What is Royce Lewis STILL doing in St. Paul!?!?!

[bighat]

It's no secret that the Twins have wasted years of talent of several ballplayers because they don't call up prospects until they're eligible for AARP discount cards. With that in mind, the handling of Royce Lewis after his return to St. Paul is very on-brand. 

Royce Lewis is the best player on the team and he's 100% healthy and ready to contribute. He's played a few games in St. Paul and has gone 3-for-9 with a double and a stolen base. He's clearly playing at full speed. Healthy. Making contact. Everything feels good, there's nothing to prove here. 

Twins should make a move to get Lewis in the MLB lineup as soon as possible, and the baseball world is perplexed and confused why this hasn't happened yet? Alas, for some reason, the Twins prefer to let one of the most talented players in baseball slowly rot away in a dank, dark, musty minor league stadium full of fans who only attend to watch the mascot races and celebrate children's birthday parties. 

Pathetic. FREE ROYCE!!!

 

[Richie the Rally Goat]

12 minutes ago, bighat said:

It's no secret that the Twins have wasted years of talent of several ballplayers because they don't call up prospects until they're eligible for AARP discount cards. With that in mind, the handling of Royce Lewis after his return to St. Paul is very on-brand. 

Royce Lewis is the best player on the team and he's 100% healthy and ready to contribute. He's played a few games in St. Paul and has gone 3-for-9 with a double and a stolen base. He's clearly playing at full speed. Healthy. Making contact. Everything feels good, there's nothing to prove here. 

Twins should make a move to get Lewis in the MLB lineup as soon as possible, and the baseball world is perplexed and confused why this hasn't happened yet? Alas, for some reason, the Twins prefer to let one of the most talented players in baseball slowly rot away in a dank, dark, musty minor league stadium full of fans who only attend to watch the mascot races and celebrate children's birthday parties. 

Pathetic. FREE ROYCE!!!

 

1) The Twins have said from the beginning he was going to have a long rehab assignment so they could better manage his return.

2) you clearly have never been to CHS Field in St Paul.

[bighat]

20 minutes ago, Richie the Rally Goat said:

1) The Twins have said from the beginning he was going to have a long rehab assignment so they could better manage his return.

2) you clearly have never been to CHS Field in St Paul.

So just because theTwins told everyone they were going to let an MVP candidate rot away in the minors, that makes it OK?

I have been to CHS Field, but it was 5-6 years ago before they were the Twins AAA team. 

[dxpavelka]

How do you find a spot for him with the big league club with Brooks Castro playing 3B?

 

[stringer bell]

57 minutes ago, bighat said:

Royce Lewis is the best player on the team and he's 100% healthy and ready to contribute. He's played a few games in St. Paul and has gone 3-for-9 with a double and a stolen base. He's clearly playing at full speed. Healthy. Making contact. Everything feels good, there's nothing to prove here. 

 

He's played two games as the DH. While so far all signs are positive, I don't believe there is proof that Lewis is "100% healthy". After the off day yesterday, let's see him play in the field for a couple of games as well as hit. 

Everyone wants to see Lewis return ASAP. I think it is reasonable for him to be back before the calendar is turned over to June, but two games of rehab is not letting him "slowly rot away".

[Brock Beauchamp]

He hasn't even played the field yet. Let's take a deep breath and let the rehab process play out.

[Old Crow]

He has not yet played at CHS field he has only played in Buffalo which may just have a damp dark and musty stadium.

[4twinsJA]

I would not say a 10-14 day rehab at AAA is rotting away at a lower level. 

[Sutter50]

Man, relax he has been a DH for 2 games. He needs to play in the field. He is not slowly rotting away. Patience please

[bean5302]

Huge Royce Lewis fan here. Easily, EASILY my favorite player on the Twins. The rehab process is going like this:
Play in games -> base running -> rest/check in with how his quad is feeling -> fielding.

