Wow. Twins Fans Really, Really Don’t Like The Pohlads.

[Eric Blonigen]

Common sense suggests that Twins fans aren’t in love with the Pohlad’s (lack of) commitment to fielding a winning team, but who knew it was this bad?

For those paying attention at home, over the past 18 months, the Pohlad ownership group has run the fanbase morale and goodwill into the ground in a number of ways. Recently, Twins Daily introduced a polling feature into the site, and you all have weighed in on a number of topics. One of those poll topics is “Do you approve of Twins' ownership?” The fans have spoken.

Since this particular poll went live on March 27th, 718 of you have shared your opinion. The results? Just 7% of you have said you think they are doing a good job. The other 665 of you said no.

For the 53 of you that said you support Twins ownership, I have some questions. For the rest of you, I have some thoughts on potential reasons why. Now, I’m going to run through a far-from-exhaustive list some of the actions they have taken that I suspect have rubbed you the wrong way, and led to you giving a thumbs-down.

“Right-Sizing the Payroll”
In 2023, the Minnesota Twins broke their 19-year long, 0-18 playoff curse. They beat the Blue Jays in four games and advanced to the ALDS. They won one of those games, too, against the Astros! Shortly after, ownership and team president Dave St Peter threw a large bucket of cold water all over the excitement of fans, announcing that it was time to “right-size” the payroll. While the stated reasons were tied to declining TV revenue and the collapse of the RSN model, it was still a gut-punch of epic proportions. I suspect some fans immediately lost interest at that point.

Failing to provide an appropriate budget
This is an easy gripe to make, and it generally applies to every year other than 2023. The Twin Cities are the 15th-largest media market in the country. In 2024, they had the 20th-largest payroll, despite being in a clear window of contention. Failing to spend at the deadline last season almost certainly cost the Twins a playoff berth, and cost the team some fans in the process. Coming into 2025, the Pohlads had an opportunity to compensate for the tough finish. Instead, the sense for most of the offseason was that the Twins would need to shed one or more contracts in order to add anyone of note. Just three weeks into the season, it’s painfully apparent that one more big bat would likely be the difference in the standings. To be clear, most reasonable fans aren’t asking for a top-10 budget. Getting to 15th, commensurate with market size, would net the Twins an additional $20 million to spend. That would have been the difference between Mickey Gasper being on the roster, and signing, say, Pete Alonso, or trading for Dylan Cease.

(Likely) creating leveraged debt, mortgaging the Twins future
Remember when the Pohlads were presumed to be close to selling the team to Justin Ishbia, the league did their diligence, and when it came time to looking at the books, he backed out?

Remember when details dropped a couple days later that the Twins have at least $425 million in debt accumulated over the past few years, despite the fact that the Twins receive roughly enough to cover payroll through TV, revenue sharing, and national media deals?

Yeah. Seems overwhelmingly likely that the Pohlads have borrowed liberally against the team to gain cash to fund their other (money-losing) enterprises. As a result, their asking price is higher than their valuation, according to Forbes. How much more difficult will that make it to sell the team? How likely is it that a purchaser will be willing to absorb that level of debt? And how likely is it that if they can’t find a buyer who will overpay, that they will instead cry poor and fail to give the front office a payroll that’s workable, especially when more players hit their second and third years of arbitration? Yikes.

Prioritizing profits over allowing fans to watch games
This is another biggie. Do you know the two best ways to grow a fanbase? First, win. Second, make it easy to watch games. Turns out, when you don’t do either, you actually just push your fans away. Going into the 2024 season, the Twins and Bally had broken up. The Twins were committed to making games accessible to fans, to the point that brand new TV play-by-play man Cory Provus went on record saying there would be no more blackouts. Just a few short months later, the Twins were back on Bally (with blackouts), and there was a carriage dispute with many TV providers that further limited access. Now, this may have been directly under Dave St Peter's purview, but the bottom-line focus at the very least was directed by the Pohlads. Does it really seem like a good idea to re-up with a bankrupt entity that you already know has done you dirty? Probably not.

