gone be that guy. So swap out Wallner for Emma. Topa for Prielipp. Lee for Culpepper. Give them a chance and let guys like Wallner refind their groove in AAA. Here is my question: would you rather [pay to] watch the team we have or the rookies?