BREAKING: Twins to Acquire Right-Handed Reliever Jeff Hoffman from Blue Jays

[Patzky]

Just now, terrydactyls said:

Have they traded for Abreu? 

No word

[jkcarew]

I’m mean, he’s likely to help this year and next. Has struggled as a closer, but very good otherwise. Was the price too high? Who knows.

Disappointed on not capitalizing on Jeffers, though.

[Twodogs]

3 minutes ago, MMBoys93 said:

He’s 20 years old and has a k/9 of 15.4 lol. Outside of some bumpy control cause he’s you know…20, he’s striking people out at a rate you just don’t see. 

Well Hoffman has 75K's in 48 innings at the MLB level, so hopefully he can provide something down the stretch.  Sucks to lose good prospects but Hoffman has been doing well as of late and maybe with him the Twins don't lose that game against the M's???  I mean it isnt worth it if the Twins dont make the playoffs, its low key worth it if they do make the playoffs.  So have to wait and see.  Could flip him next year too??

[Ghost_Of_Sid_Hartman]

Per Cott's Baseball Contracts, Hoffman is signed through 2027 at $11M per year with additional incentives for innings pitched. 

[MMBoys93]

Assuming they are done, this is a very meh trade deadline for a team that said that they are buyers when they shouldn’t be. Jeffers and Larnach could’ve gotten back a really solid return but instead we get an older reliever who was very good three years ago, but has lost a lot on his fast ball, a starting pitcher who I still struggle to see having a fit on this team and a reliever with great strikeout numbers, but is about the least clutch closer in the league today.

White Sox and Guardians both did better today and are still better teams. 
 

Just like I figured, this was a face saving exercise by Jim Pohlad. “We actually tried this time!”

[TL]

Have to trust their evaluation on this one that Hill won’t turn into a top 3 starter. If not then it’s all good. We won’t know for 4 years or so. 

[DJL44]

I would have outrighted Klein in the offseason, if not sooner. Not worth protecting on the 40-man roster. Pena is a second baseman with no pop in his bat. 

It is essentially Hoffman for Hill. Hill has a career 6.5 BB per 9 and has been worse this season at 7.4. Who knows if he can put it together before he becomes Rule 5 eligible in 2028.

[terrydactyls]

It's 6:00PM!!  Will late trades be announced in the next half hour?

[MMBoys93]

1 minute ago, Twodogs said:

Well Hoffman has 75K's in 48 innings at the MLB level, so hopefully he can provide something down the stretch.  Sucks to lose good prospects but Hoffman has been doing well as of late and maybe with him the Twins don't lose that game against the M's???  I mean it isnt worth it if the Twins dont make the playoffs, its low key worth it if they do make the playoffs.  So have to wait and see.  Could flip him next year too??

It’s less about Hoffman for Hill and more about “buying” actually meaning acquiring 3 pitchers who were way better in the past. 
 

and losing out on a haul for Jeffers in the meantime while watching the 2 teams ahead of you in the standings getting better than the Twins got. 
 

But that’s exactly how I figured “buying” would go lol

[Coach]

Nice

[weitz41]

Don't care for the cost but they're far worse trades today. basically, look at any Red Sox trade. Still could use a starter looking Singer.... I guess.

 

[HarmonK03]

3 minutes ago, MMBoys93 said:

Just like I figured, this was a face saving exercise by Jim Pohlad. “We actually tried this time!”

What does Jim Pohlad have to do with this he turned the reins over to Tom.

[Mike Sixel]

I've come around on this specific trade. I'd prefer they kept HIll and dealt him in a package for a SP next year, but whatever. It is basically a HS guy who can't throw strikes for a closer or 8th inning guy for this year and next. So, it's a fine trade, if not what I'd do.

[MMBoys93]

Just now, HarmonK03 said:

What does Jim Pohlad have to do with this he turned the reins over to Tom.

Tom, Joe, Jim…maybe the Pohlad’s should be a little more creative with names. I’m bad enough with names lol

 

[Cris E]

Astros were out on Larnach once they picked up Varsho.  They only needed one OF and that one plays D too.

[Danchat]

Interesting, Hoffman has been quite good and his peripherals suggest his ERA is higher than it should be. He's under contract for $12.67M next year according to Spotrac, that's a big number for the bullpen - at least, the Falvine regime was terrified to pay any reliever that much.

I am a-okay with moving Hill, I don't believe in him as a prospect and I would assume his stock might fall given the rough year he's had. Of course he's still young for the level of competition, but I don't see him as being close to a top 10 prospect of ours.