Bonus: trying to contract the franchise
Yeah, I know I said I was talking about recent things from the past year and a half. You know what though? This one still cuts deep for me, even though it was over 20 years ago. Sports teams are something that inspire such passion, such loyalty, that trying to get rid of a team to pocket a few bucks is just Cruella-de-Vil-level profiteering and villainy that I wouldn’t be shocked if this still looms large for many.

It's undeniable that some combination of these factors have led to declining team interest, and attendance as well.

I mentioned above that this list is far-from-exhaustive, and it is. But now, I want to hear from you. Which of these have most demoralized you? Or is there a big topic that I’m missing? Join the discussion below, and let’s commiserate together. 7%? I want to hear from you too! What is everyone else missing?

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[Vanimal46]

The TV debacle in 2024 was the final straw for me. It showed just how far they will go to make an extra $20 million. 

[Chris Hove]

I love this article. You hit on all the points. I think winning that Blue Jays series in the playoffs started all of this ownership mess. The Twins win a playoff series, and then the next year, the Pohlads slash the payroll by $30 million and want a king's ransom for the team. What a joke.

[thelanges5]

Baseball gods gave us a small window and instead of pushing the chips in the Pohlads right size the business. Good article. Using the Twins to leverage $425m of debt helps to show that the 3rd generation Pohlads haven’t made good business decisions. Good luck getting $1.7b with that debt, the TV situation, potential lockout, and this on-field performance. Talk about reaping what you sow. 

[Mark G]

While all of the above article is true, and it sticks in my craw as well, for me, personally, it is more about the product year in and year out that is highest on my list.  I simply don't care for the style of ball this team plays.  From the players the FO pursues to the way the manager plays them, I just don't care for the way the team approaches the game.  I accept the fact I am old school, and I don't give a rats rear end about all the expanded stats (give me the triple crown numbers every day and twice on Sunday), but the over emphasis on these, and others, just don't excite me the way the game used to.  I have said many times on this site that the game has not changed; only the way it is managed has, and I simply don't care for the way it is managed anymore.  And this organization is married to the trends, so it is no longer as much fun to watch anymore,  Add to that everything in the article above, and as much as I love the game, and as much as I have been a Twins fan for close to 60 years, I will follow my team every day and root for the guys, I will not pay to see this team play the style it does and give to this ownership money that I have earned and that they have not.  I am not naive enough to think that new ownership automatically brings back everything I love; I accept that they may be new age, so to speak, as well, but hope springs eternal when it comes to my sport and my team.  I just want to see a good game of baseball as I know and love it, win or lose, and what I see today just isn't it.  I don't want to see strike outs all day long, either by my pitcher or my batters.  See the ball, hit the ball, catch the ball, and run like hell until you are out (or until you are safe).  Baseball.  That's the game I played and that is the game I want to see.  We don't play that way anymore, not because the game has changed, but because that is the way we manage it (along with others, I know).  Anyway, if you actually read all of this, I thank you, and apologize for making you.  🤭

[The Great Hambino]

The worst thing about right-sizing the payroll is that it was only months after apparently, uh, wrong-sizing it with the signing of Correa and extension to Lopez.  Locking up so much payroll on a couple of players when you're about to slash the overall budget was wildly irresponsible.  They can't make a credible claim that they didn't see the need to reduce payroll coming.  The TV revenue issue shouldn't have been a surprise.  DSG was already in bankruptcy and the crumbling of the RSN model could be seen from miles away by anyone paying attention.  It can't have been Falvey going rogue with those signings.  If he had gone against ownership wishes on something that big, he would not have been granted more power. 

This is entirely on whomever in the Pohlad family is calling the shots.  I'm not even sure if it's actually Joe running the show anymore.  I think he might be a puppet.  He's like if you built a human from scratch but blew your whole budget on the haircut. 

