Rumor: Another Correa rumor....

[mnfireman]

Just to keep fueling the fire a bit...... ?

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2023/01/reports-mets-frustrated-by-correa-negotiations-twins-have-rejoined-bidding.html

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[Fire Dan Gladden]

Wouldn't that be something...

[m-i-e-n-t-k-i-e-w-i-c-z]

At this point, whatever happens, it happens. While I'd love to have someone with his baseball acumen around to balance out the buffoonery of Rocco et al., is it worth it to have another zillion years with Boras?

[Brock Beauchamp]

I can't really say what I've been hearing but I'm personally becoming convinced this is actually going to happen.

[Nine of twelve]

Weirder things have happened. Ever since the Mets started getting cold feet I started to entertain that glimmer in my mind. If the Twins do sign him (still a BIG BIG if) I expect all the people who bashed the front office for apparently letting him get away to apologize. It may turn out that Falvine were timid like a fox all along.

[Brock Beauchamp]

1 minute ago, bap3141 said:

Sincere question... not trolling. I'm new here so I don't know everyone. Are you connected to the team, somehow?

Second hand information from the other owners who are connected to the team.

[Parfigliano]

1 minute ago, bap3141 said:

If they do sign him, I just hope he WANTS to be here. Clearly, he'd have preferred the Mets. The Twins don't need another Tommy Herr situation. 

He WANTS to be wherever he makes the most money.   

[Dman]

Wow I can't believe it.  Still just how bad is this leg issue if even the free spending Mets don't want to the deal without more protection.  I mean if Borras and Correa are certain it is not going to be an issue then just include the language that if that leg becomes an issues the contract changes.  

I would love Correa for the next five its the five years after that that worry me.

[Brock Beauchamp]

5 minutes ago, bap3141 said:

Owners of this site? Or the Pohlad's? 

Twins Daily

[adjacent]

According to the article, the Twins are more willing to take risks. Of course. After all, we never had problems with injured players, did we??

[Rik19753]

14 minutes ago, Nine of twelve said:

Weirder things have happened. Ever since the Mets started getting cold feet I started to entertain that glimmer in my mind. If the Twins do sign him (still a BIG BIG if) I expect all the people who bashed the front office for apparently letting him get away to apologize. It may turn out that Falvine were timid like a fox all along.

I don't think the FO should be getting any praise even if they were to sign Correa, at least not yet. And that's coming from me who is a lot higher on this FO than others. Two teams that are practically begging free agents to take their money backed out of deals with Correa, and given the recent injury history of trade acquisitions/signings by this FO, you would have to wait for at least 3 years (or dare I say, a WS victory) to give any kind of credit to the FO.

It would also not change the fact that they were one fluky Correa injury away from having an absolutely horrendous offseason.

[Brandon]

I wonder if MLB stepped in and said something to Cohen along the lines if teams lose revenue cause he signs all of the star players the league will suffer as a whole for it and he needs to let other teams sign a star player for that reason.  

[AlwaysinModeration]

Which happens first?

Correa contract
House has speaker 

[Trov]

56 minutes ago, Parfigliano said:

He WANTS to be wherever he makes the most money.   

If he really is seeking the most money in his pocket, then going to Mets over Twins is wrong call.  Yes, the total in the contract was 30 mil more, but over 2 additional years, and with the taxes and cost of living, he would actually have more money in his pocket with the Twins. Most players do not look at those things though. 

[bloomwcjkl]

How about a 1 year deal for, oh say, $30 million. $5 million discount for a bum ankle/leg. :-)

I still think we could spend $30 million in more productive ways.

[Brock Beauchamp]

55 minutes ago, bap3141 said:

If I had to speculate, and that is all any of us can do at this point, Correa doesn't want to move much off the length of contract. That's just a guess though.

I think they’ve agreed on years but not dollars. 

[Trov]

I speculated that with the teams of the Giants and Mets, is it may be their insurance company balking at the deal based on the physical.  It is possible, after the medicals came back, they insurance company would not sign off on the deal, basically saying if he gets injured that ends career, team still on the hook.  Contracts like these always have insurance purchased by the team.  However, if the insurance will not sign off, then team would be on hook.  That could be the issue with the Mets.  If a team is willing to take that risk, then so be it. Rumors I was reading was Mets wanted an opt out if the leg leads to career affecting injury. 

[Aaron Weiland]

9 minutes ago, Brock Beauchamp said:

I think they’ve agreed on years but not dollars. 

They being the Twins? 

If so, thats still quite a large stumbling block to get over on the way to stealing him from the Mets unless its something like "Carlos wants $300 and the Twins are at $295" .

[Brock Beauchamp]

Just now, Aaron Weiland said:

They being the Twins? 

If so, thats still quite a large stumbling block to get over on the way to stealing him from the Mets unless its something like "Carlos wants $300 and the Twins are at $295" .

