Seth Stohs Site Manager Posted July 20, 2017 Posted July 20, 2017 Update Friday 4:44 - It's now been about 24 hours since Ken Rosenthal first tweeted that the Twins were close to acquiring Jaime Garcia. As things sit right now, Garcia is set to start for Atlanta and the trade talks are on hold as other teams are now involved. This has been very interesting, with several twists and turns. It will be nice to see it resolved, whatever that means. As fans, however, it is nice to know that the Twins front office is being aggressive and pursuing players as buyers at this time. -------------------------------------- Ken Rosenthal was first to report that the Minnesota Twins are close to acquiring veteran LHP Jaime Garcia from the Atlanta Braves. Recently Rhett Bollinger tweeted that the Twins will trade a minor leaguer to the Braves to complete the deal. Jon Heyman has confirmed that it is a one-for-one deal. As of midnight Thursday night/Friday morning, the deal was not complete, but most seem to believe that it will still happen. As the deal becomes final and we learn more about the specifics, we will update this article.The 31-year-old Garcia debuted with the St. Louis Cardinals in 2008. He stayed in that organization through the 2016 season when he was traded. Last offseason, he was traded to Atlanta in exchange for three minor leaguers. In 17 starts and 106 innings, Garcia is 3-7 with a 4.33 ERA and a 1.33 WHIP. He has walked 40 and struck out 81. While the front office has said that it wasn't interested in trading for rentals, Garcia is in the final season of a six year, $50 million deal. He is making $12 million this season. He likely has about $4 million remaining on the deal. Per Mike Berardino (or a source of his) it's possible the trade won't be completed until Friday. As Thursday turns into Friday, the deal has still not been finalized, though most still believe that it will happen. Check back for updates. Click here to view the article
SarasotaBill Verified Member Posted July 20, 2017 Posted July 20, 2017 Pass The Twins are not optimized for 2017. I thought Falvey was better than this. David HK, jun and LaBombo 3
TKGuy Provisional Member Posted July 20, 2017 Posted July 20, 2017 Doing exactly what they said, not mortgaging future. Cue the "I can't believe we gave up _______ for Jamie Garcia comments. I remember the Lew Ford for Shannon Stewart and Tyler Ladendorf for Orlando Cabrera freakout Captain Hindsight, Homer Hanky, tarheeltwinsfan and 7 others 10
jud6312 Verified Member Posted July 20, 2017 Posted July 20, 2017 For a rental that's the epitome of league average, the give better not be too significant. h2oface, d-mac and bluechipper 3
bluechipper Provisional Member Posted July 20, 2017 Posted July 20, 2017 This is the type of deal I was hoping would be made to stabilize the rotation. D.C Twins, Kevin, HitInAPinch and 6 others 9
John Miller Provisional Member Posted July 20, 2017 Posted July 20, 2017 Doing exactly what they said, not mortgaging future. Cue the "I can't believe we gave up _______ for Jamie Garcia comments.I remember the Lew Ford for Shannon Stewart and Tyler Ladendorf for Orlando Cabrera freakoutBobby Kielty**** for Stewart. d-mac, USAFChief, howieramone2 and 4 others 7
gman Verified Member Posted July 20, 2017 Posted July 20, 2017 Maybe Santiago's not coming back? We are pretty sure Hughes isn't back this year.
Tibs Verified Member Posted July 20, 2017 Posted July 20, 2017 This could be a very good trade for the Twins. It shouldn't cost much at all and could go a long way in helping the rotation bluechipper and D.C Twins 2
beckmt Verified Member Posted July 21, 2017 Posted July 21, 2017 I am hoping it is not one of our AA starters.