[tony&rodney]

Take a walk ..... actually take 10 walks around lakes, parks, city streets or in general public places. Make it as random as possible. Do half of those strolls in outstate cities (Rochester, Mankato, Duluth, St. Cloud, and Moorhead are suggestions). Ask 100 people on each walk one question, "What do you think about the Pohlads?" Ask the question in a tone similar to how you would say, "Hi, how are you?" Be careful to be certain no person you query has heard you ask anyone else the question or that your appearance gives any hint at any relationship to baseball (hat, shirt, etc.). 100 people would give you a reasonable idea and 1000 people would give you a better idea and then you might have an idea about what people think about the Pohlads. Asking Aaron Gleeman that question isn't going to tell you much.

FWIW, I could care less about the Pohlads. Full disclosure - I'm not working around Lake Harriet right now.

[Adam Houck]

It was really difficult to "beat the Blue Jays in four games" in a best-of-three game series.

[Vanimal46]

21 minutes ago, tony&rodney said:

Take a walk ..... actually take 10 walks around lakes, parks, city streets or in general public places. Make it as random as possible. Do half of those strolls in outstate cities (Rochester, Mankato, Duluth, St. Cloud, and Moorhead are suggestions). Ask 100 people on each walk one question, "What do you think about the Pohlads?" Ask the question in a tone similar to how you would say, "Hi, how are you?" Be careful to be certain no person you query has heard you ask anyone else the question or that your appearance gives any hint at any relationship to baseball (hat, shirt, etc.). 100 people would give you a reasonable idea and 1000 people would give you a better idea and then you might have an idea about what people think about the Pohlads. Asking Aaron Gleeman that question isn't going to tell you much.

FWIW, I could care less about the Pohlads. Full disclosure - I'm not working around Lake Harriet right now.

What are you hoping to conclude from that sample? 

[spanman2]

1 hour ago, Twinsfan2121 said:

I love this article. You hit on all the points. I think winning that Blue Jays series in the playoffs started all of this ownership mess. The Twins win a playoff series, and then the next year, the Pohlads slash the payroll by $30 million and want a king's ransom for the team. What a joke.

Well said...think of all the momentum you had with the fanbase if you are ownership...imagine if they said we are very close...we are willing up pony up more $$$ to get to where we think we can and should be.  The increase in attendance etc. they goes with increased fan interest would have likely pd for the increase in payroll.  

[Chris Hove]

5 minutes ago, spanman2 said:

Well said...think of all the momentum you had with the fanbase if you are ownership...imagine if they said we are very close...we are willing up pony up more $$$ to get to where we think we can and should be.  The increase in attendance etc. they goes with increased fan interest would have likely pd for the increase in payroll.  

Yep, I agree. Once popularity was sky high, they thought they could just put a crazy price tag on the team, and they would have several suitors. Well, they did, then they still wanted to have controlling interest in the team. Since then, no more interest. They don't care about the product. 

[Western SD Fan]

I’m going to give one additional thought to be considered. The Twins season was the first sports season to come out of COVID but the draconian COVID restrictions the state of MN put on them killed a summer where they could have been the only game in town with a lot of pent up energy after being locked down for over a year. I start here due to the excitement of the 2019 season. Then the COVID 2020 season. After two years of being locked out of going to a game, then we see the tragedy unfold. I see this team trending in a similar fashion as many of our beloved TV and movie shows. They have lost most of the casual fans and quickly losing the die hard crowd. Eventually anger turns to apathy and then it’s over. I hope here will be interest back soon as I love following this team, but I don’t think it will change until ownership changes, regardless of what a new ownership might do.

[LambchoP]

We desperately need a new owner who actually cares about the team and wants to win. Not a super rich group of people who own the team just so they can borrow money against it to find other ventures....

[sidllama]

I'm not a fan of Pohlad ownership for all of the good reasons mentioned above.

