Charleo

So to be clear, if there's no 2027 season the contracts for that year just disappear? Asking for real, not being sarcastic

It's a year and a half. He's not eligible for free agency until after 2027. Makes him incredibly valuable as a trade asset.

Huh?? Why would the consensus #3 player in the draft take under slot for going 3rd? If we don't pick him, he goes 4th, dude. What a weird take.....

This. There's a reason this team is first in the AL and has terrible attendance. No one wants to (or should) give their money to this guy or anyone in his family. The team is doing well due to some great young pitching, timely hitting, etc. Not because Tom is around more. I love the Twins, but I'll be watching them in Milwaukee this year. A $2 can of watery beer doesn't make up for gutting the team and basically running it back with what's left over. Sell. The. Team.

Yes, he has, several times. He's made the point that if you don't tear down the team by slashing payroll, those increased fan numbers can compound over time. What if we didn't slash payroll, were still good, and increased attendance for a 2nd year, then a 3rd year, and so on? Do you see how this works? A good product over time builds trust that the product will be continuously good, thus creating and maintaining 'fans' of said product. And how many lifelong fans did they possibly miss out on creating over these years? It all builds, man. No one said that 350,000 extra fans would pay for Player X. It doesn't even work that way. I'm not sure how anyone else can explain this to you. Seems you either just want to argue or you're Tom Pohlad's kid.

If Jenkins, Culpepper, Rodriguez etc were the "young guys" I think the sentiment would be different. We're talking Wallner, Julien, Clemens, Gasper, Larnach, etc. None of them inspire much excitement and don't count as "young", in my opinion...

Did we just get rid of our entire scouting department?? I understand scouting isn't what it used to be, but this appears to be another cost-cutting move. That playoff series win of 2023 feels like a different decade. I'm not sure how they are expecting to keep fans? How loyal can a person be? It's one thing to suffer through some losing years, never get a big free agent (I guess outside of Correa), etc. It's another thing completely when the owners go out of their way to make the fan experience worse in every possible way to save what amounts to pennies to them. I have watched the Twins for 40 years and never have I been less interested or more discouraged. And this counts the contraction days. With the stadium they were given, the Pohlad's have no excuses other than they ran this team into the ground. Again. Living in Madison, watching the Brewers thrive with less, is both infuriating and enticing.

Maybe we can also retire the conversations from guys who are only on here to give others a hard time about their post. That is considerably more tired than the post you are criticizing.... .

I may be wrong, but my understanding is the debt is the Twins, but it's not FROM the Twins. I read the Pohlad's basically fail at everything and use the Twins to borrow against to prop up other failing ventures. Again, happy to be corrected if this is inaccurate.

Using your argument, we didn't miss out on Painter either, as Philly wouldn't budge on him.

The Twins are not, and have never been, a small town team. Depending how market size is determined, Minneapolis/St.Paul is between the 11th and 15th largest market in MLB. The Pohlad's have conditioned us to think we are small market because they function as small town (cheap) owners.

Seeing what the A's got for Miller (and Sears)....I'm even more disappointed. Duran is better than Miller and they got the 3rd best prospect in baseball plus others. Ugh....

Those are all fair points. Can we agree that Falvey and the Pohlad's are both to blame? Also, sorry for the assumption I was feeling a bit punchy that particular day.....

Thanks analogy expert. I'm assuming you're the guy that also takes time out of your day to correct people's spelling. Also, Falvey didn't just take this job this year. He's had winters where he could spend. He was able to sign Correa (twice) over the last several years, so your comment doesn't make sense either. I would say this offseason is much different

Thanks for the clarification, Cory! Less than $5M for this year makes much more sense. Still too much, but not as bad.