Twins Acquire Reliever Trevor Richards from Toronto Blue Jays for Minor Leaguer Jay Harry

[USAFChief]

Just now, Craig Arko said:

Corresponding move(s)? 

A little nausea. 

[Jocko87]

The more important question might be the 40 man spot.  Another move likely coming, even if just a DFA.

[twins_89]

1 minute ago, twinstalker said:

9 ER in last 4.2 IP.  Bad last few years.  How and why are the Twins going to use him?  If the Twins already had him, I think we'd be calling for a DFA.  Absolutely the only thing I can think of is that someone somewhere in the org thinks they can fix him in some way.  Giving up zero is fine, but he still costs, and he costs a roster spot.

Go back a little further and he's given up 15 ER in his last 8 IP.

[nicksaviking]

Just now, Craig Arko said:

Corresponding move(s)? 

[nicksaviking]

Just now, USAFChief said:

A little nausea. 

Dang, sniped, but mine was a GIF.

[USAFChief]

Just now, nicksaviking said:

Dang, sniped, but mine was a GIF.

I liked yours more.

 

[Beast]

What an lame trade.  It might make the bullpen worse.  They’ll be reluctant to cut their losses and run him out there as many times as they can.

They just had to do something so they could say they tried.  Patronizing the fans.

Now comes the obligatory annual trope through LaVelle E Pravda “we were in on a whole bunch of really good players but got edged out by a hair.”

The Pohlads could teach a graduate level business course on tanking a brand.  Have them explain their philosophy and tell the kids to do the opposite.

[Jeff K]

Boo.  I can't believe this is the move the Twins made.  Decent rental starters were available at reasonable prices based on the transactions shown.  The Twins could be as good as anyone in the AL with just the slightest effort from ownership.  It seems to me the Pohlads are unwilling to make that push to take the Twins over the top.  Welcome to the Tampa Bay Rays in MN.

[Jocko87]

1 minute ago, Jeff K said:

Decent rental starters were available at reasonable prices based on the transactions shown. 

Who?

[Jeff K]

1 minute ago, Jocko87 said:

Who?

Just go through the transactions.  

[nicksaviking]

3 minutes ago, Jeff K said:

Boo.  I can't believe this is the move the Twins made.  Decent rental starters were available at reasonable prices based on the transactions shown.  The Twins could be as good as anyone in the AL with just the slightest effort from ownership.  It seems to me the Pohlads are unwilling to make that push to take the Twins over the top.  Welcome to the Tampa Bay Rays in MN.

Not sure how many of them were decent and I'm not sure the prices were very reasonable either. This was clearly a seller's market.

The Twins made their beds last winter. They had their reckoning from the fans then, but I'm not going to shed a tear for them if the fans want to pile on again now.

[Hawkeye Bean Counter]

He fills a role,  don't put him in leverage situations against righties,  and he does pretty well.  Wish we could have gotten a slightly higher quality reliever, and maybe they think they can tweak him.  Jay Jackson from Toronto doesn't give me a lot of hope though 😉.   Oh well lets see if they do anything else.  Hey but no one can say they didn't make a trade at the deadline   . . . LOL.   

 

[KirbyDome89]

1 minute ago, Hawkeye Bean Counter said:

He fills a role,  don't put him in leverage situations against righties,  and he does pretty well.  Wish we could have gotten a slightly higher quality reliever, and maybe they think they can tweak him.  Jay Jackson from Toronto doesn't give me a lot of hope though 😉.   Oh well lets see if they do anything else.  Hey but no one can say they didn't make a trade at the deadline   . . . LOL.   

 

That's an impossibility in a modern bullpen. 

[Jocko87]

2 minutes ago, Jeff K said:

Just go through the transactions.  

I've been following closely.  Give me a name.

[Aggies7]

When’s the parade? 🤡 

[Hawkeye Bean Counter]

1 minute ago, KirbyDome89 said:

That's an impossibility in a modern bullpen. 

if you are facing 2 lefties in the next 3 batters it isn't.  