But just because I'm a born contrarian, here's the "steelman" case for their behavior:

If you're a billionaire who finds themselves cash poor (the billionaire version of owning a large house, but you still owe 30% of the principle, and you have a pretty low paying job, and the roof needs repair) you can find yourself in a situation where you really have to end up in black every year.

Ideally you want your billionaire owner to have a bunch of other cash and income streams so they can spend money to have a great team even if they occasionally have a season that doesn't pan out. But thanks to their other investments, it seems like this is no longer true for the Twins ownership.

[Craig Arko]

I dislike them for reasons having nothing to do with the Twins. But then, plenty of other rich folks also have prominent places on my sh*t list.

[Blyleven2011]

2 hours ago, Mark G said:

While all of the above article is true, and it sticks in my craw as well, for me, personally, it is more about the product year in and year out that is highest on my list.  I simply don't care for the style of ball this team plays.  From the players the FO pursues to the way the manager plays them, I just don't care for the way the team approaches the game.  I accept the fact I am old school, and I don't give a rats rear end about all the expanded stats (give me the triple crown numbers every day and twice on Sunday), but the over emphasis on these, and others, just don't excite me the way the game used to.  I have said many times on this site that the game has not changed; only the way it is managed has, and I simply don't care for the way it is managed anymore.  And this organization is married to the trends, so it is no longer as much fun to watch anymore,  Add to that everything in the article above, and as much as I love the game, and as much as I have been a Twins fan for close to 60 years, I will follow my team every day and root for the guys, I will not pay to see this team play the style it does and give to this ownership money that I have earned and that they have not.  I am not naive enough to think that new ownership automatically brings back everything I love; I accept that they may be new age, so to speak, as well, but hope springs eternal when it comes to my sport and my team.  I just want to see a good game of baseball as I know and love it, win or lose, and what I see today just isn't it.  I don't want to see strike outs all day long, either by my pitcher or my batters.  See the ball, hit the ball, catch the ball, and run like hell until you are out (or until you are safe).  Baseball.  That's the game I played and that is the game I want to see.  We don't play that way anymore, not because the game has changed, but because that is the way we manage it (along with others, I know).  Anyway, if you actually read all of this, I thank you, and apologize for making you.  🤭

I to will not spend any of my money on this organization  , I passed on twins fest  , spring training  and won't spend money to go to target field , BUT I WILL TAKE GIFTS , I hope the pohlads are reading this and realize the only way to put fans in the stands is to give us diehard twins fans good quality competitive baseball games ( win or lose ) we are the real fans that support and watch this team , im not sure they are promoting their product to the right fans ..

This old but young at heart fan liked your post , win or lose , they need to play more exciting and competitive games ...

[bean5302]

1. Cutting payroll immediately after the playoffs. I tacked on 2024 to my season tickets during the Blue Jays playoffs, the Pohlads took every bit of fan momentum they had and absolutely trashed it. Selling my club level tickets as low as $18 a seat last year burned.

2. TV debacle. Whatever potential their was to bring fans back into the fold was destroyed when the Twins awarded Dave St. Peter with another year of running the show and the subsequent re-upping with Diamond Sports despite the obvious issues. Speaking as somebody who dumped a ton of money into the Twins last year, I was pretty infuriated because it hurt the value of my purchase.

3. Correa jersey day. I had a friend fly in from out of town. We arrived before the gates opened. Season ticket holder line ran out of jerseys before the main line. Are you serious? The team doesn't care about its season ticket holder base (a few other things I was disappointed with as a season ticket holder in previous years as well). I was down right po'ed. I was pretty much done at this point.

4. No move at the deadline. Really? After all they screwed up, they weren't even willing to make it up to the fans by doing right by us. After all the bungling, at least making a trade deadline move as a good will gesture was the least they could do.

5. We're selling! But not really. Way to telegraph the ownership was done with owning the team and didn't believe in the fan base. Then, set a sky high price to pay off their other business debt, botch negotiations, and throw a few bucks into the payroll to pretend to make it all up? 

