Blowing It Up: Twins Trade Carlos Correa Back to Houston Astros, to Save Money

[tony&rodney]

2 minutes ago, nicksaviking said:

I really could care less if they get rid of Correa's contract. Looking at next year's free agent class the only guys I'd want are Alex Bregman, Pete Alonso, Kyle Tucker or Kyle Scwarber. Even it the Twins offered top dollar, are any of them even going to consider going to a rebuilding team that is showing clear train-wreck tendencies?

Zero chance. None of these players would even grant an interview with the Twins FO.

[CRF]

I'm looking forward to Falvey's presser on all this. It'll be real interesting to hear what he has to say. 

[Muppet]

Not sad or embittered about this at all. Great way to get out of what turned out to be a terrible signing. 

[BH67]

13 minutes ago, farmerguychris said:

I know he hasn't been as productive as we would have wished - but we KNOW this salary dump won't  be reinvested in the team.

Pohlads sure make it hard to be a fan.

😠

Not by the Pohlads, certainly. But if LaVelle Neal's info is accurate, that era will soon end, followed hopefully by the departures of Falvey and Baldelli. Until the ownership and team leadership changes, nothing here merits optimism. First things first.

Wishing CC4 the best in his homecoming.

[tony&rodney]

There must be a precedent for a sell-off this deep, but I cannot think of one.

[big dog]

2 minutes ago, tony&rodney said:

The Saints have had a tough time competing in the International League (14th) this year. How are they going to do in the American League in the next two months?

 

Going to see the Saints is going to cost a lot more now, but you will get nicer seats.

[tarheeltwinsfan]

Thanks for the memories Carlos. You were the best SS I every saw play for Minnesota. You were the epidemy of a professional baseball player. I wish you and your family much success and happiness in Houston.

[shimrod]

16 minutes ago, farmerguychris said:

Bobby Nightengale reports deal involves other MLB players?  Who else did we send them to take on that contract?

I don't expect we'll like the answer. 

[C-Gangster]

Ik this may seem stupid because the twins usually do this but I'm having a panic attack right now. Correa just meant a lot to me I never got to meet him but I have met his teammates. Also I know how much me meant to the Twins their fans and the club house. It's just really sad to see him to go it's just he meant a lot and I hope he did to every twins fan and I wish him the best.

[Baumer67]

Would have been cheaper to watch the the Twins AAA in St Paul yesterday then to watch them at Target Field.  They should lower the ticket prices!.

[Road trip]

5 minutes ago, tony&rodney said:

There must be a precedent for a sell-off this deep, but I cannot think of one.

The mid 70s A's?  That was really about Charlie Finley refusing to pay players with advent of free agency though, and it didn't happen in one day. (and the A's were actually good)

[Dave Borton]

Smart move. Love it. Gets that liability off the financial books and facilitates a sale.

New owner can come in with low payroll (move over Vazquez) and build club from bottom up in 5-6 years.

[Twodogs]

28 minutes ago, AceBee said:

Didn't see that coming ! Won't be surprised if he flips the switch and suddenly becomes the clutch hitter for Astros down the stretch 

Sometimes it's the environment.

[farmerguychris]

I bet the Pohlads are just LOVING today!  So much money going back into their pockets!!

[Rufus]

24 minutes ago, Rufus said:

Salary dump?  He was not performing up to expectations and his future looked dismal with the Twins. He may be able to rejuvenate his career in Houston  Kind of an albatross off the Twins neck.  This will free up money for the Twins to their sign younger players. 

It isn't how much money the Twins have saved ...it comes down to how they use that money.

[tony&rodney]

1 minute ago, tarheeltwinsfan said:

Thanks for the memories Carlos. You were the best SS I every saw play for Minnesota. You were the epidemy of a professional baseball player. I wish you and your family much success and happiness in Houston.

