Rumor: Carlos Rodon Signs with the New York Yankees

[dxpavelka]

1 hour ago, Brock Beauchamp said:

Passan with the confirmation:

 

Actually  thought he'd get closer to $30 per.

[GNess]

It is wearisome that the Twins can't (means won't) compete in the MLB FA marketplace. Seems that every team with realistic World Series aspirations adds a big FA at least once or twice every few years. The Twins need a new way of looking at success and the pursuit thereof - it's broke and needs to be fixed.

[TJ CPA]

Not a big Rodon guy but after swinging and missing on Correa a deal similar to this would’ve made sense. Offseason is quickly taking a turn for the worse.

[Dman]

Almost 30M per year for 6 years?  No Thanks.  We will see how this one ends up but that Yankee rotation looks really, really good right now.  They are going to be a team to be reckoned with if they stay healthy.

[Mike Sixel]

2 minutes ago, GNess said:

It is wearisome that the Twins can't (means won't) compete in the MLB FA marketplace. Seems that every team with realistic World Series aspirations adds a big FA at least once or twice every few years. The Twins need a new way of looking at success and the pursuit thereof - it's broke and needs to be fixed.

They can compete for the second tier players. Unfortunately, most of those are now gone also....while they waited on CC? I'm not sure what the deal is. They also passed on the second tier of FAs last year, so maybe it isn't about CC....but signing only inexpensive players in FA, then dealing prospects every spring (they are going to run out of prospects if this is the plan).

[Irishman]

53 minutes ago, Steve71 said:

Rodon rebuffed the Twins overtures 2 years in a row.  He was never coming here, folks.

No elite pitchers like Rodon, Gerrit and others don’t want to come play for the Twins!  
 

[nicksaviking]

Lost in all this, what happened to our local reporters? Why aren’t we getting info on what the hell is going on via tough questions to those in charge?

Seemed in past years we’d at least get some crumbs tossed our way.

[Mike Sixel]

Just now, nicksaviking said:

Lost in all this, what happened to our local reporters? Why aren’t we getting info on what the hell is going on via tough questions to those in charge?

Seemed in past years we’d at least get some crumbs tossed our way.

hahahahahahahaha. Good one. Tough questions. I am still laughing. 

[nicksaviking]

6 minutes ago, Mike Sixel said:

hahahahahahahaha. Good one. Tough questions. I am still laughing. 

Tough or not, Wolfson and E Neal have provided nothing but silence. Are they still covering the Twins? Is Dan Hayes, who’s with The Athletic, all we got now?

[Parfigliano]

38 minutes ago, Irishman said:

No elite pitchers like Rodon, Gerrit and others don’t want to come play for the Twins!  
 

Pretty sure Gray doesnt want to be a Twin now because of the twice through the order policy

[nicksaviking]

5 minutes ago, Parfigliano said:

Pretty sure Gray doesnt want to be a Twin now because of the twice through the order policy

He averaged one fewer out than he did with the Reds. 

[ashbury]

1 hour ago, dxpavelka said:

Actually  thought he'd get closer to $30 per.

They spread the cost across 6 years instead of 5. 

[USAFChief]

Not at all surprised Rodon to the Yankees, and not really disappointed he's not a Twin. 

I don't think he would have been a good gamble  nor do I think it was realistic to think he would come here when he had other options. 

I don't think it makes sense to dump a ton of money into Swanson either.  

JD Martinez, and some serious bullpen help. Pray for health and help from the minors, and thwt 90 wins takes the ALC. 

And set about fixing the fact free agents don't want to come to Minnesota.  Not sure how, but that's an issue.

[DJL44]

2 hours ago, tony&rodney said:

Happ, Shoemaker, Bundy, Archer, etc. What does it add up to?

You left out locking up Randy Dobnak with the only contract longer than 2 years they have given to a pitcher.

[tony&rodney]

9 minutes ago, DJL44 said:

You left out locking up Randy Dobnak with the only contract longer than 2 years they have given to a pitcher.

I laughed out loud. The Dobber could come back. Did Dick Bremer say that? How could I forget? I wonder if the Twins will forget to decline his three option years because they forgot about him too. A little $21.5 M extra for Dobnak. Now that would be sweet.

[gunnarthor]

It would really be nice if we had a pitching pipeline about now.

[Vanimal46]

1 hour ago, nicksaviking said:

Tough or not, Wolfson and E Neal have provided nothing but silence. Are they still covering the Twins? Is Dan Hayes, who’s with The Athletic, all we got now?

LEN 3 is the new Patrick Reusse for the Star Tribune. No longer a beat writer, just a columnist. Dan Hayes, Aaron Gleeman, Betsy Helfand, Do-Hyoung Park. That’s what we got. 

Edit: Also, we’ve never, ever had a beat writer ask the tough questions. It’s always been a country club at 1 Twins Way. 

[USAFChief]

2 hours ago, nicksaviking said:

Lost in all this, what happened to our local reporters? Why aren’t we getting info on what the hell is going on via tough questions to those in charge?

Seemed in past years we’d at least get some crumbs tossed our way.

Why aren't TD owners/writers asking tough questions?

[adorduan]

41 minutes ago, USAFChief said:

Why aren't TD owners/writers asking tough questions?

Careful there Chief.....?