The Pohalds have made quite a few moves over the past few years which have hurt the fan base. The playoff win in 2023 made up for a lot of it, but they immediately set to work on destroying any good will the fans had one the Astros series was over.

[The Great Hambino]

9 minutes ago, bean5302 said:

1. Cutting payroll immediately after the playoffs. I tacked on 2024 to my season tickets during the Blue Jays playoffs, the Pohlads took every bit of fan momentum they had and absolutely trashed it. Selling my club level tickets as low as $18 a seat last year burned.

2. TV debacle. Whatever potential their was to bring fans back into the fold was destroyed when the Twins awarded Dave St. Peter with another year of running the show and the subsequent re-upping with Diamond Sports despite the obvious issues. Speaking as somebody who dumped a ton of money into the Twins last year, I was pretty infuriated because it hurt the value of my purchase.

3. Correa jersey day. I had a friend fly in from out of town. We arrived before the gates opened. Season ticket holder line ran out of jerseys before the main line. Are you serious? The team doesn't care about its season ticket holder base (a few other things I was disappointed with as a season ticket holder in previous years as well). I was down right po'ed. I was pretty much done at this point.

4. No move at the deadline. Really? After all they screwed up, they weren't even willing to make it up to the fans by doing right by us. After all the bungling, at least making a trade deadline move as a good will gesture was the least they could do.

5. We're selling! But not really. Way to telegraph the ownership was done with owning the team and didn't believe in the fan base. Then, set a sky high price to pay off their other business debt, botch negotiations, and throw a few bucks into the payroll to pretend to make it all up? 

The Pohalds have made quite a few moves over the past few years which have hurt the fan base. The playoff win in 2023 made up for a lot of it, but they immediately set to work on destroying any good will the fans had one the Astros series was over.

Items 2, 3, and 5 can all fall under the umbrella of over-promising and under-delivering.  With the right amount of mental gymnastics, item 1 can as well.

no wonder the only emotions they can evoke from fans these days are disgust and apathy

[Western SD Fan]

1 hour ago, sidllama said:

I'm not a fan of Pohlad ownership for all of the good reasons mentioned above.

But just because I'm a born contrarian, here's the "steelman" case for their behavior:

If you're a billionaire who finds themselves cash poor (the billionaire version of owning a large house, but you still owe 30% of the principle, and you have a pretty low paying job, and the roof needs repair) you can find yourself in a situation where you really have to end up in black every year.

Ideally you want your billionaire owner to have a bunch of other cash and income streams so they can spend money to have a great team even if they occasionally have a season that doesn't pan out. But thanks to their other investments, it seems like this is no longer true for the Twins ownership.

 I agree in principle that any owner shouldn't expect to run a business (even a city institution such as a sports franchise) in the red forever. But if they cannot competently run a team anymore, they should have put the team on the market 12 to 18 months ago while everyone was still excited about the trajectory of the team.

[spanman2]

2 hours ago, Twinsfan2121 said:

Yep, I agree. Once popularity was sky high, they thought they could just put a crazy price tag on the team, and they would have several suitors. Well, they did, then they still wanted to have controlling interest in the team. Since then, no more interest. They don't care about the product. 

From a business perspective you would think further investment in the franchise on field and tv etc. would yield more success which would bring the price of the franchise up at time of sale...opposite of what they did.  

[mikelink45]

I have stated this before, but it summarizes my feelings about the Pohlads - How can such super rich people not understand public relations?  Do they think there is sympathy for the rich when they make bad decisions?  Do we care that you might only get 1.5 billion instead of 1.7?  Come on Pohlads, try to read TD and get an idea of how fans think and feel. 

[CoachDW]

I agree with what Mark G. posted; my main beef is I simply don't care for the offensive style of ball this team plays and haven’t since the Rocco & Falvey era began.