I would have liked to see Klein get moved to the pen full-time, but it's better to move him than not to use him. IMO his ceiling is a middle reliever in the majors. Pena is listed as Fangraph's #48 prospect for us, I am fine moving a guy like that.

Gotta say though, I wish the 2023 team had acquired a couple good relievers at the deadline like Minter and Hoffman. It really isn't that hard to do, any that base team was a lot better than the 2026 squad. Zoll > Falvine for now... I just don't like the Kremer trade.

[HarmonK03]

Just now, MMBoys93 said:

Tom, Joe, Jim…maybe the Pohlad’s should be a little more creative with names. I’m bad enough with names lol

 

These trades or lack of are on Zoll is more my point.  He was authorized additional payroll, the owner is not out there scouting or evaluating players.  That is Zoll and his staff.

[Rufus]

The White Sox and Guardians made some big moves.  The Twins did not (at least yet, barring in last minute moves) mess with the big league team.  The Tiger sand Royals pretty much threw in the towel.

[JADBP]

20 minutes ago, Rufus said:

they gave up Dasan Hill and John Klein. and a minor league infeilder  Toronto like MN native pitchers I guess.  Two of their top 20 prospects.   I like Hill, but he is having a down year

 

Yeah…they could have just hung on to Varland… now the best closer in MLB.  As I said before, it will take years to clean up the F’in mess left behind by Falvey.   

[Twodogs]

2 minutes ago, MMBoys93 said:

It’s less about Hoffman for Hill and more about “buying” actually meaning acquiring 3 pitchers who were way better in the past. 
 

and losing out on a haul for Jeffers in the meantime while watching the 2 teams ahead of you in the standings getting better than the Twins got. 
 

But that’s exactly how I figured “buying” would go lol

Yeah getting into the either buying of selling is definitely a question as they are on the line to where they could go either way.  However, at the beginning of this season I would have guessed that they would be way way worse than where they are at now.  Also include had someone told us back in February that Lewis and Wallner would both spend a good amount of time in the minors we would have all been like go ahead and sell now.  But for some reason they are in it.  So here we are kind of in a quandary. 

[JD-TWINS]

17 minutes ago, MMBoys93 said:

Zoll is not it lol

Waited all day and this is the trade? A reliever who has sucked for 2 years and is still owed 15 million…and traded a borderline top 100 guy for him.

 

3.98 ERA over 43+ innings is not a poor pitcher…..typical relief roller coaster w/bad outings and then a few decent ones.

Nance? Adams will be sent down to make room.

Hoffman - Minter - Rojas - Morris - Gomez - Funderburk - Rogers ……… Matthews eventually?

Minter - Hoffman - Nance all are experienced, along with Rogers. That doesn’t get guys out but it helps in tight situations.

[LA Vikes Fan]

1 minute ago, Mike Sixel said:

I've come around on this specific trade. I'd prefer they kept HIll and dealt him in a package for a SP next year, but whatever. It is basically a HS guy who can't throw strikes for a closer or 8th inning guy for this year and next. So, it's a fine trade, if not what I'd do.

Exactly my thinking, and frankly that scares a little bit (LOL). We needed another late inning guy and Hoffman has done that and done it well in the past, including the last 2 months. He's a little like Griffin Jax was, a very good to great 7th and 8th inning guy who turns into a pumpkin in a save situation. I see Minter and he handling a lot the 8th inning duties with Morris in the 8th and about 1/3 of the save situations, and Gomez taking the other 2/3 of the save situations. 

[Mai.K]

I'm pretty happy with the two bullpen arms we added at the deadline. Kremer... I don't know. Looking at him again, I'm still pretty skeptical.

[Patzky]

Mize to the Padres. Welp . 

[Patzky]

Just now, Mai.K said:

I'm pretty happy with the two bullpen arms we added at the deadline. Kremer... I don't know. Looking at him again, I'm still pretty skeptical.

Better than SWR level and it's fine

[DJL44]

Hoffman is expensive enough that they could flip him in the offseason 

[USAFChief]

20 minutes ago, LambchoP said:

Curious if he's a rental or has control for next year?

Maybe read the OP?

[Mike Sixel]

3 minutes ago, JADBP said:

Yeah…they could have just hung on to Varland… now the best closer in MLB.  As I said before, it will take years to clean up the F’in mess left behind by Falvey.   

You mean their starting 3B, current CF, RF, and catchers? And Ryan, Bradley, and other pitchers?

This is the team largely built by Falvey. 

[weitz41]

5 minutes ago, MMBoys93 said:

Tom, Joe, Jim…maybe the Pohlad’s should be a little more creative with names. I’m bad enough with names lol

 

Thomas, Joshep and James. Better? ;P

[Permanent Twins Fan]

Good Trade.