Sano to have knee surgery

[wsnydes]

Looks like Sano is to have surgery to repair a torn meniscus in his knee.

Edit: Just an update on Sano's surgery.

 

[stringer bell]

Sorry to hear the news on Sanó.  I would expect he’ll be ready to play some time this summer. 

[Musk21]

I would venture to guess that he will be out until July 1st.

[shortround81]

4 minutes ago, Musk21 said:

I would venture to guess that he will be out until July 1st.

Is it sad that my first thought was this has a Barreiro/JG's Top Five At 5, "limited at practice but not due to injury" vibe to it?

[4twinsJA]

Wow, did not expect that. Looks like Miranda will get extended look. 

[CRF]

Just saw this. I guess it's a good news, bad news kind of thing. You never want to see a guy get hurt and go down, but by the same token...it gets him out of the line up for a while. He was stinking up the joint. 

[wsnydes]

45 minutes ago, Musk21 said:

I would venture to guess that he will be out until July 1st.

If not longer.  Sounds like it depends largely on which procedure is done.

 

 

 

[stringer bell]

Silver lining department: perhaps a 40-man roster opportunity. 

[darwin22]

28 minutes ago, CRF said:

Just saw this. I guess it's a good news, bad news kind of thing. You never want to see a guy get hurt and go down, but by the same token...it gets him out of the line up for a while. He was stinking up the joint. 

Agreed.  Painful to watch Sano's continued struggles at the plate.  Considering the severity of Sano's injury, I doubt he's "game ready" until after the ASB.  If that proves to be the case, does Arraez continue to be the everyday 1B until Kirilloff's health and bat merit a promotion from SP??

[operation mindcrime]

At least he helped us win that game with his base running blunder!!!!!!! Get well soon Miguel!

[tony&rodney]

Miguel Sano has been a bit of a lightning rod for many Twins fans. His stumbles at the plate have been magnified quite often. I don't personally know Sano. It saddens me when the comments question his work habits and character and recently whether Sano actually had an injury or was being put on the IL due to his low batting average. It is quite difficult and a rare accomplishment to be a professional baseball player. Sano has worked hard to succeed but the pitchers are really good in MLB. Sometimes opponents are just better or more successful and fans need to check their rage when it comes to questioning professional athletes. Sano could return, after a minor league rehab stint, by July and we should hope the best version of the big man returns to help the Twins in the second half of the year. Meniscus surgery is almost always very successful ( I have been happy with all of mine) and an athlete can return better than before in less than two months. I wish Sano the best with his surgery and path back to MLB.

[GKuehl]

This couldn’t have come at a better time for us — Miranda’s been knocking on the door of the majors since last August, Sano has been hitting worse than prime time Alexi Casilla, and we can get some 26-man and 40-man roster flexibility by putting Sano on the 60-day IL. 

[TruthInDuluth]

Time for Twins to cut their losses and dump Sano

[Mike Sixel]

It's awful that someone has to have surgery.... Hope he heals well. 

[Linus]

I’m as frustrated with Sano as anybody but what is important is for the guy to have successful surgery and regain his health. Baseball is second. 

[Nashvilletwin]

Feel bad for Miguel. This is a big year for him as it’s the last fully guaranteed year of his deal. He needed a solid year to get that next decent/big contract. Here’s hoping he gets healthy as soon as possible and earns the opportunity to show his stuff on the Twins later in the year. But whether he gets that opportunity is not a given at this time. 

[RaoulDuke]

I think this spells the end for Sano as a Twin.  Kirilloff/ Miranda can take over 1st if they hit at all and Arraez is an unconventional choice even if they can't.

Sano gotta mash to be valuable, he spends 1/2 the year decidedly not mashing or hurt a lot of the time.  Awesome prospect, awesome stretches as a mlb power threat, and lots of time as unplayable due to slump or injury.

[Richie the Rally Goat]

I wonder if the knee has been bothering him all season, if it’s the cause of his slow start.

[wsnydes]

43 minutes ago, Richie the Rally Goat said:

I wonder if the knee has been bothering him all season, if it’s the cause of his slow start.

From what I've heard and read, he hurt it during the celebration following his walk-off single against the Tigers.

Though, I suppose that doesn't mean that it wasn't bothering him before.  He could have made it worse at that time.

[ToddlerHarmon]

13 hours ago, tony&rodney said:

Miguel Sano has been a bit of a lightning rod for many Twins fans. His stumbles at the plate have been magnified quite often. I don't personally know Sano. It saddens me when the comments question his work habits and character and recently whether Sano actually had an injury or was being put on the IL due to his low batting average. It is quite difficult and a rare accomplishment to be a professional baseball player. Sano has worked hard to succeed but the pitchers are really good in MLB. Sometimes opponents are just better or more successful and fans need to check their rage when it comes to questioning professional athletes. Sano could return, after a minor league rehab stint, by July and we should hope the best version of the big man returns to help the Twins in the second half of the year. Meniscus surgery is almost always very successful ( I have been happy with all of mine) and an athlete can return better than before in less than two months. I wish Sano the best with his surgery and path back to MLB.

I agree that the leaps to "not a hard worker/not coachable" are complete speculation. Clearly, a livable balance between contact and power for Sano is not there, and hasn't been since he was a rookie. It's hard to tell whether that is due to his executing what the coaches advise, or not. Tragic either way, since there are few players who can punish a baseball like that.

