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  1. I agree with everything here...........except.........the buck stops with Jim Pohlad. These are his people, hand picked by him and supported by him. He oversees everything in this organization, and has the final say in who runs it. The FO, as we know it, is still run by JP. Every one works for him. He is the only one who can change things. And this extremely humble observer doesn't think he will.
  2. As Harry Truman once said, "the buck stops here", meaning that eventually the responsibility for the actions (or lack of them) of the people he put in place rested with him, as he was the one who put them in place and was supposed to oversee their work. If it is ap ra po for the President to accept responsibility, it should also rest on the owner of a franchise who, also, puts people into place and is the overseer of their work. There are mistakes and missteps to go around, as Cody points out, but the buck has to stop with JP. And only JP can make the changes necessary to improve the team going forward, either by putting better people in place, or by demanding more, and demanding accountability out of the people already in place. What say you, JP? Where does the Twins buck stop? (and I don't mean Byron)
  3. Point well taken, and it is true. But your car being valuable in and of itself doesn't get you anything but offers for that car. It doesn't take you anywhere else. A car that leads a fleet, and leads it to the winners circle, will get the award because without it, the fleet finishes lower. Your collection is what it is, even with the best car; it will never win anything as a collection. Being the best (which I don't give to either one because their roles are completely different and they both excel at their roles) individual doesn't make you the most valuable leader, leading your team to heights higher than they would have reached without you. The whole time Trout was considered the best player in the game the team didn't win, anymore than they are winning now. I could make a case that without Clase, Cleveland wouldn't be in the playoffs. Houston, on the other hand, is stacked; no one player is making a difference because their talent runs too deep. Without any one of them the team still wins. The Yankees can't say that about Judge, and Cleveland can't say that about Clase. Just being the best is not what the award is about; again, it's not the player of the year award. It is supposed to go to the player who was the difference maker between where they are and where they would have been, and without Ohtani they would have finished below Texas and still above Oakland. Not much of a difference. Judge may have literally carried his team to the division title. Without him they would still have made the playoffs in some manner, but without him they do not win the number of games they did. As much as I love to have a give and take, I learn a lot from all the articles and feedbacks, this one is such a no brainer I don't get why it came up.
  4. That may very well be true, but you are right about not being MVP. The MVP is solely, SOLELY, for the most VALUABLE player. Would the Yankees win the division without Judge? Would the Angels be........oh, I don't know, in 4th place instead of 3rd, if they didn't have Ohtani? This is NOT the player of the year award, it is the most valuable. Where would this player's team be without him? I don't know how this is even a discussion.
  5. Apparently we read the original post I responded to in two different ways. You are entitled to agree, and you are entitled to the opinion that Rocco is the man going forward. But I have to infer from that that you are comfortable with the last two years, because the 2 go hand in hand. Can't say I don't like the last 2 years, but want the leader of those years back for more of the same. Some of us aren't comfortable with the recent performances, hence the give and take, which I like because it keeps the interest alive.
  6. Is it safe to assume that this is at least somewhat tongue in cheek? The two points that were made are so far apart, I just can't assume anything else. I Love the philosophy you used, Rocco, but to use the philosophy, you better have something you don't have, so you should adjust accordingly, and you didn't........seriously, I know I couldn't have made that up
  7. I am somewhat torn on this one. I do not believe that Falvey and Levine are not committed to winning, but I also believe you cannot separate them from Pohlad. The front office, so to speak, is a combination of ownership and the executives ownership puts in place to carry out ownership's vision. They, then, put in place a manager and staff that takes that vision to the dugout and field game in and game out. There are times I question JP's commitment to winning, per se, meaning all in toward that goal. That puts constraints on his executives, who can't give the field management the tools to go full bore with. But, at the end of the day, the FO is responsible for the people who manage the game from the dugout, and the manager is responsible for the game decisions he makes throughout. There is an old saying that when everyone is in charge of something, no one is. We keep lumping together these folks as a group that all work and think together, meaning no ONE individual is ultimately responsible for anything, from JP down to Rocco and everyone in between. Convenient, don't you think, that no ONE ever has to take the blame, but every ONE gets the credit when things go well?
  8. I understand your take as well, Scouts have been taking and keeping notes on opposing teams and players and keeping them in notebooks since the 1800's. They would go over the pitcher that day and the opposing lineup before coming out on the field for warmups, and keep reminding themselves throughout the game, especially as relief pitchers or substitutes in the lineup came in. Today we put those notes into a computer and spit out spread sheets we call analytics. The difference is, in this extremely humble observer's opinion, that teams are more wedded to the plan going in, and less willing to change the plan as the game progresses. There was much more of an eye test back in the day to compliment the plan going in than we might see today. In game and, for that matter, in series adjustments to the plan are what this EHO sees lacking and sorely needed. I, and others, question Rocco's willingness and/or ability to adjust game by game, inning by inning, at bat by at bat, and even pitch by pitch. Someone more able and/or willing to do so would make a difference in this humble observer's opinion.
