mnfireman Verified Member Posted January 11, 2023 Posted January 11, 2023 Casualty of the Carlos Correa signing. https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2023/01/twins-designate-kyle-garlick-for-assignment.html
Dman Verified Member Posted January 11, 2023 Posted January 11, 2023 It is about time they moved an outfielder off the 40 man. I really liked how Garlick hit lefties and have to imagine a team will pick him up. Maybe the Twins can get something in trade for him yet.
CRF Verified Member Posted January 11, 2023 Posted January 11, 2023 Package of Garlick and Pagan to anyone who would want them.
DJL44 Verified Member Posted January 11, 2023 Posted January 11, 2023 Now they really need to swap a LH hitting outfielder for a RH hitting outfielder.
stringer bell Verified Member Posted January 11, 2023 Posted January 11, 2023 I thought the team should have non-tendered him and essentially this is the result. If someone wants to give the Twins something for him, that is great. If not, thanks for your efforts Kyle. This makes it more certain that Celestino will be on the Opening Day roster unless they bring in someone new. I hope the Twins can find someone who has a better chance to hit than Celestino and perhaps someone who could serve as a pinch runner and actually take an extra base or swipe a bag. If Martin can hit like he did in the AFL, I think he is a better fit than Celestino.
Rosterman Verified Member Posted January 11, 2023 Posted January 11, 2023 Well, with the recent signing of veteran Ryan Lamarre, the Twins now have two right-handed outfield bats...in AAA...waiting for a call!
4twinsJA Verified Member Posted January 11, 2023 Posted January 11, 2023 I liked Garlick, but couldn't stay healthy.
LA Vikes Fan Verified Member Posted January 11, 2023 Posted January 11, 2023 I would like to see an upgrade from Garlick but I don't think that Celestino is necessarily that upgrade. I know he can play CF (sort of), but I think that Gordon is almost as good so I don't think one keeps Celestino around just for that reason. He could really use a full year's worth of the bats in AAA to improve as a player. As the eternal optimist, I'm hoping that the signals they have either a trade or potential free-agent deal coming for a right-handed hitting outfielder. Combined with a Kepler trade, hopefully as part of the package to Miami for a pitcher, that would really improve the roster. You essentially have a starting outfield of Buxton, Gallo, and some combination every day of Larnach, Gordon and this new RH hitter. Plenty of at bats to go around there particularly when you realize the DH slot is open for 1 of the outfielders not being used or or whoever of the Miranda/Arraez/Kirilloff group is not playing 1B or 3B that day. So to me, the real issue is Kepler vs. Larnach on the roster. For a lot of reasons, I think Larnach is the call and Kepler should be traded. That's for another thread.
CRF Verified Member Posted January 11, 2023 Posted January 11, 2023 34 minutes ago, Rosterman said: Well, with the recent signing of veteran Ryan Lamarre, the Twins now have two right-handed outfield bats...in AAA...waiting for a call! They didn't really bring back Hedley LaMarr...did they?
Doctor Gast Verified Member Posted January 11, 2023 Posted January 11, 2023 I expect that no one will pick him up and I wouldn't be surprised if he circle back to the Twins.
chpettit19 Community Moderator Posted January 11, 2023 Posted January 11, 2023 If I'm remembering correctly, Garlick has an option year left. I'd think that probably makes him a decent bet to be picked up by another team here. Can't say I'm super upset to see him go. No defense, can only hit lefties hitters are not overly valuable players. That's a very specific niche to fit into.
LA Vikes Fan Verified Member Posted January 11, 2023 Posted January 11, 2023 53 minutes ago, CRF said: They didn't really bring back Hedley LaMarr...did they? In the words of Hedley Lamarr as he addressed the gang of cut throats, murderers, etc. about to attack Rock Ridge - "Men, you are about to embark on a great crusade to stamp out rampant decency in the west. Now you men will only be risking your lives, Whilst I will be risking an almost certain Academy Award nomination for best supporting actor. " I say we sign him if only for stirring pre-game speeches.
GKuehl Verified Member Posted January 11, 2023 Posted January 11, 2023 Because he’s guaranteed major league money, another team is less likely another team would pick him up and stash him in the minors. This is somewhat similar to what we did last year with Jharel Cotton — no team wanted to claim him because they’d have to either keep him in the majors or pay him a major league salary to play in the minors.
SanoMustGo Verified Member Posted January 11, 2023 Posted January 11, 2023 We need someone to play against lefty's, but not Garlick. Not a fan, never was.
ashbury Verified Member Posted January 11, 2023 Posted January 11, 2023 1 hour ago, LA VIkes Fan said: I say we sign him if only for stirring pre-game speeches. "I say we kill him." "I say we hang him, then we kill him." "I say we stomp him, then we tattoo him, then we hang him, and then we kill him." "I say we let him go." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Z0VMI67a4Y
Parfigliano Verified Member Posted January 11, 2023 Posted January 11, 2023 3 hours ago, 4twinsJA said: I liked Garlick, but couldn't stay healthy. Couldn't stay healthy seem to be a recurring theme with this team.
DocBauer Old-Timey Member Posted January 11, 2023 Posted January 11, 2023 I've said for some time I think the Twins are hoping to keep him around at St Paul, like they did with Cave last year, in the form of insurance. And I'm hoping that happens.
