Twins 0, White Sox 9: Everything Stinks on the South Side

[cHawk]

They’re a dead team walking at this point.

Rocco and the FO have run their course. The only end in sight is a complete cleaning of house.

[T.O.]

2 hours ago, gregens said:

I wish the Rocco era would come to an end asap.   It certainly wouldn't fix all the problems, but it's the lowest hanging fruit.

Can't happen soon enough for me. Other than an occasional rant at an umpire (that now that I think about it I don't think I've seen in a long time) the guy shows no emotions, no interest, no spark, it's almost like he's not there. The Twins need a presence at the helm. Without that there really isn't a ship.

[JD-TWINS]

4 minutes ago, Aggies7 said:

He must have really wanted to get some at bats from keirsey and Julien /s

and like, Byron and Carlos were set to bat in the top of the 4th when they were pulled. What sense could it possibly have made to just not let them bat???

They play 15 more straight days w/o a day off. Down 9-0 starting the 4th, he decided the 2 guys that need rest at some point, to stay fresh, should sit the rest of the day. Sound Management. 

Larnach & Wallner will be ready to go Tuesday & the #2 & #3 hitters got the majority of the day off as well.

[Patzky]

5 minutes ago, JD-TWINS said:

What makes it more fun than Lee - CC - Keaschall - Lewis? That’s my hope for June!

You can't spell Eeles without Lee?

[Patzky]

You know the Braves are 0-4? And hurt and now a suspension.. could always be worse 

[Aggies7]

18 minutes ago, JD-TWINS said:

They play 15 more straight days w/o a day off. Down 9-0 starting the 4th, he decided the 2 guys that need rest at some point, to stay fresh, should sit the rest of the day. Sound Management. 

Larnach & Wallner will be ready to go Tuesday & the #2 & #3 hitters got the majority of the day off as well.

I had to edit my comment. They have a scheduled off day this Friday after having just had one last Friday. That excuse holds no water for me

[T.O.]

16 minutes ago, umterp23 said:

Correa had to talk about not worried about spring training results went he went 0-for,  I guess when you are pulling in $30+MM, results be damned.

Correa has proven he is good and defense and CAN get the clutch hits but since signing his big contract he doesn't very often or often enough. I don't know what goes on the field or in the clubhouse but I wonder if he isn't trying too hard to earn that salary, trying to be be THE team leader. I wish he'd stop and just play as a team member not a team leader.

[sweetmusicviola16]

23 minutes ago, Aggies7 said:

Not buying that. Overlooking the fact that they are 1 for the season at the plate, are Byron and Carlos going to play the 15 straight days, each game, all game? Doubt it. Didn’t they just have an off day Friday? Come on.

According to my schedule this Friday is also an off date. Not buying that one either. Gamers play. If Buxton and Correa can't play out a 9-0 game they contributed to then it's time for them to move on.

 

[Aggies7]

Just now, sweetmusicviola16 said:

According to my schedule this Friday is also an off date. Not buying that one either. Gamers play. If Buxton and Correa can't play out a 9-0 game they contributed to then it's time for them to move on.

 

Yeah I forgot they had one built in for the home opener. I don’t think this is even a conversation if they were pulled in the 7/8 inning. And not even from a “hey we can still come back!” standpoint. That wasn’t happening. 

[USAFChief]

34 minutes ago, JD-TWINS said:

They play 15 more straight days w/o a day off. Down 9-0 starting the 4th, he decided the 2 guys that need rest at some point, to stay fresh, should sit the rest of the day. Sound Management. 

Larnach & Wallner will be ready to go Tuesday & the #2 & #3 hitters got the majority of the day off as well.

In your relentless quest to defend Rocco you could at least endeavor to get simple facts correct.

[sweetmusicviola16]

2 minutes ago, Aggies7 said:

Yeah I forgot they had one built in for the home opener. I don’t think this is even a conversation if they were pulled in the 7/8 inning. And not even from a “hey we can still come back!” standpoint. That wasn’t happening. 

Absolutely, late inning subs in a blowout is normal. Further if you want Kiersey and Julien to get game time then put them in the lineup tomorrow from the get go and let them have at it. They may even provide a spark. 

[Hosken Bombo Disco]

It’s just crazy. 

[sweetmusicviola16]

5 minutes ago, USAFChief said:

In your relentless quest to defend Rocco you could at least endeavor to get simple facts correct.

I won't state this as fact, it's my opinion, but the "manager" told his team to quit today.

[strumdatjag]

2 hours ago, $tryf4Life said:

Who they gonna sell? Some players are gonna have to start performing for there to be interest in this pile of garbage. 

Looks like our top trade pieces are Dobber and McGaughey (you spell it).  

[LastOnePicked]

2 hours ago, AugieOjedaFanboy said:

I kind of feel like it's almost pointless getting rid of him before the team is sold

1) The team may not be sold this year, or for a long time yet. How long do you want this style of play to continue?