Fielding will put the greatest load on Lewis' quad because of the start, stop, change direction, leap, off balance movement. This is what the trainers and coaches are saving for last, and Lewis will only be cleared to start fielding in games when he demonstrates his quad feels good after hitting well and running the bases hard without any tenderness or tightness the next day or the day after. If you've hit the gym you know day 1, if things are sore then day 2, things will be way more sore.

I expect Lewis could join the Twins on their next road trip sometime, but I'd be awfully surprised to see him before that.

[LA Vikes Fan]

He needs at least 2-3 games in the field for 9 innings before he will be back. I'm hopeful that those games will be the next 3, but it's more likely they will be spread over this week along with a game or 2 at DH. I'd love to have him back for Houston this weekend. I think it's more likely that he's back for the New York series starting June 3 and that's if everything goes well in AAA.  

[Twins_Fan_in_NJ]

If the Twins opt for an extended stay in St. Paul, people will be clamoring that Lewis needs to come up ASAP.

If the Twins rush him back to the bigs and he suffers a setback, people will be clamoring that he needed more time.

They're 5 games over .500. 2.5 game lead for the final WC spot. 6.5 games behind Cleveland in the Central. They've been without Lewis for almost 2 months. The sky's not falling. They're best served making sure he's fully healthy and ready to play. I'd much rather that approach than getting antsy in calling him up and risking not having him when they'll really need him, i.e., August, September, and hopefully October.

[Schmoeman5]

55 minutes ago, Bigfork Twins Guy said:

After all the soft tissue relapses we've had previously we want to rush this kid back.  Not a good idea IMO.

Yes yes. Bring him back right now! He's fine. Healthy as a horse. Doing Ozzie back flips at crappy stadiums in front of unworthy crowds who know not what they are looking at. Oh yeah and because Dr. hat cleared him

[DJL44]

1 hour ago, Twins_Fan_in_NJ said:

If the Twins opt for an extended stay in St. Paul, people will be clamoring that Lewis needs to come up ASAP.

If the Twins rush him back to the bigs and he suffers a setback, people will be clamoring that he needed more time.

The internet is great at providing people to second guess decisions after the results come in and then claim "they knew it would be like that all along"

[AKTwinsFan]

Rehab assignments are common practice in MLB. That way they don't face the major leagues before they are ready and potentially reinjure themselves. 

[Obsvr]

Why even have rehab assignments...what a waste of a generational talent.

 

 

[Hosken Bombo Disco]

Don’t forget that the Twins screwed up Buxton’s rehab last September. 

Everyone expects Lewis to be in Houston tomorrow. Lewis debuted against Houston last year too. With Lewis currently batting 1.000 he has nowhere to go but down! 

[tony&rodney]

Lewis needs a little time and some at bats in low key settings. Seems like a few people have adopted Royce as a new religion. Relax and let the process play out. 

[Patzky]

On 5/28/2024 at 7:12 AM, bighat said:

It's no secret that the Twins have wasted years of talent of several ballplayers because they don't call up prospects until they're eligible for AARP discount cards. With that in mind, the handling of Royce Lewis after his return to St. Paul is very on-brand. 

Royce Lewis is the best player on the team and he's 100% healthy and ready to contribute. He's played a few games in St. Paul and has gone 3-for-9 with a double and a stolen base. He's clearly playing at full speed. Healthy. Making contact. Everything feels good, there's nothing to prove here. 

Twins should make a move to get Lewis in the MLB lineup as soon as possible, and the baseball world is perplexed and confused why this hasn't happened yet? Alas, for some reason, the Twins prefer to let one of the most talented players in baseball slowly rot away in a dank, dark, musty minor league stadium full of fans who only attend to watch the mascot races and celebrate children's birthday parties. 

Pathetic. FREE ROYCE!!!

 

Jeez dude he hasn't faced live pitching for weeks. O for 3 today striking out. He ain't Jesus or even the orange Cheeto..

[arby58]

On 5/28/2024 at 6:12 AM, bighat said:

Royce Lewis is the best player on the team and he's 100% healthy and ready to contribute. He's played a few games in St. Paul and has gone 3-for-9 with a double and a stolen base. He's clearly playing at full speed. Healthy. Making contact. Everything feels good, there's nothing to prove here. 

