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True, but to be fair those conflicting arguments could be from different commenters. Those who wanted Jenkins for the playoff drive can argue he should have been elevated sooner. Multiple week watching an injured Buxton flail could instead have been the adjustment period for Jenkins. Perhaps he'd be settling in by now. Personally I never saw this as a playoff team. My preference was to sell at the deadline, adding young talent and clearing spots for prospects like Jenkins.
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Reportedly Jenkins has a history of needing an adjustment period. That's why it was imperative to get him up and acclimated now. Ideally he is adjusted and ready to hit the ground running next year. EDIT: I don't see any argument that promoting Jenkins cost the team a shot at the playoffs. It's not like they benched a healthy Buxton. Who was going to fill that position and do substantially better than Jenkins? Kreidler?
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But we made such a massive investment at the deadline! Go big or go home, shouldn't that have paid off?
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The Twins have already won more games than I expected this season. It's been a pleasure to watch them win as many as they have. Winning is fun. Shelton has elevated this team. He's a mediocre tactician but appears to set clear roles and expectations. No more lineup bingo. I don't like seeing players trying to learn new positions on the fly but to be fair the players moved weren't looking great at their original positions. Royce shows potential to be a plus defensive 1B, Lee is better at third than short, and Keaschall just wasn't working out at second. The problem isn't that the team collapsed. The problem is ownership/management moving the timeline based on a better than expected (lucky) few months of baseball. This years deadline was an opportunity to finish the job started last season - trade away expiring veterans, rentals, and a couple surplus outfielders to add youth and clear the field for the prospects.
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If Keaschall can become even average defensively we'll really have something. Second base is likely to be Culpepper sooner or later so an offseason of outfield work is in order. Lots of outfield work.
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Yes, most teams work within their budget. Aside from the occasional new owner who subsidizes the payroll with his own cash (Mets) expenses have to match up with revenue. What's done with the revenue is the difference. Are you trying to build a winner or are you maximizing cash flow? Long term vision or short term profit? I don't think many experienced baseball executives are interested in the latter. Twins ownership has already signaled they're looking at the short term. I don't see a proven executive signing on just to boost the teams sale price.
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I expect an experienced baseball executive plans how to win. Tell him the goal is to maximize profit and he finds another team to work for. EDIT: To be clear, it's my belief that the swap of owner overseers and subsequent talk about competing, along with the (minimal) increase in payroll has everything to do with the drop in revenue and ticket sales. Ownership would be perfectly happy living in the basement of the abysmal AL central as long as the money kept rolling in. Much to their dismay fans are reluctant to turn out and watch a team that isn't trying.
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6 bats is three more than we're accustomed to. The real disappointment is that the guys struggling should be team leaders. A playoff push is when your core veterans should shine - instead we're leaning on rentals and rookies.
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This is where the Twins get it wrong. You're better off overpaying for an actually productive player than fielding an entire team of low cost players who cannot produce. Sure, you can't stock the entire team with overpriced players (unless you're the dodgers) but a couple don't hurt that much. No where near as much as the regular demoralizing losses. We're still paying Houston $10M/yr for relieving us of our last scratch and dent acquisition. Compared to that contract Jeffers for a year looks pretty good. EDIT: And let me add, my strong preference was to trade Jeffers at the deadline. Offering him the QO is a bad second option. I say it's better than letting him walk for nothing at all.
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I think it was a comment from another sport, but if I recall correctly an executive once said "There is no such thing as a bad one year contract." I was in favor of trading Jeffers at the deadline, but having missed that opportunity the QO is an absolute must. Ideally Jeffers declines it but if accepted what's the downside? The Twins have to actually pay a player what he's worth? After decades of acquiring scratch and dent players at scratch and dent prices it won't kill the team to just this once pay market rate for a productive player.
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Elevating KC was supposed to improve our defense. Last night was the first time I've seen him play and he was flat out bad. Really hoping that was first game nerves. The team is running out of positions to hide defensive liabilities.
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Royals 2, Twins 1: A Duo of Decent Debuts Ends in Defeat
shimrod replied to Cory Moen's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Sure they can, and should. Thinking they are in the race is the problem. Twins needed to sell, not buy. I've been enjoying the team playing over their heads much of the season; I like seeing them win. I do, however, realize they're playing over their heads and would never have traded away prospects in an effort to polish a turd.- 66 replies
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Agree on all points. Twins should have been selling.
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Twins (Ryan) Vs Royals (Dobnak) 8/4/26 6:40 CDT
shimrod replied to Mortimerkenny21's topic in Archived Game Threads
Guardians calling up a rookie tomorrow . Yankees did yesterday. Those teams are clearly not as well run. To be fair, Rodney29 was giving his opinion of what the Twins won't do, not what he would or wouldn't do. I don't see any indication he meant to argue the Twins are well run. -
Twins (Ryan) Vs Royals (Dobnak) 8/4/26 6:40 CDT
shimrod replied to Mortimerkenny21's topic in Archived Game Threads
Nothing like a successful deadline to fire up the team. Woof. -
Royals (Cameron) vs Twins (Ober): 7/30/26, 12:40pm
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Perhaps Walker is included in the upcoming Skubal trade.
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Baseball Gods to Tom Pohlad: 'Aight, Bet'
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Twins adding salary? I think you meant to post this in "Just for Fun".- 128 replies
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How the Red Sox Changed Everything for the Twins
shimrod replied to Matthew Taylor's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
It has nothing to do with being good or bad. The best managers in baseball get fired. It has to do with relationships getting stale and getting a new voice in the clubhouse. We'll never know if firing Rocco earlier would have pulled the Twins out of the doldrums, but it was certainly worth a shot. The fact multiple Twins regulars have looked better under Shelton is a clue.