[nicksaviking]

5 minutes ago, Hawkeye Bean Counter said:

He fills a role,  don't put him in leverage situations against righties,  and he does pretty well.  Wish we could have gotten a slightly higher quality reliever, and maybe they think they can tweak him.  Jay Jackson from Toronto doesn't give me a lot of hope though 😉.   Oh well lets see if they do anything else.  Hey but no one can say they didn't make a trade at the deadline   . . . LOL.   

 

Wait a second, so he's taking Matt Wallner's role?!?!?

[clone52]

36 minutes ago, chpettit19 said:

Reverse splits are not appealing when they lead to an overall bad reliever. I don't see how this move raises the ceiling on the 2024 Twins in any way at all. Feels like a move just to make a move. 

You'd be okay with it if he had those splits, but threw lefthanded?

[bean5302]

Ummmmm... why?

[chpettit19]

Just now, clone52 said:

You'd be okay with it if he had those splits, but threw lefthanded?

No. I don't care what your splits are when you're an overall bad reliever.

[Heiny]

Wow, this is fantastic.  A major move to bring in a new star.  Oops,  I thought this was JR Richards.

 

[cmoss84]

Hopefully they included a few barrels of lube...just in case we make playoffs and play Yankees. Or anyone else.

[Jocko87]

Staumont DFA'd

[LA Vikes Fan]

5 minutes ago, Jeff K said:

Boo.  I can't believe this is the move the Twins made.  Decent rental starters were available at reasonable prices based on the transactions shown.  The Twins could be as good as anyone in the AL with just the slightest effort from ownership.  It seems to me the Pohlads are unwilling to make that push to take the Twins over the top.  Welcome to the Tampa Bay Rays in MN.

Available yes, but not at "reasonable prices". So far KIkuchi cost the Astros their #2 prospect who may go right into the Blue Jays rotation, and their #9 prospect. That's like us trading Walter Jenkins or Emma AND Charlee Soto or CJ Culpepper. Two guys who haven't even pitched this year due to injury - Paul Blackburn and Alex Cobb - went for  top 30 guys in the Mets and Guardians systems. Trevor Rogers fetched a top 100 prospect in AAA and another AAA guy who is in the Orioles top 25. I'd like to get a quality starter too, but the prices have been high.  

[LA Vikes Fan]

1 minute ago, Jocko87 said:

Staumont DFA'd

No surprise there. The wheels had come off. 

[CoachDW]

Typical Twins fat, juicy Nothingburger. Have they trademarked that yet?

[cheeseheadgophfan]

Meanwhile, Cleveland goes out and gets Alex Cobb for a prospect ranked #28 in their organization.....(akin to like Dylan Questad in the Twins).....

SMH at this squads ownership......

[mrcharlie]

If I were an on field member of this organization I would be livid.  If the FO can do no better to support our play with adding a meaningful piece.  Very tough to stomach when it's clear what our needs are... quality left handed pitching.

[twinstalker]

The good news is that Jay Harry is nothing (except to his family) in the scheme of things, and the Twins probably correctly think only a few fans of millions even know his name.  They DFA or 60-day someone now when adding Richards, then bring someone up when DFAing him.  The bigger deal is that it will probably end up costing the Twins a few games in the meantime.

Meanwhile, 22 minutes to deadline, about 45 minutes to find out about the late trades.

[bean5302]

From MLBTR
 

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5. Will the Twins do, um… anything?

As noted, Oakland is one of two teams in the league to do exactly nothing thus far. The other is Minnesota. The Twins have spent much of the season in comfortable playoff position and are said to be working with payroll limitations (just as they were in the offseason), but their complete silence on the trade front is nevertheless surprising. Minnesota has been eyeing rental arms for the back of the rotation and could look for another outfield bat or reliever, but thus far the reigning AL Central champs have simply stood pat. They’re 5.5 games back of the division lead — a closeable gap in theory, but so far they’ve watched the Central-leading Guardians add Lane Thomas in a trade with the Nationals and the third-place Royals make multiple veteran acquisitions without doing anything to improve their own club.

 

If the Pohlads want to be more like the Rays and Orioles, maybe they should consider both of those teams have made significant moves and the Orioles have been tied to big names at this deadline. This trade was a nothingburger. I don't have anything against Richards, but I really don't see how he makes our bullpen better. Just call up Varland and put him where he belongs. In the bullpen.