Twins Trade Jorge Lopez to Marlins for Dylan Floro

A small upgrade for this year at very little cost. Good move.

 Good luck, Jorge.

I'm speechless. What can you say?

Incremental improvement with addition by subtraction move.  I like this one a lot.  But it’s a small improvement.  I just like how we are trading a problem for a bigger upside play.  

6 minutes ago, Dman said:

He needed a fresh start but man did we get taken by Baltimore.  Ouch!  Doesn't seem like a huge needle mover to me.  I suppose Lopez will be lights out in Miami that seems to be the way things have going for us these days.

Look at the bright side.  The Mahle trade was even worse.

16 minutes ago, Major League Ready said:

Look at the bright side.  The Mahle trade was even worse.

Yeah, last season’s trade deadline was an absolute disaster. Just a complete joke.  

Good luck Jorge.

14 minutes ago, LewFordLives said:

I wasn't sure whether to laugh or cry at that statement.

Cry.  That Mahle trade cost us a lot: two great prospects now pretty much established starting major leaguers and the trade’s failure made us move Arraez for Lopez.

I look at this trade as moving a pretty much low leverage guy (Lopez) for hopefully a medium leverage guy.

I love this move by the Twins for everything that has nothing to do with winning baseball games. A serious class move.

Go take a look at the career of Adam Dunn. I promise I'm going somewhere with this. 

He has an atrocious season in 2011 that does not make any sense when you look at it now. A career .854 OPS hitter, he finishes under .600, with a SLG that is more than .200 points below his career numbers. 

A story starts going around late that season that sounded an awful lot like what Lopez is going thru. 

If you are not a parent, I wouldn't expect you to completely understand. I could only fake it at that stage in life.

But if you are a parent, you can empathize with how debilitating it would be to have a child with a grave illness. It would be nearly impossible to function in life in any way that was not spending time either (1)with my child or (2)to help get them better.

That Lopez has even been serviceable as a low-leverage RP speaks to the underlying talent the Twins were hoping to be benefitting from when they made that trade.

I hope Lopez gets the opportunity to spend more time with his son and comfort him as they wait for a donor. It's got to be heartbreaking to be so far from the most important people in your life when they need you most.

2 minutes ago, mikelink45 said:

I have a daughter in emergency surgery for two cancers so I know the mental strain, but I really cannot comment on this trade and what it means.  Good luck to Jorge, but I do not see this moving the needle in the BP. 

12 minutes ago, Minny505 said:

I love this move by the Twins for everything that has nothing to do with winning baseball games. A serious class move.

Go take a look at the career of Adam Dunn. I promise I'm going somewhere with this. 

He has an atrocious season in 2011 that does not make any sense when you look at it now. A career .854 OPS hitter, he finishes under .600, with a SLG that is more than .200 points below his career numbers. 

A story starts going around late that season that sounded an awful lot like what Lopez is going thru. 

If you are not a parent, I wouldn't expect you to completely understand. I could only fake it at that stage in life.

But if you are a parent, you can empathize with how debilitating it would be to have a child with a grave illness. It would be nearly impossible to function in life in any way that was not spending time either (1)with my child or (2)to help get them better.

That Lopez has even been serviceable as a low-leverage RP speaks to the underlying talent the Twins were hoping to be benefitting from when they made that trade.

I hope Lopez gets the opportunity to spend more time with his son and comfort him as they wait for a donor. It's got to be heartbreaking to be so far from the most important people in your life when they need you most.

Double 👍🏻👍🏻 this.  

39 minutes ago, Nashvilletwin said:

Cry.  That Mahle trade cost us a lot: two great prospects now pretty much established starting major leaguers and the trade’s failure made us move Arraez for Lopez.

I look at this trade as moving a pretty much low leverage guy (Lopez) for hopefully a medium leverage guy.

It sucks that those 2 prospects are doing good in light of what happened to Mahle but who were the twins supposed to get? Who were they supposed to trade? What prospects would everyone here have traded? SP’s are expensive and if they would have done nothing everyone here would have been saying the opposite. “Why didn’t they get a SP?” Yeah they lost the trade. Lots of teams lose trades. This dead horse isn’t rideable any longer. Can we put the stick down yet?

I think this is a great move.

While it seems like most in this comment section see Floro as a middle or low leverage reliever with upside, that does not do him justice. It would be a shame to write him off just because of his 4.54 ERA.

He's definitely not in the Hader tier, but I would put him in the next tier, which is the "not elite but very darn good" tier.

Just looking at his underlying numbers, they are very similar to Jax. Floro has just been hurt by an enormous BABIP of .397, but his batted ball profile suggests that he has done nothing to deserve it.

Floro: 24.0 K%, 6.4 BB%, 0.45 HR/9, 55.1 GB%

Jax: 24.7 K%, 6.5 BB%, 0.43 HR/9, 57.9 GB%

I wouldn't be surprised if the FO has checked off their "acquire high leverage reliever" box off their to do list after this move.

Being a buyer at the deadline is always a risk. Teams have to overpay to beat the offers of other teams. Pitching is particularly risky. The Twins can avoid these risks this year by going the current roster and not buying.

Was going to say it was an interesting challenge trade to swap two struggling major leaguers. It sounds like the human element for Lopez and his family might have been a bigger impetus though.

Reflects well on both the Twins and Marlins that they were able to work out a deal that can hopefully help Lopez and his family.

Floro's multi-year track record is a lot better than I first expected, much more in line with his peripherals this year. He's never quite been a dominant reliever, but actually a longer and better track record than Fulmer last year. I still think they could use one more reliever of similar or better quality, but actually he looks like a pretty good rental and they didn't have to give up any prospects, just the opportunity to try to reclaim Lopez next year.

If the Twins did this even in part to get Lopez closer to his family then I will give the FO a sincere accolade. 

Well, the FO probably couldn’t have known how things would develop with his family when they acquired him. But, they’re doing the right thing. And hope and prayers to the family.

I DO wish the FO would have known that he’d be bad. Or that Cano would be good. Or that Mahle was damaged goods. Or that Dyson was damaged goods. Or that Spencer Steer was going to be better than Miranda. Or…

3 hours ago, TNtwins85 said:

It sucks that those 2 prospects are doing good in light of what happened to Mahle but who were the twins supposed to get? Who were they supposed to trade? What prospects would everyone here have traded? SP’s are expensive and if they would have done nothing everyone here would have been saying the opposite. “Why didn’t they get a SP?” Yeah they lost the trade. Lots of teams lose trades. This dead horse isn’t rideable any longer. Can we put the stick down yet?

You’re right - it’s water under the bridge.  Props though to the FO’s of the Twins and Marlins for moving Lopez closer to his son. 

In all seriousness, best of luck to J. Lopez and family. But now we can simplify things and not have worry about which Lopez is pitching. Just a P.Lo now and no J.Lo. Keep it simple. A positive for all parties!