[The_Phantom]

1 hour ago, Richie the Rally Goat said:

I wonder if the knee has been bothering him all season, if it’s the cause of his slow start.

No indication of that at all. All reports say he hurt it celebrating (except one that said he hurt it in the rundown).  
 
He’s been hitting his exit velo numbers, etc. Theres just nothing to remotely go on that he’s been playing hurt. Sometimes guys just don’t play well. Especially all or nothing “3 true outcomes” guys. 

[teekz]

I feel this just means we will never see Sano play a game in a Twins uniform again.

[CRF]

47 minutes ago, The_Phantom said:

No indication of that at all. All reports say he hurt it celebrating (except one that said he hurt it in the rundown).  
 
He’s been hitting his exit velo numbers, etc. Theres just nothing to remotely go on that he’s been playing hurt. Sometimes guys just don’t play well. Especially all or nothing “3 true outcomes” guys. 

Yep, this is what was reported by the Roc...Sano initially hurt the knee in the celebration, then aggravated it in the TB game.

[RpR]

6 hours ago, Richie the Rally Goat said:

I wonder if the knee has been bothering him all season, if it’s the cause of his slow start.

I had/have had one for years; did not know till after twenty years and getting real bad what it was.

Orthopedic doctor did some massage on the knee and it was better than it had been in twenty years instantly; he said they could do orthoscopic but that he did not think it was necessary.

It got bad briefly one year ago , then all misery/lack of movement went away and it has not come back.

 

[Number3]

Sano has been hurt in 2 celebrations. One after the celebration in DR when he tripped on a pedestrian bridge and now this one. Nothing against the guy but his tenure with the Twins really should be over. Maybe a fresh start somewhere else would be best for him and the Twins if that is even possible now. The lineups they have been running out there recently have no weaknesses.

[Richie the Rally Goat]

1 hour ago, RpR said:

I had/have had one for years; did not know till after twenty years and getting real bad what it was.

Orthopedic doctor did some massage on the knee and it was better than it had been in twenty years instantly; he said they could do orthoscopic but that he did not think it was necessary.

It got bad briefly one year ago , then all misery/lack of movement went away and it has not come back.

 

Great example RpR. Soft tissue injuries can flare up, sometimes they need surgery, others not, and people grind through them. We’ve all lived with pain that affects life for some duration. It doesn’t all get reported. I mean the daily column in the Strib would be two full pages of nagging injuries if every little thing was reported, but that doesn’t mean there isn’t an impact to player performance.

[Original_JB]

21 hours ago, tony&rodney said:

Miguel Sano has been a bit of a lightning rod for many Twins fans. His stumbles at the plate have been magnified quite often. I don't personally know Sano. It saddens me when the comments question his work habits and character and recently whether Sano actually had an injury or was being put on the IL due to his low batting average. It is quite difficult and a rare accomplishment to be a professional baseball player. Sano has worked hard to succeed but the pitchers are really good in MLB. Sometimes opponents are just better or more successful and fans need to check their rage when it comes to questioning professional athletes. Sano could return, after a minor league rehab stint, by July and we should hope the best version of the big man returns to help the Twins in the second half of the year. Meniscus surgery is almost always very successful ( I have been happy with all of mine) and an athlete can return better than before in less than two months. I wish Sano the best with his surgery and path back to MLB.

Better than before (they were injured)? Um, no. I've had mine done. Once they cut out the torn flap part and send you on your way, your knee essentially needs to re-create it's normal 'groove' for lack of a better term. You don't do any damage to it while doing so, but it can be pretty painful, and it will take a boatload of icing until it gets settled down. You can come back to where you were before, but 'better', no. And if he doesn't lose about 50-60lbs it won't matter, his knees won't take the punishment.

[tony&rodney]

2 hours ago, Original_JB said:

Better than before (they were injured)? Um, no. I've had mine done

Sorry to hear your meniscus surgeries were not so smooth. I have had three and each time it was a fairly quick return. They were about 15 years apart and at 70 I likely need both knees replaced, but I did the PT religiously and kept up my exercises. My experiences were quite positive. My sin was playing too much for too long. Pitching, catching, basketball, and water-skiing are not kind to knees. I should have played softball, pool, poker, or shuffleboard.

[Original_JB]

15 hours ago, tony&rodney said:

Sorry to hear your meniscus surgeries were not so smooth. I have had three and each time it was a fairly quick return. They were about 15 years apart and at 70 I likely need both knees replaced, but I did the PT religiously and kept up my exercises. My experiences were quite positive. My sin was playing too much for too long. Pitching, catching, basketball, and water-skiing are not kind to knees. I should have played softball, pool, poker, or shuffleboard.

Actually, they went fine. They had to clean up a bunch of cartilage, etc. while in there as well, and they essentially told me "It would hurt, but I wouldn't be doing any damage to it" moving around after surgery. Phys Therapy guy looked pretty shocked when I walked in 2 days after surgery without crutches though. But after 3-4 months, my knee was back to normal, and wasn't requiring icing 2x a day. Now, this was the "Tria" method where you really don't take any down time after the surgery, you just start working it right away. My 'dig' if it were one, is at the "better than before" comment. A cleaned up/repaired knee is never as good as one that hasn't had the injuries/wear and tear. Is it better than the injured, but yet to be repaired one? Of course. 

[wsnydes]