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Week in Review: Opportunity Is Knocking
TL replied to Nick Nelson's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
I expect if Jeffers is traded it may be for prospects since most teams that need Jeffers won’t want to take from the major league roster. That’s fine, as we can use those prospects and/or some of our own to get the pitching help we need. But I’d only trade Jeffers for an offer you can’t refuse; better to lose him for nothing after a pennant chase than to trade for a mid prospect. If that comes to pass then I’d agree Caratini gets a bit more time at 1B, which is not a bad thing. And with Larnach, I think he has almost put himself into the untouchable category for the remainder of this year. He’s been too good in the leadoff spot and I doubt they’ll want to mess with that. Roden can be the late inning replacement for him when Buxton returns. Also hoping to see Jenkins before the end of July. He can spell Buxton in CF and otherwise split time with Keaschall in RF. Unfortunately that means Martin would have to go - maybe he can bring back something decent in relief. -
Trading Ryan Jeffers Would Be the Wrong Move for the Twins
TL replied to Sam Caulder's topic in Minnesota Twins Talk
That’s interesting. Caratini may actually be Jeffers. I won’t complain if they trade him - I just think it’s not worth it if the return is marginal while you’re trying to make the playoffs. -
Trading Ryan Jeffers Would Be the Wrong Move for the Twins
TL replied to Sam Caulder's topic in Minnesota Twins Talk
Not against trading him for a very good prospect return, but: Caratini and Jackson have done well in his absence, but they are not Ryan Jeffers. Twins are in contention and to they could really use him if they want to make a playoff run (that is the goal, right?). If the return isn’t great, then you end up with a fringe major leaguer like a Ryan Gallagher. I’d suggest keeping Jeffers for a playoff run could have bigger long-term benefits to the psyche of the team (and fans) than having another Ryan Gallagher in AA. Making playoffs, or even a legit playoff run, could increase revenue and result in higher payroll next year (no laughing). There are no bad 1 year contracts, even at 23MM; and if he declines then you get a decent prospect anyway through the comp pick. -
To me trading Larnach and Martin for bullpen help makes the most sense. Larnach has been great but I really think one or two of Roden/Jenkins/Emma will equal his contribution given their far superior defense and comparable on-base skills, even if early in their careers they don’t quite equal his offensive production. Martin would perhaps need to be pared with a lower level minor leaguer in a trade but he plays a good OF and still has some potential - and Keaschall/Clemens make him unnecessary.
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Victor Caratini Has Changed the Twins' Trade Deadline Outlook
TL replied to Cody Christie's topic in Minnesota Twins Talk
Caratini’s play definitely makes trading Jeffers more palatable for both this and next year. Someone pointed out to me 6 weeks ago that the QO is 23MM, and that is at the top or above what any catcher makes. I’d still consider it if the trade offers aren’t acceptable given it is only 1 year and Jeffers may prefer a long term deal anyway, so we’d get a comp pick. On the other hand, if he takes the QO we miss out on flipping him for prospects; and 30MM for the C position is rich for this club. I expect it is a moot point given the Yankees dire need for catching. -
What Should the Twins Do About Their Bullpen?
TL replied to Nick Nelson's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
This would be a way to accelerate the future while still trying to contend. Trade Larnach and Bell (and Wallner, Gray, Martin or a 2nd tier minors prospect if it helps bring anything back in a deal) for bullpen help. And Jeffers for a top pitching prospect at least. Bring up Culpepper, Jenkins, Roden and Emma (when healed up) and trust they can replace what was lost. May not quite get you there with the bats, but with the improved defense and bullpen they may be better overall.- 84 replies
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What Should the Twins Do About Their Bullpen?
TL replied to Nick Nelson's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Agree with pretty much everything here. Jeffers is really the only guy you “have” to trade or you get nothing in return. Fine on waiting on Ryan until the offseason unless they are blown away with an offer. But I think you need to target highest upside you can for Jeffers and not water it down by insisting on an established reliever as a secondary piece that may net you a lesser headliner.- 84 replies
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Monitoring/managing Prellip’s status and workload must be keeping Zoll and Shelton up at night. He’s looking like a front line guy for several years and they’ll be kicking themselves in hindsight if he gets over ~140 and then gets injured (again). I’d be thinking long-term with him, which you can tell they are by pushing back starts here and there… just a tough situation but obviously super positive development.
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They get Jeffers and Ober back in a few weeks and Culpepper should get promoted soon (and maybe Jenkins?). If Buxton can avoid a long term IL stint and the starting pitching continues to develop like it has been this team can stay in contention. Just maybe Rojas, Abel, CJ Culpepper and Preillip find themselves in the pen and it becomes a strength later in the year. (Both Preillip and Abel are still long term starters, but used out of pen to manage injury risk later this year). Too far fetched? Downside is Jeffers likely walks for nothing if you go for it this year so they may need to deal him anyway while still trying to contend.
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Kreidler can take the utility spot, but I would not call it “super” if you include a productive bat in that equation. No utility man the Twins have gotten in my memory (including Escobar or Castro) have hit like Clemens has this year while being able to play what appears to be an above average CF along with the right side of the infield. I love having Kreidler for his SS play and ability to also play the OF, but not instead of Clemens. Those two make Martin and any other 4th outfield very expendable.
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I think we'd find the Twins are not any different than other teams in that regard. It's typically infielders who are questionable to stick up the middle that get moved around. By way of example, Marek Houston has only played SS while Jesus Made is being moved all over the infield to increase "flexibility" (i.e., he may not be a SS). Twins fans have also been complaining about management not trying their outfielders at first base. You'd think they would do that if their first priority was making everyone a utility player.
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Having Clemens as a lefty to cover utility man on the right side of infield + outfield, and Kreidler as a righty for left side of infield + outfield provides a ton of flexibility for this team. Clemens was a great find and let’s hope Kreidler keeps it up and we are saying the same about him this time next year.
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The New Pitch Fueling Connor Prielipp's Success
TL replied to Sam Caulder's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
It would feel irresponsible to let him go more than 120 if they are not contending. If they are somehow still in it in September, maybe 10 to 15 more in the bullpen. -
By mid-July the team could be very intriguing: Add Culpepper, Jenkins, Jeffers, Roden, Abel, Rojas, Ober Subract Gray, Fedko, Jackson, Bell, Lawyerson, Lawrence, Adams (or other bullpen rando)
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Best paragraph of the yer so far , “A fraught day for pitchers indeed. Sullen-eyed and lethargic, any hurler who trudged to the mound looked; knowing their fate and the swollen ERAs that will soon follow with their entrance into the game. A rank curse. To see so clearly what awaits one yet to be helpless to stop the terribleness. At least they have a pile of money to cry into.
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