nicksaviking Community Moderator Posted July 21, 2017 Posted July 21, 2017 Twins agree to take on a salary dump is all, I hope. Please don't let the prospect be devisive. Squirrel, dgwills, wabene and 2 others 5
Joe A. Preusser Verified Member Posted July 21, 2017 Posted July 21, 2017 Looks like it's someone called John Playertobenamed? d-mac 1
John Miller Provisional Member Posted July 21, 2017 Posted July 21, 2017 Could it be Kohl Stewart?No way. howieramone2 1
TKGuy Provisional Member Posted July 21, 2017 Posted July 21, 2017 I was wrong, Kielty But I do agree with the bitching of Ramos for Capps tarheeltwinsfan and d-mac 2
FormerMinnasotan Provisional Member Posted July 21, 2017 Posted July 21, 2017 Pass, especially if it means trading Jorge or Gonsalves (the Twins would be stupid to trade Romero). I can be behind trading Kohl Stewart. I also don't think Garcia would fare well here. IaFan1 1
yarnivek1972 Verified Member Posted July 21, 2017 Posted July 21, 2017 Thrylos: Re: Haley: He is not tradeable by the Twins.They have to return him to Boston for that to happen. Correct me if I am wrong but did the Twins not acquire Johan Santana by trading with The Marlins, who selected him from Houston in the rule 5 draft? How would this be different other than it being in season? nicksaviking, OldTimeTwinkie and Oldgoat_MN 3
Kwak Verified Member Posted July 21, 2017 Posted July 21, 2017 Considering the implied desperation of signing Colon this deal (or a similar one) was needed to show actual intent to compete right now, So, good move. bighat, Vanimal46, wabene and 2 others 5
notoriousgod71 Verified Member Posted July 21, 2017 Posted July 21, 2017 Injury prone? Check. Mediocre? Check. Soft tosser? Check. Great move, Terry! David HK, h2oface, wabene and 3 others 6
JustinCB Verified Member Posted July 21, 2017 Posted July 21, 2017 Pass, especially if it means trading Jorge or Gonsalves (the Twins would be stupid to trade Romero). I can be behind trading Kohl Stewart. I also don't think Garcia would fare well here. Don't think you have a whole lot to worry about here.... wabene and HitInAPinch 2
Brock Beauchamp Site Manager Posted July 21, 2017 Posted July 21, 2017 It's not the type of move that excites Twins fans but it's probably the right kind of move to make. Tom Froemming, howieramone2, DJSim22 and 14 others 17
Guest Guests Posted July 21, 2017 Posted July 21, 2017 He'd probably be the #3 or #4 starter for the rest of the year, depending on what you think of Mejia, ahead of Gibson, Colon, etc. If the price is a low prospect, good deal.
Otto von Ballpark Old-Timey Member Posted July 21, 2017 Posted July 21, 2017 Thrylos: Re: Haley: He is not tradeable by the Twins.They have to return him to Boston for that to happen. Correct me if I am wrong but did the Twins not acquire Johan Santana by trading with The Marlins, who selected him from Houston in the rule 5 draft? How would this be different other than it being in season?You are correct, Thrylos is incorrect. Rule 5 players can be traded at any time, but their Rule 5 restrictions follow them. melshmeister, kab21 and gunnarthor 3
Mr. Brooks Verified Member Posted July 21, 2017 Posted July 21, 2017 Thrylos: Re: Haley: He is not tradeable by the Twins.They have to return him to Boston for that to happen. Correct me if I am wrong but did the Twins not acquire Johan Santana by trading with The Marlins, who selected him from Houston in the rule 5 draft? How would this be different other than it being in season?Yes. Not only can Haley be traded, he already has been traded once since he was selected in the Rule 5 draft. Rule 5 picks can be traded, the only stipulation being that the new team is under the same roster restrictions as the drafting team was. Oldgoat_MN 1
Homer Hanky Verified Member Posted July 21, 2017 Posted July 21, 2017 This is a good trade... Now go get Strickland from SanFran... D.C Twins 1
Mr. Brooks Verified Member Posted July 21, 2017 Posted July 21, 2017 Doing exactly what they said, not mortgaging future. Cue the "I can't believe we gave up _______ for Jamie Garcia comments. I remember the Lew Ford for Shannon Stewart and Tyler Ladendorf for Orlando Cabrera freakoutWell they said no rentals, so not EXACTLY what they said. It was Kielty for Stewart, and though there were a few Kielty believers, definitely nobody cared that ladendorf was traded. d-mac 1
TKGuy Provisional Member Posted July 21, 2017 Posted July 21, 2017 One or two relievers would satisfy me now d-mac, Homer Hanky and 70charger 3
Otto von Ballpark Old-Timey Member Posted July 21, 2017 Posted July 21, 2017 Twins agree to take on a salary dump is all, I hope. Please don't let the prospect be devisive.I don't know. Garcia is probably a decent match for Santiago last year -- better peripherals / FIP, similar cost, 1 less year of control. I'd guess they would wait until July 31 if all they were getting offered here was salary relief.
thegambler Verified Member Posted July 21, 2017 Posted July 21, 2017 Stop freaking out Twins fans. This is big value. For those who don't understand, typically when the player being traded has "yet to be named", it usually means you're not giving up a top prospect. I too would love to get a guy like Sonny Gray. However, he is being linked to prospects like Derek Fisher in Houston. Sorry Twins fans, pass on that. I'll take Garcia for nothing, any day of the week. Blackjack, 70charger, Broker and 5 others 8
Otto von Ballpark Old-Timey Member Posted July 21, 2017 Posted July 21, 2017 For reference, to get Garcia last winter, Atlanta gave up their 17, 21, and 29 prospects. All of them appeared to be low-ceiling types, though. https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2016/12/cardinals-trade-jaime-garcia-braves.html Hosken Bombo Disco, PseudoSABR, gunnarthor and 4 others 7
Darius Verified Member Posted July 21, 2017 Posted July 21, 2017 This certainly improves the back-end of the rotation. I hope they didn't give up anything significant. Could be a pretty good move. d-mac and bluechipper 2
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