Seth Stohs Site Manager Posted July 31, 2017 Posted July 31, 2017 Brandon Kintzler was signed to a minor league deal, became a closer, became an All-Star, and now the Twins have traded him to the Washington Nationals. In return, the Twins will receive 20-year-old left-handed pitcher Tyler Watson. Watson is a late-teens prospect, depending upon which site you look at. The Twins also received $500,000 in International signing bonus money in the deal.Brandon Kintzler's baseball story is a great one. He spent time with the St. Paul Saints. He was signed by the Brewers where he spent parts of six seasons in the big leagues. A knee injury got him removed from the 40-man roster, and he became a free agent. Terry Ryan and the Twins quickly swooped in and signed him to a minor league deal. He spent about a month in Rochester before coming up to the Twins. Since then, he has been a remarkably consistent big league pitcher. In 54 games last year for the Twins, he posted a 3.15 ERA with a 1.23 WHIP. He became the team's closer and recorded 17 saves. This year, he has a 2.78 ERA and a 1.15 WHIP. He's recorded 28 saves and leads the league in games finished. But he is a free agent at the end of the season, so now that the Twins have decided to be a seller, he becomes an obvious choice. Because of that, Derek Falvey and Thad Levine have been fielding a lot of calls regarding their closer. Rumors started swirling late on Monday morning, but the team practiced patience and the deal was consummated moments before (and announced minutes after) Monday's 3:00 deadline.. Tyler Watson is a 6-5, 200 pound kid who is 6-4 with a 4.35 ERA in 18 games (17 starts) in Hagerstown, the Low A affiliate of the Nationals. In 93 innings he has 24 walks and 98 strikeouts. Most indicate that his prospect status has risen. He's a low-90s guy now, but is projectable, so he could add more velocity as he grows. He's also got a good curveball. Click here to view the article glunn and HitInAPinch 2
big dog Verified Member Posted July 31, 2017 Posted July 31, 2017 Best wishes to Brandon- a great story, and I wish him all the best. Here's to working hard! PS, I hope I get to see you pitch in the Series this fall. DJSim22, Oldgoat_MN, d-mac and 9 others 12
big dog Verified Member Posted July 31, 2017 Posted July 31, 2017 Tyler Watson.Elementary, my dear Winston. HitInAPinch, snepp, Oldgoat_MN and 1 other 4
spanman2 Verified Member Posted July 31, 2017 Posted July 31, 2017 Certainly have an opportunity to get him back in the off season as he is a free agent. He was very solid in a Twins uniform. Good luck Brandon! Great example of not giving up and continuing to put in the work. MN_ExPat, glunn, sploorp and 3 others 6
Puckett34 Verified Member Posted July 31, 2017 Posted July 31, 2017 Somebody tell me how to feel about the return Hosken Bombo Disco, 70charger, Eephus and 2 others 5
dbminn Verified Member Posted July 31, 2017 Posted July 31, 2017 Best wishes to Brandon Kintzler... Thanks for the saves! sploorp, Danchat, OldFartAtPlay and 3 others 6
luckylager Verified Member Posted July 31, 2017 Posted July 31, 2017 Somebody tell me how to feel about the returnHopeful. Jerr, OldFartAtPlay, d-mac and 1 other 4
Puckett34 Verified Member Posted July 31, 2017 Posted July 31, 2017 Hopeful.Eh. Good enough for a guy that was pitching independent ball 2 years ago. brvama and luckylager 2
daveha Provisional Member Posted July 31, 2017 Posted July 31, 2017 Here's what Chelsea James, The Nationals' beat reporter, saidNats sending lefty Tyler Watson, lefty from Hagerstown, to Minnesota. Was 6-4 with a 4.35 this year, but rising fast.
Han Joelo Verified Member Posted July 31, 2017 Posted July 31, 2017 Sounds a bit like a Tyler we already have in low-A, but you can never have enough spare Tylers. David HK, d-mac, snepp and 6 others 9
Sweetwater Provisional Member Posted July 31, 2017 Posted July 31, 2017 Finally a FO that is decisive and realistic. Maybe I'm wrong but the past guy would have sat on Kintzler and crossed his fingers. Ben B, wabene, alarp33 and 4 others 7
mazeville Verified Member Posted July 31, 2017 Posted July 31, 2017 Twins also got international bonus money in the deal. https://twitter.com/JonHeyman/status/892119472861065217 sploorp, snepp, d-mac and 3 others 6
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted July 31, 2017 Posted July 31, 2017 My thoughts are here: http://twinsdaily.com/topic/26988-kintzler-to-nationals-in-exchange-for-tyler-watson/ the addition of international money is great. Oldgoat_MN, snap4birds, beckmt and 3 others 6
nicksaviking Community Moderator Posted July 31, 2017 Posted July 31, 2017 Somebody tell me how to feel about the return Watson? Or the odds of Kintzler's return? Better than zero for both. beckmt, d-mac, Mike Sixel and 1 other 4
rdehring Verified Member Posted July 31, 2017 Posted July 31, 2017 I kind of like how these guys operate, Seth. beckmt, nmcowboy, wabene and 2 others 5
gunnarthor Old-Timey Member Posted July 31, 2017 Posted July 31, 2017 Finally a FO that is decisive and realistic. Maybe I'm wrong but the past guy would have sat on Kintzler and crossed his fingers.The last guy made a lot of these trades, too. howieramone2, diehardtwinsfan and Broker 3
Steve Lein Twins Daily Contributor Posted July 31, 2017 Posted July 31, 2017 Pleasantly surprised to get that some bonus $$ as well. Watson was about the type of prospect one should expect back for Kintzler. Appears to have some upside yet. Bob Sacamento, Dance with Disco Dan, 70charger and 5 others 8
nytwinsfan Provisional Member Posted July 31, 2017 Posted July 31, 2017 The ERA is misleading. Good K and BB numbers. 98 K and 24 BB in 93 innings, and just turned 20 two months ago. Also scouting reports seem to say his frame is projectable (6 foot 5, 200 lbs) even though his FB is 89-90 now. MN_ExPat, sploorp and vessey 3
