amjgt Verified Member Posted July 21, 2017 Posted July 21, 2017 Kiriloff and Thorpe are definite a "No" for me. Garver is a no (though I think the Twins should call him up today). Anyone else besides the obvious no's I'd probably be fine with. My guess... Vielma glunn 1
mikelink45 Old-Timey Member Posted July 21, 2017 Posted July 21, 2017 First Colon, now Garcia, maybe we can really negotiate with the Braves and bring in the retired three old HOFs, we choose the wrong Braves team to be our pitching source. David HK 1
amjgt Verified Member Posted July 21, 2017 Posted July 21, 2017 I could also see someone like Randy Rosario or Luke Bard D.C Twins, twinssouth and Oldgoat_MN 3
yarnivek1972 Verified Member Posted July 21, 2017 Posted July 21, 2017 (edited) There seem to be a lot of people saying that people are freaking out, but I'm not really seeing anyone actually freaking out. Couldn't resist. Edited July 21, 2017 by yarnivek1972
Linus Verified Member Posted July 21, 2017 Posted July 21, 2017 I could also see someone like Randy Rosario or Luke BardFor a mediocre rental. If they do that deal Falvine should be immediately fired.
ChrisKnutson Verified Member Posted July 21, 2017 Posted July 21, 2017 If we're gonna go get someone like Garcia (rental) the Twins might as well go get one rental relief pitcher. I'm thinking Addison Reed or Pat Neshek, since both imo seem affordable in terms of prospects. Although I'm not exactly sure what the Mets or the Phil's needs are. And if we go after Reed I definately feel we should add Bartolo Colon to sweeten the deal because if feel the Mets do want him back. Also I don't want someone considering retirement based on how his start against the best team in baseball goes, when we're in middle of a playoff hunt.
Danchat Old-Timey Member Posted July 21, 2017 Posted July 21, 2017 Jaime Garcia is an intriguing add, though his upside is pretty limited. He should fit in as the #4 starter ahead of Gibson and Colon. We have had plenty of pitchers go NL to AL and bust, so that is a concern. This doesn't seem to fit the FO's mantra of "controllable talent over rental players", but obviously every move they make isn't going to reflect this. Hopefully they won't give up too much. Giving up Kiriloff or Garver would be too much, but other considerations like Haley and Melotakis would not happen. I think Blankenhorn would be a fine price to pay, just looking at the stats. Oldgoat_MN 1
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted July 21, 2017 Posted July 21, 2017 So many comments about posters and their feeling. So tiresome. So very tiresome. Shoring up the back or middle of the rotation is a good idea, depending on the cost of course. Did I mention how tiresome it is that people have to constantly comment on posters and their feelings, rather than what is happening? We have a whole thread for that. KirbyDome89, jimmer and Vanimal46 3
Shaitan Verified Member Posted July 21, 2017 Posted July 21, 2017 I can't imagine the Twins give up a SP. You usually don't trade from an area of weakness. Oldgoat_MN and howieramone2 2
Brock Beauchamp Site Manager Posted July 21, 2017 Posted July 21, 2017 its a typical Twins moveThat doesn't make it the wrong move. howieramone2, gunnarthor, glunn and 8 others 11
Twodogs Verified Member Posted July 21, 2017 Posted July 21, 2017 I'm glad the Twins went after someone. The rotation looks better now. Not great, but better bluechipper 1
jimmer Verified Member Posted July 21, 2017 Posted July 21, 2017 That doesn't make it the wrong move.very true.
USAFChief Twins Daily Contributor Posted July 21, 2017 Posted July 21, 2017 This seems to me a reasonable first step. It won't take much to get more from the bottom of the rotation than what they've gotten. I hope they do more. HitInAPinch, glunn, SF Twins Fan and 3 others 6
goulik Verified Member Posted July 21, 2017 Posted July 21, 2017 This small addition also improves the bullpen if he can just allow the bullpen to get more rest between outings gunnarthor, big dog, USAFChief and 6 others 9
SF Twins Fan Verified Member Posted July 21, 2017 Posted July 21, 2017 If this is a top 15 prospect I'll be pretty annoyed. A very average pitcher from the NL isn't something I give up any prospect that has a high ceiling.
mudcat14 Verified Member Posted July 21, 2017 Posted July 21, 2017 (edited) Strictly a guess, but I'll say Alex Robinson or Sam Clay. I think Andrew Vasquez (who we'd better keep) has made either of these loogie relievers expendable. Edited July 21, 2017 by mudcat14 Homer Hanky 1
darin617 Verified Member Posted July 21, 2017 Posted July 21, 2017 Who will be the DFA victim if it's a player not on the 40 man roster? So many choices that could get released not sure where to start.