While I enjoy a pitcher who throws a gem, or a defense that makes jaw-dropping defensive plays, the most exciting part of baseball to me is the ability of teams to perform on offense. Homeruns are fun and I love seeing them, but I also appreciate teams whose offense can consistently get men on base, steal a base and take the extra base, and put pressure on the pitcher and defense on the basepaths with speed and aggression. Falvey and Rocco have assembled players who don’t do any of those things.

I believe that outside of only a few players, the Twins overall team speed is below major league average. Almost never stealing a base, running station-to-station while waiting around for a big blast and striking out at a high rate is a dull brand of baseball, and that’s what we have seen under the current regime. Contrast this with the exciting ball being played by the Brewers, for instance, who had 6 steals in the first inning and a club-record nine in their 14-1 win over the Athletics yesterday.  

“That's one of the ways we win,” Brewers manager Pat Murphy said. “We win by collecting hits, taking walks, stealing bases, having the threat to steal, which gives you a better pitch to hit sometimes. That's one of the ways we can beat you.”

The Brewers currently are first in all baseball in stolen bases while only six teams have fewer steals than the Twins. The Brewers are fifth in runs scored, while only four teams in the majors have scored fewer runs than the Twins. The Brewers don’t need to hit homeruns to score, as they have hit only six more home runs this season than Minnesota, and only three teams have hit fewer dingers than Rocco’s team. The Brewers are definitely not the Harvey’s Wallbangers of old, and they are also not an offensive juggernaut as they are below league average this season in walks, homeruns, slugging, OPS, OPS+ and league average in on-base percentage.  But they are first in steals and fifth in runs scored, and are exciting to watch.

Make no mistake, I am a lifelong Twins fan and no lover of Milwaukee, but the Brewers have an offensive style of play that I find fun to watch, and one that seemingly is totally foreign to Minnesota. The aggressive way they play is working for the Brewers, who have a winning record while statistically having worse pitching so far this season than the moribund Twins. Outside of the pitchers, Falvey and Rocco have put together a team of bulky, unathletic plodders who are defensively challenged and playing uninspired baseball that is hard to watch, and Twins ownership is not holding them accountable and apparently doesn’t even care. That’s my beef.

[BillyBallLives]

For all the reasons already mentioned, until this team is owned by someone who values fans, I’m out. 

What I haven't seen mentioned is:

For me, I’ve avoided Minneapolis altogether since the Floyd riots—mainly due to safety concerns, poor leadership, and how much the city has changed.

[spanman2]

45 minutes ago, CoachDW said:

I agree with what Mark G. posted; my main beef is I simply don't care for the offensive style of ball this team plays and haven’t since the Rocco & Falvey era began.

While I enjoy a pitcher who throws a gem, or a defense that makes jaw-dropping defensive plays, the most exciting part of baseball to me is the ability of teams to perform on offense. Homeruns are fun and I love seeing them, but I also appreciate teams whose offense can consistently get men on base, steal a base and take the extra base, and put pressure on the pitcher and defense on the basepaths with speed and aggression. Falvey and Rocco have assembled players who don’t do any of those things.

I believe that outside of only a few players, the Twins overall team speed is below major league average. Almost never stealing a base, running station-to-station while waiting around for a big blast and striking out at a high rate is a dull brand of baseball, and that’s what we have seen under the current regime. Contrast this with the exciting ball being played by the Brewers, for instance, who had 6 steals in the first inning and a club-record nine in their 14-1 win over the Athletics yesterday.  

“That's one of the ways we win,” Brewers manager Pat Murphy said. “We win by collecting hits, taking walks, stealing bases, having the threat to steal, which gives you a better pitch to hit sometimes. That's one of the ways we can beat you.”

The Brewers currently are first in all baseball in stolen bases while only six teams have fewer steals than the Twins. The Brewers are fifth in runs scored, while only four teams in the majors have scored fewer runs than the Twins. The Brewers don’t need to hit homeruns to score, as they have hit only six more home runs this season than Minnesota, and only three teams have hit fewer dingers than Rocco’s team. The Brewers are definitely not the Harvey’s Wallbangers of old, and they are also not an offensive juggernaut as they are below league average this season in walks, homeruns, slugging, OPS, OPS+ and league average in on-base percentage.  But they are first in steals and fifth in runs scored, and are exciting to watch.