LA Vikes Fan Verified Member Posted January 11, 2023 Posted January 11, 2023 27 minutes ago, ashbury said: "I say we kill him." "I say we hang him, then we kill him." "I say we stomp him, then we tattoo him, then we hang him, and then we kill him." "I say we let him go." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Z0VMI67a4Y Well played.
rwilfong86 Verified Member Posted January 11, 2023 Posted January 11, 2023 2 hours ago, SanoMustGo said: We need someone to play against lefty's, but not Garlick. Not a fan, never was. Andrew McCutchen is still available......
tarheeltwinsfan Verified Member Posted January 11, 2023 Posted January 11, 2023 5 hours ago, Tjwalsh65 said: Garlick for Bauer :) JK Q - Can Bauer hit lefties? A - Only when they stand too close to the plate.
tarheeltwinsfan Verified Member Posted January 11, 2023 Posted January 11, 2023 5 hours ago, DJL44 said: Now they really need to swap a LH hitting outfielder for a RH hitting outfielder. I predict Martin will make the Twins in LF to platoon against lefties.
tarheeltwinsfan Verified Member Posted January 11, 2023 Posted January 11, 2023 5 hours ago, stringer bell said: I thought the team should have non-tendered him and essentially this is the result. If someone wants to give the Twins something for him, that is great. If not, thanks for your efforts Kyle. This makes it more certain that Celestino will be on the Opening Day roster unless they bring in someone new. I hope the Twins can find someone who has a better chance to hit than Celestino and perhaps someone who could serve as a pinch runner and actually take an extra base or swipe a bag. If Martin can hit like he did in the AFL, I think he is a better fit than Celestino. If Martin hits like he did in AFL, he can play anywhere he wants ! BA - .373 plus over 50 walks; OPS - .936 ; SB - Over 70; and less than 50 SO if he gets 500 AB.
DJL44 Verified Member Posted January 11, 2023 Posted January 11, 2023 3 minutes ago, tarheeltwinsfan said: If Martin hits like he did in AFL, he can play anywhere he wants ! BA - .373 plus over 50 walks; OPS - .936 ; SB - Over 70; and less than 50 SO if he gets 500 AB. AFL pitching was terrible
tarheeltwinsfan Verified Member Posted January 11, 2023 Posted January 11, 2023 1 minute ago, DJL44 said: AFL pitching was terrible I was just responding to Stringer who said: "If Martin hits like he did in the AFL".
sampleSizeOfOne Verified Member Posted January 12, 2023 Posted January 12, 2023 16 hours ago, ashbury said: "I say we kill him." "I say we hang him, then we kill him." "I say we stomp him, then we tattoo him, then we hang him, and then we kill him." "I say we let him go." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Z0VMI67a4Y Apparently the "let him goes" won this round.
wsnydes Old-Timey Member Posted January 12, 2023 Posted January 12, 2023 16 hours ago, LA VIkes Fan said: In the words of Hedley Lamarr as he addressed the gang of cut throats, murderers, etc. about to attack Rock Ridge - "Men, you are about to embark on a great crusade to stamp out rampant decency in the west. Now you men will only be risking your lives, Whilst I will be risking an almost certain Academy Award nomination for best supporting actor. " I say we sign him if only for stirring pre-game speeches. Now I expect LaMarre to yell "Now go do that voodoo that you do" before the team runs out onto the field at the start of every game.
Riverbrian Old-Timey Member Posted January 12, 2023 Posted January 12, 2023 Kyle can hit. We all saw it... He can hit. Unfortunately he was never allowed to hit against right handers. This has reduced his value to nearly nothing as a short side platoon guy. This roster can't afford to retain a short side platoon guy. The OF currently consists of: One Superstar (Buxton) who struggles to stay healthy. Two vets (Gallo and Kepler) that we HOPE rebound from two year slumps. One guy (Gordon) with a one decent year under his belt. Four young players (Kirilloff, Larnach, Wallner, Celestino) who haven't yet accomplished as much as Nick Gordon has at the MLB Level. We need Kirilloff, Larnach and Gordon to compete with Gallo and Kepler in case Gallo and Kepler turn into 3 year slumps. All of the outfield 26 man roster spots need to belong to players who are contenders for playing time to compete against each other to find a player who helps us win. Garlick will never be allowed to be a contender for playing time because he has been made a specialist and hardened in that role over the course of 4 years. It isn't his fault that he was turned into a specialist but he has been so therefore... very little value to us and others. He is the obvious choice.
Brad.dahlen Verified Member Posted January 12, 2023 Posted January 12, 2023 Have to get a RH veteran bat to add to the bench. Mancini or Cutch would be my targets unless you can add one through trade. How about Miami throws in Avisail Garcia on a trade for Lopez? We give up Arraez and a prospect or two,
Riverbrian Old-Timey Member Posted January 12, 2023 Posted January 12, 2023 19 hours ago, stringer bell said: I thought the team should have non-tendered him and essentially this is the result. If someone wants to give the Twins something for him, that is great. If not, thanks for your efforts Kyle. This makes it more certain that Celestino will be on the Opening Day roster unless they bring in someone new. I hope the Twins can find someone who has a better chance to hit than Celestino and perhaps someone who could serve as a pinch runner and actually take an extra base or swipe a bag. If Martin can hit like he did in the AFL, I think he is a better fit than Celestino. If this gives Celestino an opening day 26 man spot. I'd almost rather keep Garlick and give Correa back to the Mets. I said... Almost ? Celestino was nowhere near MLB ready last year. He's 23 years old with options with potential development in front of him. Rostering him to replace Garlick on the short side of a platoon will kill his career. Rostering him to be a defensive specialist who doesn't play much will kill his career. If he has no current value and no future shelf life. He doesn't need to be on the 40 man at all. Rostering him just to roster him will waste any potential development with that roster spot. Start him in AAA and give him a chance to get better. Let him show that he is ready, that he deserves a call up when an injury occurs.
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