[Lasorda_This_Out]

Arms are just a dime a dozen? Rodon would not have moved the needle on a Twins rotation? Internal...reclamations..Rule 5 acquistions are the key to building a sustainable, winning franchise? And a few shrewd trades.

Go Twins!

[h2oface]

Rodon Schmodon. 

We lost out on Tommy Milone, too. 

 

[TwinsDr2021]

6 hours ago, Lasorda_This_Out said:

Arms are just a dime a dozen? Rodon would not have moved the needle on a Twins rotation? Internal...reclamations..Rule 5 acquistions are the key to building a sustainable, winning franchise? And a few shrewd trades.

Go Twins!

And the proof of that is the Twins record the last  5 years, oh wait.....

[jmlease1]

7 hours ago, Vanimal46 said:

LEN 3 is the new Patrick Reusse for the Star Tribune. No longer a beat writer, just a columnist. Dan Hayes, Aaron Gleeman, Betsy Helfand, Do-Hyoung Park. That’s what we got. 

Edit: Also, we’ve never, ever had a beat writer ask the tough questions. It’s always been a country club at 1 Twins Way. 

You sound like you're listening to Dan Barreiro too much. Never take your cues from a guy who targets players based on whether they come on to his show or not, thinks that walks don't matter for hitters, and uses RBIs as his most important hitting statistic.

[TopGunn#22]

With the exception of Correa the Twins have never been able to land a big time, top tier FA.  It was remarkable that we did last year.  But I'm all in with the philosophy that if the Twins will never truly be players for the upper tier, we should be swimming in the 2nd tier where you have to be serious bidders but some tremendous signings can be found.  Nellie Cruz was one of those signings.  This FO has never seemed to have any kind of "plan" going into the off season.  And when the music stops, they are chasing after bargain basement players like Shoemaker, Happ, Bundy and Archer.  We will have to live and die on our prospect capital, and occasionally trade from that capital to fill a needed weak spot.  Looking ahead, one thing is clear to me.  We won't be in the Ohtani sweepstakes next year.  If 2023 bombs it would be great to see a new FO.  But the Pohlads always move very slowly.

[rv78]

I wonder if Rodon was waiting to see if the Twins got Correa before making his decision? Probably not but coincidently he signs with another club almost immediately after Correa goes elsewhere. If you don't land big fish once in a while the other big fish are going to keep swimming past you. It's all about committment. To putting a winning team on the field. Yankees sign Judge, Twins don't sign Correa. Rodon chooses ? The big spenders are Contenders. The Twins are Pretenders.

[MABB1959]

12 hours ago, Azviking101 said:

Time to burn it all to the ground. Can’t force Pohlads to sell but can bring in a FO with a pulse and a plan. 
 

The most embarrassing offseason in years. Only way to improve team now is decimate the 23rd ranked farm system. 
wow, just wow 

Same old thing every year, fans start out with expectations (not high) but expectations.   We watch players go off the table and then have to wait for the scraps.  I 100% knew Correa would not stay as I am sure the front office did so they could say or at least put on the appearance of trying.  

[MABB1959]

10 minutes ago, rv78 said:

I wonder if Rodon was waiting to see if the Twins got Correa before making his decision? Probably not but coincidently he signs with another club almost immediately after Correa goes elsewhere. If you don't land big fish once in a while the other big fish are going to keep swimming past you. It's all about committment. To putting a winning team on the field. Yankees sign Judge, Twins don't sign Correa. Rodon chooses ? The big spenders are Contenders. The Twins are Pretenders.

Not even pretenders.   

[MABB1959]

26 minutes ago, TopGunn#22 said:

With the exception of Correa the Twins have never been able to land a big time, top tier FA.  It was remarkable that we did last year.  But I'm all in with the philosophy that if the Twins will never truly be players for the upper tier, we should be swimming in the 2nd tier where you have to be serious bidders but some tremendous signings can be found.  Nellie Cruz was one of those signings.  This FO has never seemed to have any kind of "plan" going into the off season.  And when the music stops, they are chasing after bargain basement players like Shoemaker, Happ, Bundy and Archer.  We will have to live and die on our prospect capital, and occasionally trade from that capital to fill a needed weak spot.  Looking ahead, one thing is clear to me.  We won't be in the Ohtani sweepstakes next year.  If 2023 bombs it would be great to see a new FO.  But the Pohlads always move very slowly.

I was so disappointed when they let Cruz go.  Not sure if he even wanted to stay.  I bet it is the dream of every decent Twins player to get traded.  Probably the equivalent of being promoted from AA to the MLB.   I get frustrated when I see “trade Arraez for….” posts.   He is a batting champion!!!!!

 

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[Minny505]

12 hours ago, whosafraidofluigirussolo said:

Since there have been reports that Rodón preferred to go to the Yankees, another team may have had to beat this deal at least by a bit — I'm not sure I would have wanted the Twins to go higher on both dollars and years, but $1M more per year, or a 7th year on its own? Sure, that seems reasonable, especially considering what they were willing to offer Correa.

Reports were mainly that he wanted to go to a winner, which is why he didn't even really give the Giants a shot.

I sure hope the Twins offered more than 6/162. That's a very reasonable contract for a pitcher who is one of the Top 10 SPs in MLB per IP.

[Dave The Dastardly]

15 hours ago, gman said:

Of his 6 years what are the odds that 3 are healthy?

50/50