Are you an MD? How do you know 'he's 100% healthy and ready to contribute?' The worst thing that could happen for the Twins would be to bring him back too quickly, have him aggravate the injury, and be done for a couple more months. 

Honestly, why do people believe they know better than the professional trainers, doctors, etc. that are employed by the Twins and have skin in the game? It's not as if they gain anything from keeping him in the minors at this point in his career. The Twins are fighting to make the play-offs - they will bring him up when they believe the rewards outweigh the risks.

[DocBauer]

Royce us an amazing talent, a potential MVP candidate one of these days, and arguably the best...or second best...player on the Twins. Knowing him, he's likely to go 2-4 in his first game back with a double and a HR. But the kid literally sat for about 7 weeks before getting in to any sort of game action. 

Im more than happy to wait another week to 10 days and have him for the rest of the season instead of rushing him back, have a relapse, and then hope we can get him back for August.

But I'm also really confused about the Twins promoting slowly and letting prospects languish in the minors. At least under the current FO, who might that be? 

Now, some guys go to college, get drafted, and take a couple milb seasons to get prepared/experienced and might not hit MLB until they're 23-24-25 in some cases. But who have they held back???

Ryan was promoted almost immediately. Ober, post injuries, debuted at 25. Julien flew through the system. Miranda was up at 23. Wallner at 24. SWR is still only 23 and debuted, briefly, at 21. Jeffers came up at 23yo and basically skipped AAA. Lee WOULD have debuted in April at 23yo if his back hadn't flared up. And there's a bunch of 21-23yo players and pitchers at AAA and AA right now, including some just recently promotes up a level a full month plus before mid season.

Just exactly who's been slow to be promoted???

[Seth Stohs]

don't respond. Don't respond... Don't respond... 

Ahhhhh... Le'ts let him play the field for a couple straight games and get back into game mode. 

[Parfigliano]

Everybody wants him back ASAP.  I want him back fully healthy ready to go for the rest of this year and hopefully years to come.

 

[bighat]

10 hours ago, DocBauer said:

Royce us an amazing talent, a potential MVP candidate one of these days, and arguably the best...or second best...player on the Twins. Knowing him, he's likely to go 2-4 in his first game back with a double and a HR. But the kid literally sat for about 7 weeks before getting in to any sort of game action. 

Im more than happy to wait another week to 10 days and have him for the rest of the season instead of rushing him back, have a relapse, and then hope we can get him back for August.

But I'm also really confused about the Twins promoting slowly and letting prospects languish in the minors. At least under the current FO, who might that be? 

Now, some guys go to college, get drafted, and take a couple milb seasons to get prepared/experienced and might not hit MLB until they're 23-24-25 in some cases. But who have they held back???

Ryan was promoted almost immediately. Ober, post injuries, debuted at 25. Julien flew through the system. Miranda was up at 23. Wallner at 24. SWR is still only 23 and debuted, briefly, at 21. Jeffers came up at 23yo and basically skipped AAA. Lee WOULD have debuted in April at 23yo if his back hadn't flared up. And there's a bunch of 21-23yo players and pitchers at AAA and AA right now, including some just recently promotes up a level a full month plus before mid season.

Just exactly who's been slow to be promoted???

Dude, Acuna debuted at 19. Ozzie Albies came up at age 20. Bobby Witt came up at 20. The Mariners called up Julio Rodriguez at age 19. Brewers have this Churio kid up at age 20. The Reds' Elly De La Cruz was 21 last season. The Rangers have 2 starting OF (Wyatt Langford and Evan Carter) who are 22 and 21, respectively. 

And here you are using the fact that the Twins promoted Matt Wallner at 24 and that's your example of the Twins "rushing youth through the system"? Ober came up at 25 - you think he's some spring chicken? 

Dude these guys are grandfathers by the time they get to the majors. Meanwhile every other MLB club is bringing up 20 year-old All-Stars.

Twins fans need to step away from their glass of milk and white toast and look around the league a little bit. This organization is about as conservative as it gets when it comes to promoting young players. 

