Cody Christie Twins Daily Contributor Posted October 21, 2021 Posted October 21, 2021 Nelson Cruz has been one of the Twins' best hitters over the last two seasons. However, his performance declined after Minnesota traded him. Will the Twins consider a Cruz reunion this winter? It's hard to fathom just how valuable Nelson Cruz was during his time as a Twin. It was clear what he could provide with his on-field performance, but he meant just as much off the field. In parts of three seasons, he hit .304/.386/.598 (.984) with a 162 OPS+. His Twins tenure started with the record-breaking Bomba Squad and ended with him traded for two pitching prospects that look to be part of the team's long-term plans. Cruz seemed to be defying Father Time over the last handful of seasons. That was one of the reasons the Twins were able to sign him for $13 million this past winter. After being traded to the Rays, age might have started to catch up to Cruz. In 55 games, he hit .226/.283/.442 with 21 extra-base hits. In the ALDS, he went 3-for-17 with a home run before Tampa was eliminated. Players over 40 rarely find success, and those that do are Hall of Fame-caliber hitters. According to FanGraphs, Cruz's 2021 season ranks as the 17th best age-40 season in baseball history. This performance ranks him ahead of future Hall of Famers like Reggie Jackson (21st), Craig Biggio (24th), Paul Molitor (25th), and Derek Jeter (26th). Many of those players declined significantly after age-40 or decided to retire. Minnesota can go in a few different directions for 2022 and beyond when it comes to designated hitter. Bringing Cruz back is undoubtedly an option, but it seems more likely for the team to go in an alternate direction. The Twins have players like Josh Donaldson, Miguel Sano, and Brent Rooker, who can rotate through the DH role. It seems likely for Sano to get the majority of those at-bats with Alex Kirilloff taking over as the full-time first baseman. Another wrinkle in a Cruz reunion is the good chance that the National League adds the designated hitter. Minnesota had little competition to sign Cruz last winter because only the American League had the DH, and not every AL team was looking to be competitive or had an open DH role. Cruz can fill at least a part-time DH role on a contending NL team that feels like he has something left in the tank. Cruz has provided immeasurable value to the Twins organization, and his impact will be felt long after he retires from baseball. Questions remain about whether or not the Twins will be contenders in 2022. This makes it easier to pass on the possibility of a Cruz reunion. Will the Twins explore a Nelson Cruz reunion? Leave a COMMENT and start the discussion. MORE FROM TWINS DAILY — Latest Twins coverage from our writers — Recent Twins discussion in our forums — Follow Twins Daily via Twitter, Facebook or email View full article
beckmt Verified Member Posted October 21, 2021 Posted October 21, 2021 I agree on two points, NL will probably have a DH. Twins have other options and players in the majors. We need to rotate them through the DH slot. We may also need the DH slot for Sano for about 1/2 the time. darwin22, mikelink45 and RpR 2 1
mikelink45 Old-Timey Member Posted October 21, 2021 Posted October 21, 2021 Just like Greinke - time to move on. Age is not negotiable and we have enough bats to fill the DH/1B/corner OF slots. He was great to have on our team, but like Thome he has only so much gas left in the tank at this stage and if you remember he left us mid season for a contender just like Cruz and then the next year he was on three different teams and called it quits. Time for the old song - Thanks for the memories - tarheeltwinsfan, bighat, darwin22 and 3 others 5 1
Doctor Gast Verified Member Posted October 21, 2021 Posted October 21, 2021 Good question. It'd be great if they could work it out. But I doubt if they will.
Harrison Greeley III Verified Member Posted October 21, 2021 Posted October 21, 2021 Cruz needs to do the right thing. He needs to sign with the White Sox and be a shadow of himself like a good Twins hall of famer. bighat, Vanimal46 and tarheeltwinsfan 3
roger Verified Member Posted October 21, 2021 Posted October 21, 2021 Wasn't a huge fan of their signing him three years ago as I thought age was catching up with him. Was I wrong! Lots of reasons to not bring him back, but if they do it has to be on a one year contract. But one reason to bring him back would be if the Twins are say a .500 team or under come late July, could they trade him to another contender for a HUGE return as this year? Guess it depends on the market and how he is hitting, but if the NL has a DH the market would double.