70charger Verified Member Posted July 31, 2017 Posted July 31, 2017 Somebody tell me how to feel about the return I vote for outrage. I expect every subsequent post from you about this topic to be in all caps. snepp, kenbuddha, Tibs and 10 others 13
Winston Smith Verified Member Posted July 31, 2017 Posted July 31, 2017 The ability to spend more Int money is a nice lottery pick. sploorp and Oldgoat_MN 2
gunnarthor Old-Timey Member Posted July 31, 2017 Posted July 31, 2017 Somebody tell me how to feel about the returnIt's a solid trade. If it all works out, Watson could be a back end starter under team control for six years. It's more likely that he's a LH reliever but he has years to work this out. Realistically, the most likely scenario is that he washes out before AAA but he's another good lotto ticket. Most will fail but some will make it. howieramone2 and Oldgoat_MN 2
Kwak Verified Member Posted July 31, 2017 Posted July 31, 2017 Finally a FO that is decisive and realistic. Maybe I'm wrong but the past guy would have sat on Kintzler and crossed his fingers....and demanded a "hometown discount" for another contract! sploorp and Sweetwater 2
Brock Beauchamp Site Manager Posted July 31, 2017 Posted July 31, 2017 Okay, I was on board with this trade as a player-for-player swap. And then I saw the $500,000 (!) of international cap space thrown in. Shrewd. Smart. I like the way this front office operates. wabene, diehardtwinsfan, sploorp and 23 others 26
drjim Provisional Member Posted July 31, 2017 Posted July 31, 2017 Nice little return along with the international money. Twins traded the two guys they had to. Would expect some minor August moves too. sploorp, howieramone2 and caninatl04 3
John Bonnes Site Manager Posted July 31, 2017 Posted July 31, 2017 This likely won't be a very popular opinion, but the Twins gave up on this year for maybe five guys who:a. probably don't rank in the top 15 in their organization andb. probably don't rank in the top 300 in the minors and c. likely will make little to no difference in their future? That's what Littell, Enns, & Watson are, right? And given the reliever market (which we just saw for Kintzler), they certainly wouldn't have needed to give up much to add a couple of competent relievers. I know it's been a tough week, but this was a mistake. I don't get why they wouldn't ride it and chance the 9% chance they hat making the playoffs. It feels like panic. What did we gain exactly for giving up? Squirrel, hybridbear, peterb18 and 16 others 19
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted July 31, 2017 Posted July 31, 2017 Okay, I was on board with this trade as a player-for-player swap. And then I saw the $500,000 (!) of international bonus money thrown in. Shrewd. Smart. I like the way this front office operates. There can't be many top international guys left, frankly. Unless they are going into Japan....
Brock Beauchamp Site Manager Posted July 31, 2017 Posted July 31, 2017 There can't be many top international guys left, frankly. Unless they are going into Japan....I suspect there will be backfilling of lesser guys with that money... which isn't a bad way to operate on the margins of the international market, as the bust rate is so high with those guys. Mike Sixel and diehardtwinsfan 2
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted July 31, 2017 Posted July 31, 2017 This likely won't be a very popular opinion, but the Twins gave up on this year for maybe five guys who:a. probably don't rank in the top 15 in their organization andb. probably don't rank in the top 300 in the minors and c. likely will make little to no difference in their future? That's what Littell, Enns, & Watson are, right? And given the reliever market (which we just saw for Kintzler), they certainly wouldn't have needed to give up much to add a couple of competent relievers. I know it's been a tough week, but this was a mistake. I don't get why they wouldn't ride it and chance the 9% chance they hat making the playoffs. It feels like panic. What did we gain exactly for giving up? I just wanted them to go one or the other, John. I would have loved to have gotten Gray somehow, and another RP, but that was never in the cards, I don't think. I think they got some lottery tickets, which seems like a reasonable return, but yes, none of these guys are TOP prospects. Platoon, MN_ExPat and wsnydes 3
diehardtwinsfan Old-Timey Member Posted July 31, 2017 Posted July 31, 2017 This likely won't be a very popular opinion, but the Twins gave up on this year for maybe five guys who:a. probably don't rank in the top 15 in their organization andb. probably don't rank in the top 300 in the minors and c. likely will make little to no difference in their future? That's what Littell, Enns, & Watson are, right? And given the reliever market (which we just saw for Kintzler), they certainly wouldn't have needed to give up much to add a couple of competent relievers. I know it's been a tough week, but this was a mistake. I don't get why they wouldn't ride it and chance the 9% chance they hat making the playoffs. It feels like panic. What did we gain exactly for giving up? I think you're being a bit hard on Littell personally, but this team needed more than competent relievers. Now that said, I do hope that there is some sort of plan to add a competent starter and a competent reliever this offseason. They will have some nice depth of starting pitching in Rochester next year, but it would not be wise to roll the dice with a number of question marks to start the season. Tibs, beckmt, MN_ExPat and 6 others 9
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