2) The Twins have young players who need proper development and coaching right now.

3) It is never pointless to fire an underperforming leader. Not doing so sends a message that higher levels of achievement simply aren't expected.

[Bodie]

A depressing performance against an historically (literally!) awful team. 

Wondering when last the Pale Hos last won a 9+ run shutout, but any answer will only leave me feeling worse...

#FireRoccHead

[Lasorda_This_Out]

All those still in Favor of the Rocco Baldelli experience, raise your hand?

[IndyTwinsFan]

13 minutes ago, Lasorda_This_Out said:

All those still in Favor of the Rocco Baldelli experience, raise your hand?

No one will see my hand raised on this point.

[darwin22]

2 hours ago, T.O. said:

Can't happen soon enough for me. Other than an occasional rant at an umpire (that now that I think about it I don't think I've seen in a long time) the guy shows no emotions, no interest, no spark, it's almost like he's not there. The Twins need a presence at the helm. Without that there really isn't a ship.

Attitude reflects leadership.

[DocBauer]

Deep breath!

"Come on Byron, 4 disappointing games to begin the season but 158 more to go. This offense isn't THIS BAD. The offensive talent isn't THIS BAD. This team isn't THIS BAD. A 4 game losing streak sucks at any time, but we've got a long way to go. Deep breaths! Don't panic."

That's all I got at the moment.

[mnfireman]

https://www.si.com/mlb/twins/minnesota-twins-news/never-give-up-twins-pull-buxton-correa-after-3-innings-as-white-sox-hammer-paddack-01jqpsdw5tbs

[ziggy]

I have a feeling that Jayce Tingler would be named interim manager if Rocco was fired.

Tingler was fired from the Padres job for the same reason Rocco is on the hot seat, underperforming team and too much commitment to the IPAD and statistics. 

Not sure if that would be an upgrade or just a lateral move.

[rv78]

2 hours ago, JD-TWINS said:

They play 15 more straight days w/o a day off. Down 9-0 starting the 4th, he decided the 2 guys that need rest at some point, to stay fresh, should sit the rest of the day. Sound Management. 

Larnach & Wallner will be ready to go Tuesday & the #2 & #3 hitters got the majority of the day off as well.

Totally disagree. What makes you think Rocco hasn't already scheduled off days for the 2 players, that get babied more than any others on this team, if there was 15 straight days? Which there isn't. What they need when they are floundering like they are is, at bats. I haven't ever seen a player get better or get back in a groove by sitting on the bench. I think they are getting PAID TO PLAY, not ride the pine.

[Danchat]

5 minutes ago, ziggy said:

Not sure if that would be an upgrade or just a lateral move.

Nothing will change until the regime is replaced. Otherwise Falvey will just replace Rocco with a similar manager.

[Aggies7]

Is it fair to question if the FO never intended to compete this year, and brought Rocco back so they wouldn’t saddle a new guy with a roster they knew would be bad?

[CoachDW]

As a person who is never quick to pull the trigger on a manager or head coach solely due to their won-loss record,  I feel that it is evident that Rocco Baldelli should be shown the door as manager of the Minnesota Twins. After watching his entire tenure, it is my opinion that he is a poor in-game manager who has no idea how to motivate players. His leadership style is so passive that there is never any sense of urgency, just a "stay the course" attitude that constantly prevails, even in the throws of last fall's disastrous tailspin. In his post-game comments today, he stated that with the score the way it was, it was important for Buxton & Correa to "get off their feet" as if it were the dog days of August instead of the season's fourth game. Yes, from a very logical point of view maybe pulling them made some sense because it is a long year, but it definitely sent the wrong message at the wrong time. I felt for certain that last year's late-season collapse would be the impetus to finally give Rocco the axe, and I was certainly hoping that would occur, but apparently Twins fans are stuck with more of his poor managing that we have already had to suffer through for years. It would just be sad if it wasn't so infuriating. 

[Schmoeman5]

4 hours ago, sweetmusicviola16 said:

But sitting your two top players  in the 4th inning gave the team the message that they can quit. Rocco better figure out how to rectify this one, and soon. Did they need to sit because it was cold? I worked all day out in the chilly weather. Once your working it's out of the mind. If the same isn't the case for Buck and Correa then they aren't players. 

Just like left right platooning. Rocco has pulled Correa and Buxton in every blowout they've been involved in. I mentioned it a couple years ago. Waving the white flag is never good. But this is not anything new. 

[David HK]

I'm feeling a little like Flounder in Animal House, listening to the Twinkie hype--

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYQCb3qrBpo

[Schmoeman5]

1 hour ago, Aggies7 said:

Is it fair to question if the FO never intended to compete this year, and brought Rocco back so they wouldn’t saddle a new guy with a roster they knew would be bad?

No.

[Aerodeliria]

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