Karbo Verified Member Posted October 21, 2021 Posted October 21, 2021 I'd say it all depends on demand. If there is a change in the DH through the new CBA then there will probably be a high enough demand that the price tag moves the Twins out of the bidding. However, if the DH isn't implemented in the NL then the demand may not be that high and depending on his asking price signing him would be worth considering. As mentioned above, he did so much for the clubhouse that you can't really measure. Was he in decline so much at the end of the season or did the trade and new surrounding just mess with him a bit. He said he loved it here and maybe that made a difference in how well he performed? I only know, I for one would love to see him back. RpR 1
Sousy Verified Member Posted October 21, 2021 Posted October 21, 2021 It seems that signing a full-time DH is (and should be) on the bottom of the priority list. Next year they'll be in a position (assuming no trades / moves) there are several players that could rotate in and out of the DH slot; and having that spot for players to rotate in and out of in order to allow for a bit of rest without being out of the line up was a pretty good feature in the last half of the year. * Donaldson struggled with being an 'everyday in the field' guy with leg issues; being able to rotate to DH was huge. Being able to rotate Miranda into 3B would be helpful. * Sano is a guy that has struggled with particular scenarios, and it seems that Kirilloff is waiting in the wings to take up some time at 1B, if not become a full time 1B / OF player. * Arraez was in a few spots where having his bat was great, but having his knees in the field full time wasn't. Short story: I like Cruz, would love to see him come back in some role if the desire is there, but it's certainly not something the front office should (or would) put a lot of time / money / priority into. tarheeltwinsfan, darwin22, dex8425 and 3 others 6
farmerguychris Verified Member Posted October 21, 2021 Posted October 21, 2021 I like Nelly as much as the next guy, but for a year that we have so many pitching needs to spend money on - plus have plenty of OF depth that could play the DH role - time to move on. chpettit19 1
071063 Verified Member Posted October 21, 2021 Posted October 21, 2021 I loved Nelson when we had him, but I hope not. I think it would be disappointing. RpR, GV14218 and chpettit19 2 1
RonCoomersOPS Verified Member Posted October 21, 2021 Posted October 21, 2021 I would love it if he came back in a FO/player development role. I wouldn't hate it if he came back as a player either, but I'm not sure we have a full-time spot for him at this point. chpettit19 1
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted October 21, 2021 Posted October 21, 2021 I hope not. Sano. Rooker. Donaldson. Arraez. Larnach. Garver. They have enough guys that can DH (and play other spots). A DH only type is worth it for a team that is on the cusp of being great....maybe. But not on this roster. No way. adorduan, chpettit19, wsnydes and 2 others 5
RedneckRay Verified Member Posted October 21, 2021 Posted October 21, 2021 I love Cruz, and he has provided so so so much value for this franchise, and he will always be loved here. With that being said, I don’t think they will. Sano will get those ABs and while he won’t provide the value that Cruz does, we have him under contract and we need every last penny for pitching. Mike Sixel 1
Stew Verified Member Posted October 21, 2021 Posted October 21, 2021 I'm a big Cruz fan . But we need to realize one thing. Defense on the field matters. Cruz can't help us there. But the problem is Sono can't either. He made more errors than any first baseman in the majors. I think 6 of them were throwing errors. Who does that? Sano at dh. And backup 1st. base. Kirloff to 1st. Or look at trading for someone like a josh bell from Washington?
nicksaviking Community Moderator Posted October 21, 2021 Posted October 21, 2021 He definitely wouldn't be the worst free agent they could sign. But there will be better fits so a reunion just seems like it would be for sentimentality sake. I'd probably be open to keeping the bench coach job warm for him when he's ready for his second career though. RedneckRay, chpettit19, Richie the Rally Goat and 1 other 4
Thegrin Verified Member Posted October 21, 2021 Posted October 21, 2021 I hope the NL adds the DH. This means we can trade (or give away) Donaldson and make room for Garver/Sano to be our DH. This means that the Twins will NOT bring back Cruz (even though he is my wife's favorite player). Oh well. Sometimes wives need to be disappointed for the good of the team. Major League Ready 1
wsnydes Old-Timey Member Posted October 21, 2021 Posted October 21, 2021 Big Cruz fan, but I think the fit isn't there as it has been in years past. Way too many bat first/only guys coming up. There should much bigger priorities than bringing him back.
Richie the Rally Goat Community Moderator Posted October 21, 2021 Posted October 21, 2021 Loved Cruz while he was here, but every nickel of budget and every millisecond of effort by the FO should be spent on pitching and maybe SS. If right before ST there’s some budget left and they filled all the other needs and Cruz is still out there, sign him up. Twins33 and RpR 1 1
dxpavelka Verified Member Posted October 22, 2021 Posted October 22, 2021 On a 1 year deal--why not.........? nddan67 and RpR 2
Trov Verified Member Posted October 22, 2021 Posted October 22, 2021 I would not be upset for another 1 year deal, but I doubt it happens. With the decline on defense of Donaldson and many hit first guys in the wings I think the team moves on to someone else to fill the DH role.
adorduan Verified Member Posted October 22, 2021 Posted October 22, 2021 No. There are plenty of players to give DH at bats to. The odds of him continuing to to defy father time are less every day. Spend the money on Buxton/pitching.
TheLeviathan Old-Timey Member Posted October 23, 2021 Posted October 23, 2021 Agree with Nick....bench coach? Absolutely. DH? No. Richie the Rally Goat 1
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