Richie the Rally Goat Community Moderator Posted July 21, 2017 Posted July 21, 2017 Oh yeah, this place is going to erupt. We apparently have a weak farm system except when we trade someone and we gave up a future HOF. That said, I really hope we aren't trading Baddoo.there is opportunity cost. While I'm in favor of this move, depending on who gets sent, trading away prospects on low wattage moves means you can't package them on a higher wattage move.
Suicide Skweez Provisional Member Posted July 21, 2017 Posted July 21, 2017 I'm a fan of the move if we aren't giving up a priority prospect in the deal. Solid #4 starter that should only help out the rotation. Good example of cautious buying. Oldgoat_MN and DJSim22 2
drivlikejehu Verified Member Posted July 21, 2017 Posted July 21, 2017 there is opportunity cost. While I'm in favor of this move, depending on who gets sent, trading away prospects on low wattage moves means you can't package them on a higher wattage move. Low wattage prospects are irrelevant to high wattage acquisitions. One or two may be included as throw ins, but which one or two doesn't matter all that much. kab21 1
KirbyDome89 Verified Member Posted July 21, 2017 Posted July 21, 2017 Javier and Thorpe would cause this website to burn down. LMFAO true...and probably for good reason but hilarious nonetheless gunnarthor 1
ScooterDance Provisional Member Posted July 21, 2017 Posted July 21, 2017 Who in our farm system profiles as a #4 starter? Gonsalves? Realistically I mean, not a glass half full. Tomj14 1
Richie the Rally Goat Community Moderator Posted July 21, 2017 Posted July 21, 2017 Low wattage prospects are irrelevant to high wattage acquisitions. One or two may be included as throw ins, but which one or two doesn't matter all that much.agreed, we don't yet know the prospect that's getting traded away, do we? As has been stated by others, Atlanta isn't just going to give away Garcia
curt1965 Verified Member Posted July 21, 2017 Posted July 21, 2017 Man, I hope it's not Garver- Twins wouldn't be that stupid, would they? Oldgoat_MN, David HK and d-mac 3
Einstein1 Provisional Member Posted July 21, 2017 Posted July 21, 2017 https://twitter.com/LaVelleNeal/status/888238078124490752 I'm thinking Kohl Stewart and I could live with that. Oldgoat_MN and d-mac 2
T_J Provisional Member Posted July 21, 2017 Posted July 21, 2017 I'm actually thinking it might be John Ryan Murphy. It makes tons of sense. They are hurting for catchers and he still has tons of upside. He is behind Garver and he is on the 40 man roster. David HK and olivia11 2
twinsnorth49 Old-Timey Member Posted July 21, 2017 Posted July 21, 2017 So many comments about posters and their feeling. So tiresome. So very tiresome. Shoring up the back or middle of the rotation is a good idea, depending on the cost of course. Did I mention how tiresome it is that people have to constantly comment on posters and their feelings, rather than what is happening? We have a whole thread for that.You just did the same thing Mike. howieramone2, d-mac, wabene and 4 others 7
biggentleben Verified Member Posted July 21, 2017 Posted July 21, 2017 Someone on Braves site threw out Blankenhorns name, pure speculation. A bunch of them want Garver, Jay, Thorpe, salivating over Kiriloff. Surprised they new so much of our Farm system. They even went so far to check box scores to see if anyone was pulled from tonight's games They couldn't find anyone. They follow me on Twitter. I spent about 2.5 hours answering questions about the Twins system from Braves fans that have read me as a Braves writer for the last 4 years LOL I retweeted Seth's post that he had checked on the minor league lineups, which is I'm sure how that info got out as well. Matt got most of his info from me over the course of the night, though he's plenty knowledgeable in his own right on prospects. glunn, Connor Gould and Oldgoat_MN 3
biggentleben Verified Member Posted July 21, 2017 Posted July 21, 2017 Considering the best prospect that the Braves gave up to get Garcia was someone in or below the Jake Reed/Pat Light/etc territory, and the others were not high cieling risks either, yes I'd be annoyed if it is someone like Blankenhorn, a consensus top 10 in the system. They gave up a piece expected to be part of their major league bullpen. Prospect rank really doesn't matter at that point. Then you have one live arm with difficulty finding the strike zone and a gritty second baseman in the low minors with good pedigree. It was a pretty decent package of players to give up.
biggentleben Verified Member Posted July 21, 2017 Posted July 21, 2017 Kiriloff and Thorpe are definite a "No" for me. Garver is a no (though I think the Twins should call him up today).Anyone else besides the obvious no's I'd probably be fine with.My guess... Vielma No reason to bring in Vielma. Nowhere to play him. Oldgoat_MN 1
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