  9. Sorry, no credit for '20. We went 36-24(.600) in an extremely shortened season. I have said this before; we started this season 30-20 (.600) and faded. No way to know how '20 would have gone, but we cannot assume it would have continued based on the last two years. And since '19, the year of the 307 home runs that we have lived off of for the last 3 years, we are 182-191 including '20. Sorry, but the preponderance of evidence suggests something isn't working. But as for Rocco being back, I not only expected it going into next year, but as the boss said, next year and beyond. Reminds me of the famous words of the great philosopher..........Buzz Lightyear........."to infinity and beyond!" That is our future.
  10. "That’s absolutely worth $10M, we are way better with him in the lineup compared to the alternatives." Yes, when in the lineup means in CF, not when it means DH. The occasional solo HR does not compensate for the .224 average, 34% strike out rate, and low RBI numbers, not for 10M (and from now on it will be 15M). It is worth it when his defense is added to those plate numbers, but he played the field, what, 36 percent of the games? Worth is purely a relative opinion; it is in the eye of the beholder, so to speak. I know, I know, they have the new computer spread sheets figuring out what each win is worth in terms of dollars, etc., but even that is relative. One owner may buy into that, while another owner doesn't, and that determines what contract offers are made to what players through the years. I would submit that JP thought Buck's worth was just as much a matter of fan and clubhouse perception as he did the on the field numbers. And maybe, just maybe, that is the only worth that matters. Just one extremely humble observer's thoughts.
  11. I would agree. When I think about it, Nelson was a big part of the '19 and '20 teams, and his leadership was clearly noticeable. He was traded in '21 and just a memory in '22. Is it just a coincidence that a lot of us have noticed a decline in the focus and the drive this team has shown? Is it just a coincidence that a lot of us have seen what appears to be clear deficiencies in the manager's and coaches abilities to raise this team up to the level needed? Is it just a coincidence?
  12. My father taught me very well the difference between asking a question of someone, and questioning someone. He also taught me the difference between critiquing something or someone, and criticizing the same. What I suggested are critiques and questions, not criticizing, but that is just me. I, for one, never questioned the stats of the young guys coming up; I asked why we aren't producing the "workhorses" the article based its premise on. My critique was we concentrate too hard on strike out stuff, and not enough on stamina and arm build up which would produce guys able to go deeper into games. Others can speak for themselves, but I don't see these questions as negative. Nor do I celebrate 4-5 inning starts as our pitchers come up through the system, because that is all they will be able to do once they get here. The minors is the place to build up strength and durability; once they get to the show it will be much harder. That, to me, is a critique, one that is worth of consideration by those of us who follow the team. But, again, that is just me. I also value the give and take on this site, because that is what keeps the interest alive when the team appears dead.
  13. I am a little lost here; the article began with the premise that we were trying to develop workhorses within our system. Then the pitchers listed had stats that showed a lot of strikeouts, per usual, but where were the innings? Only Varland averaged more than 5 innings a game, and that was not a lot over, unless I missed something. I know I am in a minority here, but if I have to choose between strike outs and innings, please, give me the innings. Far too much intensity and energy is going into striking out people all the time, to the point that pitch counts become everything. Again, did I miss something? From the numbers listed in the article, all I see is the same philosophy on the farm that I see in the show. Where are the workhorses?
  14. While I have no doubt whatsoever that the individual players you mention did their best to fight through the injuries, and individually showed "heart" in their efforts, there is a large difference between individual "heart" and team "heart". Yes, the team is made up of 26 individuals all doing their best to help the team as a whole, but the total body (team) does not show the will, the strength, the thirst, the "heart" needed to overcome individual injuries and down stretches every player will have at one time or another. Individual players still need to produce individual stats to warrant contract extensions, so it takes strong leadership to pull the individuals together as a unit and show the heart a team needs to defeat another team on a consistent basis. And very few players are Nelson Cruz, that can play that role well. It takes the manager, the coaches, and the FO to pick 26 players that fit the mold they are looking for, then do the molding into a cohesive team with the "heart", or desire to succeed under any circumstances. A lot of us just don't see that, especially as this team fades away in the heart (pardon the pun) of a pennant race. Hence, a lot of changes need to be made.
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