I also extend well wishes to Correa. Carlos tried to bring a winning culture to the Twins. It doesn't appear as if his vision aligned with Falvey & Sons. The contract was always a stretch but I do not accept that it inhibited the Twins in any fashion in the same manner that Joe Mauer's contract did not inhibit the payroll decisions of his era. 

If people want to know where things went bad, look to the sale to Carl Pohlad in 1984. I'm afraid the sale may take time but a new buyer will be necessary before any light shines on this franchise. 

[laloesch]

24 minutes ago, UK Twin said:

And I'm honestly waiting for the news that Ryan has been traded.

I sure as heck hope not.

[CoachDW]

The Bob Nightengale tweet stated "other major league players involved in the mega-deal". I'm sure the Twins are still looking to get rid of the Castro & Vazquez contracts. Vazquez back to the Astros?

[laloesch]

Just now, tony&rodney said:

I also extend well wishes to Correa. Carlos tried to bring a winning culture to the Twins. It doesn't appear as if his vision aligned with Falvey & Sons. The contract was always a stretch but I do not accept that it inhibited the Twins in any fashion in the same manner that Joe Mauer's contract did not inhibit the payroll decisions of his era. 

If people want to know where things went bad, look to the sale to Carl Pohlad in 1984. I'm afraid the sale may take time but a new buyer will be necessary before any light shines on this franchise. 

His vision maybe but his play was atrocious as a Twin.  He was non existent every season from April - May and August - September.  I'm relieved the Astros wanted him back so badly.  Carlos Correa was a double play machine and a momentum killer in the lineup for much of the past 2 seasons.

[tony&rodney]

6 minutes ago, Road trip said:

The mid 70s A's?  That was really about Charlie Finley refusing to pay players with advent of free agency though, and it didn't happen in one day. (and the A's were actually good)

True. Yes, it took place over time. Bowie Kuhn even stepped in and forbid a trade to be completed.

[JDubs]

This one really hurts. Been a fan my entire life and this is the first actual, genuine star free agent they've ever signed and they chuck him out a few years later in a gross salary dump. The Pohlads cannot sell soon enough.

[Loops]

It is difficult to be a Twins fan. We are going back to a farm club. Rebuilding. Whatever you wish to call it we will not be competitive for years. Just when you get fooled and we get close to competing and money is spent, they destroy it all. I do not wish to see them relocate, but it does make things difficult to stomach. Management doesn't even seem to want to try and compete.

[laloesch]

6 minutes ago, Dave Borton said:

Smart move. Love it. Gets that liability off the financial books and facilitates a sale.

New owner can come in with low payroll (move over Vazquez) and build club from bottom up in 5-6 years.

yep.

[BillyBallLives]

The Minnesota Twins are one messed up organization...border line horrid. 

[howeda7]

14 minutes ago, CRF said:

I'm looking forward to Falvey's presser on all this. It'll be real interesting to hear what he has to say. 

There will be many words but nothing will be said.

[laloesch]

15 minutes ago, Muppet said:

Not sad or embittered about this at all. Great way to get out of what turned out to be a terrible signing. 

Yep.  It wasn't just terrible it turned out to be a horrible signing.  Carlos Correa was horrendous for the Twins the last 2-1/2 years.  His offensive droughts legendary and intolerable for the amount of money he was making.  Not a key cog to build a team around.  

[tony&rodney]

Just now, laloesch said:

yep.

It is true that the Twins will be building from the bottom. Sure hope it goes well. 

[Riverbrian]

I've been saying all yesterday and today: This is what selling looks like. 

After the Correa deal.

I take that back. 

This one shocked me. 

[laloesch]

1 minute ago, tony&rodney said:

It is true that the Twins will be building from the bottom. Sure hope it goes well. 

Yeah and then we'll see how good Falvey is or ISN'T.

[FlyingFinn]

6 minutes ago, CoachDW said:

I'm sure the Twins are still looking to get rid of the Castro & Vazquez contracts. Vazquez back to the Astros?

I'm thinking Castro as he was already linked. Plus, he's not listed as traded yet.