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I don't know much about the  Phillies prospects the Twins got for Duran, but it seems a bit light but not just totally lopsided against the Twins.

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13 minutes ago, nicksaviking said:

Unless one is going off of some very dated prospect rankings, I think the Giants got just as good if not a better return for 2 months of the soft tossing Tyler Rogers.

Wow. This was my initial reaction. 

The Twins had all the cards and folded on a hand that would play another two plus years. Incredible.

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This is the best they were Abel to get?! Come on. 

I really, really hope we don't hear some nonsense from Falvey about needing to get an MLB-ready arm in return for the 2026 "retool." Ugh.

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11 minutes ago, bunsen82 said:

Wow lots of hate for a very good trade. This was the exact haul discussed many times.  I would even say an overpay. Abel is a much better pitcher than SWR. 

You can’t be serious 

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Yuck. We won’t see any meaningful return on this trade for 3 years, and at that time this catching prospect will need to be a better than league average starter for this FO to be redeemed. I’m not optimistic. They’ll be gone regardless. 

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3 minutes ago, LastOnePicked said:

This is the best they were Abel to get?! Come on. 

I really, really hope we don't hear some nonsense from Falvey about needing to get an MLB-ready arm in return for the 2026 "retool." Ugh.

And we know ... Falvey is un-abel.

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5 minutes ago, notoriousgod71 said:

Let's all remember we traded Wilson Ramos for Matt capps.

Wilson Ramos in AAA too meaning less projection. This trade is so disgusting.  We got nothing.  Haven’t felt this disgusted trading away a veteran since the terrible haul we got for Johan

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10 minutes ago, Dman said:

How does Dombrowski do it?  We need that guy on our side.

He has worked in big cities. I don't know what these guys get paid but he might have just made the Phillies dozens of millions. 

I'm just sitting here shaking my head. The Twins did not need to trade anyone but the expiring contracts.

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6 minutes ago, sweetmusicviola16 said:

When the headliner for your star closer is an A ball C that signals to me that this team has no intent of competing for the next 3 seasons.

And they shouldn't. It's rebuild time. Which is why they should never have sought Abel in the deal. Unreal. You want high-end talent and future promise, not an MLB 4th starter dud.

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I was on board to shop Duran and I'm still in support of making bold moves.  We've been the worst team in baseball for most of the summer, no sacred cows.

That said....Painter, Miller, or Crawford needed to be in this deal for me.  I'd feel much different about it if they were.  As is....not happy with the targets they got back.  I hope I end up wrong.

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2 minutes ago, nicksaviking said:

Ramos was already at the MLB level. Unless it’s some can’t miss stud with a 1.000 OPS, A ball players should be the third or fourth piece included.

I was condemning that trade as well. We trade legitimate catchers for garbage closets and elite closets for garbage catchers.

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Just now, TheLeviathan said:

I was on board to shop Duran and I'm still in support of making bold moves.  We've been the worst team in baseball for most of the summer, no sacred cows.

That said....Painter, Miller, or Crawford needed to be in this deal for me.  I'd feel much different about it if they were.  As is....not happy with the targets they got back.  I hope I end up wrong.

Same names for me ....

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