Make no mistake, I am a lifelong Twins fan and no lover of Milwaukee, but the Brewers have an offensive style of play that I find fun to watch, and one that seemingly is totally foreign to Minnesota. The aggressive way they play is working for the Brewers, who have a winning record while statistically having worse pitching so far this season than the moribund Twins. Outside of the pitchers, Falvey and Rocco have put together a team of bulky, unathletic plodders who are defensively challenged and playing uninspired baseball that is hard to watch, and Twins ownership is not holding them accountable and apparently doesn’t even care. That’s my beef.

https://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/MIN/2006.shtml  If memory serves me correctly the '06 was the team Guillen referred to some of the Twins as the 'little piranhas'...those low BA would be great for some of the players on this squad.  Guys got on base played fundamental ball and took the action to the guys in the field.  

[Phil]

When I look to judge the Pohlads I also look at the ownership of Vikings and Timberwolves. The Vikings are regularly praised for their facilities, how they treat their players, and the game day experience. Regarding the Timberwolves, almost right from the time Glen Taylor announced the sale, they started winning with consistency, became more fun to watch, and we have owners that stand-up for their players.

With the Twins, we have had the same family the past 40+ years complaining about market unfairness, facilities, player salaries, revenue, and even the lack of fans. It seems that when the Pohlads do sign a player, it feels like an obligation (Mauer, Correa, Lopez) and want praise...instead of recognizing that it is their responsibility to create a winning team.

[Brock Beauchamp]

19 hours ago, Vanimal46 said:

The TV debacle in 2024 was the final straw for me. It showed just how far they will go to make an extra $20 million. 

This was also the point where whatever goodwill I had left for ownership evaporated.

[TheLeviathan]

5 hours ago, thelanges5 said:

Baseball gods gave us a small window and instead of pushing the chips in the Pohlads right size the business. Good article. Using the Twins to leverage $425m of debt helps to show that the 3rd generation Pohlads haven’t made good business decisions. Good luck getting $1.7b with that debt, the TV situation, potential lockout, and this on-field performance. Talk about reaping what you sow. 

Unfortunately....we're the ones who reap what they sowed.  We're stuck with them.

[DocBauer]

Never been a particular fan of the Pohlad's, but I've also never had any real issues until after the 2023 season. They've invested in complexes and new technology, kept the payroll around 17 for many years, etc.

But to cut payroll after what was accomplished in 2023 and call it "right sizing", state that you had kept payroll higher than you felt comfortable with, and then have it be known that the team was over $400M in debt because of $ borrowed from/against the franchise, and then ask any potential buyer to bail you out of your debt has me now very much on the anti-ownership side of the argument. 

The TV deals and other instances have had a part of souring me. But to sacrifice the actual TWINS product because you don't have the $ resources to invest because you've screwed up said finances in the first place is frustrating, to keep it "G" rated.

[Vanimal46]

31 minutes ago, Brock Beauchamp said:

This was also the point where whatever goodwill I had left for ownership evaporated.

The funny thing is they were actually building a lot of goodwill from 2019-2022! The Bomba squad year was fun, even though they didn’t do enough to supplement pitching. 2020 the Pohlads paid all of the minor leaguers and org staff full salaries when other teams chose not to. 2022 they make a big splash signing Correa and adding salary at the trade deadline. But all of that was destroyed in the 2023-24 offseason 

[tony&rodney]

5 hours ago, Vanimal46 said:

What are you hoping to conclude from that sample? 

Outside of Twins Daily, who even knows who the Pohlads are? Who owns the Texas Rangers, the Baltimore Ravens, the Montreal Canadiens?

Too much emphasis on the owners.