Brock Beauchamp Site Manager Posted December 16, 2022 Posted December 16, 2022 Heyman jumped out a few minutes ago with a brief tweet that, if correct, means one of only two star (or close to star) free agents remaining has gone off the table. Left-hander Carlos Rodon, by all accounts pursued by the Minnesota Twins, will be donning pinstripes in the Bronx in 2023 and beyond. Any guesses on dollars and years? View full rumor
Brock Beauchamp Site Manager Posted December 16, 2022 Author Posted December 16, 2022 Passan with the confirmation:
SanoMustGo Verified Member Posted December 16, 2022 Posted December 16, 2022 surprise...I hope his shoulder blows
Brock Beauchamp Site Manager Posted December 16, 2022 Author Posted December 16, 2022 That's really not an unreasonable amount for Rodon. That's the kind of deal the Twins could have easily signed. twinssporto, In My La Z boy, RJA and 13 others 14 1 1
nicksaviking Community Moderator Posted December 16, 2022 Posted December 16, 2022 3 minutes ago, Brock Beauchamp said: That's really not an unreasonable amount for Rodon. That's the kind of deal the Twins could have easily signed. I doubt the Twins offered that. But with him wanting to go to NY, I doubt he’d have come here unless their deal was bigger in years and noticeably different in AAV. I won’t be surprised if we hear another team, (not the Twins) had a bigger deal in the table. TopGunn#22, wabene, MABB1959 and 4 others 7
weitz41 Verified Member Posted December 16, 2022 Posted December 16, 2022 In this market that's a good contract. Congrats to both of them. MABB1959 1
Brock Beauchamp Site Manager Posted December 16, 2022 Author Posted December 16, 2022 7 minutes ago, nicksaviking said: I doubt the Twins offered that. But with him wanting to go to NY, I doubt he’d have come here unless their deal was bigger in years and noticeably different in AAV. I won’t be surprised if we hear another team, (not the Twins) had a bigger deal in the table. That wouldn't surprise me, either. And I was never that particularly high on Rodon so I'm not gnashing my teeth over it. I was open to the Twins signing him but given his injury, he scares the hell out of me. Dman and TwinsDr2021 2
whosafraidofluigirussolo Verified Member Posted December 16, 2022 Posted December 16, 2022 19 minutes ago, Brock Beauchamp said: That's really not an unreasonable amount for Rodon. That's the kind of deal the Twins could have easily signed. Since there have been reports that Rodón preferred to go to the Yankees, another team may have had to beat this deal at least by a bit — I'm not sure I would have wanted the Twins to go higher on both dollars and years, but $1M more per year, or a 7th year on its own? Sure, that seems reasonable, especially considering what they were willing to offer Correa. Minny505 1
gman Verified Member Posted December 16, 2022 Posted December 16, 2022 Of his 6 years what are the odds that 3 are healthy?
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted December 16, 2022 Posted December 16, 2022 Shocker. Truly shocking the Twins aren't signing one elite FA. Onto the next level (most of whom are gone), then to level three FAs....yay! You can have CC for ten years (5-7 good ones and 3-5 ok ones and nothing in years 11-13) and no good FA in year 11=13....or you can have three ok to bad FAs. Which would you rather have? Because 35MM a year is three ok to bad FAs right now, and likely one good to great FA in 11 years.....I know what I'd rather have. Because ok FAs aren't much better than the guys in the minors.... RJA, TopGunn#22, TwinsDr2021 and 3 others 6
CRF Verified Member Posted December 16, 2022 Posted December 16, 2022 Not a surprise...that's where he wanted to go. DocBauer, MABB1959 and 4twinsJA 3
Linus Verified Member Posted December 16, 2022 Posted December 16, 2022 3 minutes ago, gman said: Of his 6 years what are the odds that 3 are healthy? Who cares. The alternative is watching the Pohlad family count their money. I want Rodon and the risk more than I want a $120 million payroll. MABB1959, gunnarthor, TwinsDr2021 and 8 others 11
hof282011 Verified Member Posted December 16, 2022 Posted December 16, 2022 18 minutes ago, Brock Beauchamp said: Passan with the confirmation: As I said the other day. It doesn't matter what the Twins may have offered. The Yankees just up it. Rodon wanted to be with Yankees. Same with Dansby Swanson. If the Cubs want him, they just up whatever Mn may have offered. That's just the way it is. Twins FO need to stop saying every winter we are all In on big name free agents. They are better off saying we are going to do the best we can. Saying your all in and then getting nothing makes you look bad. Please don't trade Arraez + whoever for Lopez. Kummel 1
Azviking101 Verified Member Posted December 16, 2022 Posted December 16, 2022 Time to burn it all to the ground. Can’t force Pohlads to sell but can bring in a FO with a pulse and a plan. The most embarrassing offseason in years. Only way to improve team now is decimate the 23rd ranked farm system. wow, just wow howeda7, Mike Sixel and TwinsDr2021 3
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted December 16, 2022 Posted December 16, 2022 1 minute ago, Linus said: Who cares. The alternative is watching the Pohlad family count their money. I want Rodon and the risk more than I want a $120 million payroll. This. To be clear, I think there was no way he came to MN. nicksaviking 1
baul0010 Verified Member Posted December 16, 2022 Posted December 16, 2022 21 minutes ago, nicksaviking said: I doubt the Twins offered that. But with him wanting to go to NY, I doubt he’d have come here unless their deal was bigger in years and noticeably different in AAV. I won’t be surprised if we hear another team, (not the Twins) had a bigger deal in the table. What do you mean not the Twins. I thought we were signing him and Swanson? How could our front office not deliver?