Yep, the Twins. I'm hearing somewhat vague details but my gut is saying the Twins land him. I keep hearing enough information to believe the biggest stumbling blocks have been cleared and they're down to arguing about dollars.

[Aaron Weiland]

6 minutes ago, Brock Beauchamp said:

Yep, the Twins. I'm hearing somewhat vague details but my gut is saying the Twins land him. I keep hearing enough information to believe the biggest stumbling blocks have been cleared and they're down to arguing about dollars.

I guess it would all come down to how big the gap is on the dollars then. 

[Brock Beauchamp]

Just now, Aaron Weiland said:

I guess it would all come down to how big the gap is on the dollars then. 

With Boras, who knows. He doesn't give up without squeezing every last dollar out for his client.

[teekz]

Boras Corp does a great job getting the most money for the players. Hopefully they can come to an agreement soon.

[DocBauer]

Through all of these rumors and vast speculation, the one thing I've always wondered is why Correa almost didn't just jump at the Twins offer one the deal with the Giants fell through. And more of the same with the Mets. $285-295-300M, I mean over 10yrs it's a pittance per season. And unless the information we had is greatly outdated, he has an opt out after 3-4yrs. What better way to bet on himself?

[chpettit19]

1 hour ago, Trov said:

If he really is seeking the most money in his pocket, then going to Mets over Twins is wrong call.  Yes, the total in the contract was 30 mil more, but over 2 additional years, and with the taxes and cost of living, he would actually have more money in his pocket with the Twins. Most players do not look at those things though. 

That's one heck of an assumption. You don't think players have money managers, or agents, smart enough to point out the difference in cost of living or taxes between NY and Minneapolis? You don't think the MLBPA is smart enough to figure out that the taxes are different in different states and provide their members with information on how that all works? I'd be willing to bet a whole lot of money that Carlos Correa is well aware of what amount of money he'd actually see from the 12/315 and 10/285 offers based on taxes, cost of living, agent fees, union fees, etc. I bet he's also well aware of how much more he can make in NY on promotional deals outside of his contract. Most players absolutely do look at those things, and pay a whole team of people to make sure they are making the decision they want to make.

[nicksaviking]

2 hours ago, Brock Beauchamp said:

I can't really say what I've been hearing but I'm personally becoming convinced this is actually going to happen.

Well two of the last three off seasons, in early December the Twins walked into their offices, which were fully ablaze and surrounded by an angry mob. They then exited the offices the following calendar year, somehow unscathed and holding a baby dragon as a shocking new prize.

[Chaz1966]

4 minutes ago, chpettit19 said:

That's one heck of an assumption. You don't think players have money managers, or agents, smart enough to point out the difference in cost of living or taxes between NY and Minneapolis? You don't think the MLBPA is smart enough to figure out that the taxes are different in different states and provide their members with information on how that all works? I'd be willing to bet a whole lot of money that Carlos Correa is well aware of what amount of money he'd actually see from the 12/315 and 10/285 offers based on taxes, cost of living, agent fees, union fees, etc. I bet he's also well aware of how much more he can make in NY on promotional deals outside of his contract. Most players absolutely do look at those things, and pay a whole team of people to make sure they are making the decision they want to make.

I agree Correa definitely knows, and if he doesn't Boras for sure does. I'm in the camp that believes in giving him the same type of contract as before, only increase the pay. How about 5 yrs $175 mil with opt outs after yr 3. That gives him top dollar(35 per), and guarentees the Twins 3 Yrs to bridge us til Lee, Lewis hopefully.

[Parfigliano]

2 hours ago, Brandon said:

I wonder if MLB stepped in and said something to Cohen along the lines if teams lose revenue cause he signs all of the star players the league will suffer as a whole for it and he needs to let other teams sign a star player for that reason.  

If MLB did something like that and the player's found out...collusion

[Unwinder]

I'm not excited about this because I really want the Twins to shell out for Correa, I'm excited about this because I really want something to happen.

[chpettit19]

5 minutes ago, Chaz1966 said:

I agree Correa definitely knows, and if he doesn't Boras for sure does. I'm in the camp that believes in giving him the same type of contract as before, only increase the pay. How about 5 yrs $175 mil with opt outs after yr 3. That gives him top dollar(35 per), and guarentees the Twins 3 Yrs to bridge us til Lee, Lewis hopefully.

I'd also very much like a deal along these lines. I'd be willing to do the 10/285 if he were willing to put in language about the ankle in there that takes the Twins off the hook if it explodes in 4 years, or whatever, but I'd much prefer something along the lines of what you're suggesting.

[nicksaviking]

 The Twins paid Joe Mauer 23m per year over a decade ago. It seemed scary. 28M twelve years later should be easy to stomach considering how inflation has hit the rest of the league.

And I’m not scared of the injury stuff. Has a MLB player retired due to arthritis since Sandy Koufax?