[bighat]

12 hours ago, arby58 said:

Are you an MD? How do you know 'he's 100% healthy and ready to contribute?' The worst thing that could happen for the Twins would be to bring him back too quickly, have him aggravate the injury, and be done for a couple more months. 

Honestly, why do people believe they know better than the professional trainers, doctors, etc. that are employed by the Twins and have skin in the game? It's not as if they gain anything from keeping him in the minors at this point in his career. The Twins are fighting to make the play-offs - they will bring him up when they believe the rewards outweigh the risks.

I do know better. 

Royce Lewis playing full speed in St. Paul vs. Royce Lewis playing full speed in Minneapolis. What's the difference? 

Let that sink in. 

[arby58]

15 minutes ago, bighat said:

Dude, Acuna debuted at 19. Ozzie Albies came up at age 20. Bobby Witt came up at 20. The Mariners called up Julio Rodriguez at age 19. Brewers have this Churio kid up at age 20. The Reds' Elly De La Cruz was 21 last season. The Rangers have 2 starting OF (Wyatt Langford and Evan Carter) who are 22 and 21, respectively. 

And here you are using the fact that the Twins promoted Matt Wallner at 24 and that's your example of the Twins "rushing youth through the system"? Ober came up at 25 - you think he's some spring chicken? 

Dude these guys are grandfathers by the time they get to the majors. Meanwhile every other MLB club is bringing up 20 year-old All-Stars.

Twins fans need to step away from their glass of milk and white toast and look around the league a little bit. This organization is about as conservative as it gets when it comes to promoting young players. 

This is all cherry picking - Acuna, Rodriguez, Witt are among the best players in the game. I'm surprised you didn't add  teenagers Trout and Harper to the list. 

For what it's worth, Byron Buxton debuted with the Twins at 21 - so did SWR, for that matter. 

[FlyingFinn]

36 minutes ago, bighat said:

Meanwhile every other MLB club is bringing up 20 year-old All-Stars.

Please make this list of 20 year-old All-Stars public for every team.

[Rod Carews Birthday]

39 minutes ago, bighat said:

I do know better. 

Royce Lewis playing full speed in St. Paul vs. Royce Lewis playing full speed in Minneapolis. What's the difference? 

Let that sink in. 

It’s all about level of competition.  At St. Paul, he may be running at full speed but the pressure is MUCH less and he can get himself back into the swing of things.  That’s what rehab is all about.  As someone who has rehabbed a couple of injuries, it is also true that when you think everything is good, suddenly your body decides to remind you that it isn’t quite there yet.  MUCH better to have that happen in a lower pressure situation than at the MLB level.  If he feels that little twinge of pain, since he is being eased back in in St. Paul, he comes out of the game.  Given Royce Lewis’ competitive nature, do you think that he will ask to come out of the game vs. the Guardians or the Astros?  Unless it is obvious and major the answer is no, and THAT is exactly the situation that a rehab stint in the minors is designed to avoid. 

Let that sink in. 

[bighat]

1 hour ago, arby58 said:

This is all cherry picking - Acuna, Rodriguez, Witt are among the best players in the game. I'm surprised you didn't add  teenagers Trout and Harper to the list. 

For what it's worth, Byron Buxton debuted with the Twins at 21 - so did SWR, for that matter. 

Byron Buxton debuted back in the dark ages before TikTok existed. What's next, you going to tell me how the Twins brought up John Castino directly from his pappy's pig farm when he was 22 years old or something? 

C'mon now, everyone knows the Twins famously, notoriously, are slow to promote. This is a fact. Why you are twisting yourself into knots trying to prove otherwise is beyond me. 

The Twins need Royce, and they need him now, and we all want to watch him run through a stop sign at 3rd base, steaming for home like a runaway freight train. The sooner the better. 

 

[Obsvr]

3 hours ago, bighat said:

I do know better. 

Royce Lewis playing full speed in St. Paul vs. Royce Lewis playing full speed in Minneapolis. What's the difference? 

Let that sink in. 

This has to be trolling.

Kudos and wp sir.