tony&rodney Verified Member Posted December 16, 2022 Posted December 16, 2022 7 minutes ago, gman said: Of his 6 years what are the odds that 3 are healthy? I wouldn't take that bet, would you? I would also say he has the same odds as any other pitcher. Would you bet on any pitcher staying healthy? DocBauer 1
Azviking101 Verified Member Posted December 16, 2022 Posted December 16, 2022 1 minute ago, Mike Sixel said: This. To be clear, I think there was no way he came to MN. Ok but they could have improved the team by focusing on guys like Bassitt, Abreu, Contreras, Senga, Bell etc but instead they tried to live in their little fairyland that they could get these stars and they didn’t stand a chance. Now the offseason is shot Brock Beauchamp, TwinsDr2021, DocBauer and 2 others 5
tony&rodney Verified Member Posted December 16, 2022 Posted December 16, 2022 10 minutes ago, Mike Sixel said: Shocker. Truly shocking the Twins aren't signing one elite FA. Onto the next level (most of whom are gone), then to level three FAs....yay! You can have CC for ten years (5-7 good ones and 3-5 ok ones and nothing in years 11-13) and no good FA in year 11=13....or you can have three ok to bad FAs. Which would you rather have? Because 35MM a year is three ok to bad FAs right now, and likely one good to great FA in 11 years.....I know what I'd rather have. Because ok FAs aren't much better than the guys in the minors.... Happ, Shoemaker, Bundy, Archer, etc. What does it add up to? Kummel, TopGunn#22 and TwinsDr2021 3
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted December 16, 2022 Posted December 16, 2022 2 minutes ago, Azviking101 said: Ok but they could have improved the team by focusing on guys like Bassitt, Abreu, Contreras, Senga, Bell etc but instead they tried to live in their little fairyland that they could get these stars and they didn’t stand a chance. Now the offseason is shot Agreed....but they didn't. They passed on nearly every guy in the second tier of FA. TopGunn#22 and TwinsDr2021 2
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted December 16, 2022 Posted December 16, 2022 1 minute ago, tony&rodney said: Happ, Shoemaker, Bundy, Archer, etc. What does it add up to? That's my point.....wouldn't you rather have CC and three rookies? TopGunn#22 and TwinsDr2021 2
Azviking101 Verified Member Posted December 16, 2022 Posted December 16, 2022 3 minutes ago, Mike Sixel said: Agreed....but they didn't. They passed on nearly every guy in the second tier of FA. And this is a startling trend during the Falvey era. For a team dead set on being right in the middle of payroll, those are the players that you should be aiming for TopGunn#22 1
jmlease1 Verified Member Posted December 16, 2022 Posted December 16, 2022 Rodon wasn't the target I wanted; the injury history scares me more with him than basically any other player, especially after seeing the Twins squad get wrecked by injuries 2 years in a row. But since he cost only money, I think I would have gone for it with Correa off the board...but if he had his mind set on going to NY, then what are ya gonna do? I wonder where the Twins were sitting on this from a numbers perspective? Not that it really matters, but I'm always a little curious to see how high they might have been willing to go. Maybe we're better off not knowing, since it will likely only infuriate the people that hate everything about this front office even more... Down to Swansby. Looking like a poor off season to date: Farmer and Vazquez are not enough. TwinsDr2021, TopGunn#22, Vanimal46 and 1 other 4
Vanimal46 Old-Timey Member Posted December 16, 2022 Posted December 16, 2022 Never thought for a single second that the Twins were “seriously in” on Rodon. This offseason so far is a dud. The only way to dig out of this hole, if they actually want to win, is make 2 to 3 trades for MLB talent. Further depleting the farm system. TwinsDr2021 and Dman 2
HerbieFan Verified Member Posted December 16, 2022 Posted December 16, 2022 My two cents....Carlos Rodon was never coming to Minnesota. And the Twins were never going to give any pitcher 6 years. Period. USAFChief, Otwins, Vanimal46 and 5 others 8
Steve71 Verified Member Posted December 16, 2022 Posted December 16, 2022 Rodon rebuffed the Twins overtures 2 years in a row. He was never coming here, folks. TwinsDr2021 and LewFordLives 2
tony&rodney Verified Member Posted December 16, 2022 Posted December 16, 2022 30 minutes ago, Mike Sixel said: That's my point.....wouldn't you rather have CC and three rookies? Every day, every year. Yes, I was saying the same in agreement. TwinsDr2021 1
Parfigliano Verified Member Posted December 16, 2022 Posted December 16, 2022 1 hour ago, Brock Beauchamp said: Passan with the confirmation: Thats $27 mil/yr. I highly doubt Twins offer was anywhere near that contract offer Danchat 1
RJA Verified Member Posted December 16, 2022 Posted December 16, 2022 Well, there goes one pivot opportunity :).
Reptevia Verified Member Posted December 16, 2022 Posted December 16, 2022 Swanson won’t come here either. Why would he?
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