Twins place Gibson on 10-day IL

[Squirrel]

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2019/09/twins-place-kyle-gibson-on-injured-list.html

 

With ulcerative colitis.

[Otto von Ballpark]

Interesting. Gibson was expected to leave the team Thursday anyway for a few days of paternity leave.

[Otto von Ballpark]

With no roster limits, there's no real benefit to placing guys on the 10-day IL in September, is there? (I guess if he stays on the IL, he could be eligible for postseason eligibility replacement but obviously that's not a factor here.)

[jorgenswest]

With no roster limits, there's no real benefit to placing guys on the 10-day IL in September, is there? (I guess if he stays on the IL, he could be eligible for postseason eligibility replacement but obviously that's not a factor here.)

Maybe. They needed to recall Poppen to clear a spot on the 40. Did they do these moves the 31st so that they had a 40 spot prior to September 1 for Miller and Graterol?

 

It would avoid the petition to the commissioner’s office which may not be a rubber stamp.

[Squirrel]

Maybe. They needed to recall Poppen to clear a spot on the 40. Did they do these moves the 31st so that they had a 40 spot prior to September 1 for Miller and Graterol?

It would avoid the petition to the commissioner’s office which may not be a rubber stamp.

I read that this was done today.

[USAFChief]

Ulcerative colitis.

 

Wow.

[Squirrel]

With no roster limits, there's no real benefit to placing guys on the 10-day IL in September, is there? (I guess if he stays on the IL, he could be eligible for postseason eligibility replacement but obviously that's not a factor here.)

Unless he actually is away from the team? Dunno. But this diagnosis would explain others noticing how ‘gaunt’ he looks.

[jorgenswest]

The Twins were able to recall Thorpe today with the IL of Gibson,

[Otto von Ballpark]

The Twins were able to recall Thorpe today with the IL of Gibson,

Ah, that explains it. Thanks.

[ewen21]

 

Unless he actually is away from the team? Dunno. But this diagnosis would explain others noticing how ‘gaunt’ he looks.

I certainly have noticed that and the other day he just didn't look right

[operation mindcrime]

Ulcerative colitis.

 

Wow.

I've had moderate to severe ulcerative colitis watching him pitch for 7 seasons!

[operation mindcrime]

Interesting. Gibson was expected to leave the team Thursday anyway for a few days of paternity leave.

Hopefully he'll be leaving the team for good this winter!

[beckmt]

He can stay on the IL for the rest of the year for all I care.  And I hope he does.

[Hosken Bombo Disco]

No, this has been a real concern for him. It has caused insomnia, lack of energy, not to mention the discomfort of the condition itself, and he decided to stop trying to pitch through it and instead will take a rest.

 

There are some good posts about this in the other thread, starting here:

http://twinsdaily.com/topic/34709-front-page-brusdar-graterol-among-8-callups-kyle-gibson-to-the-il/?p=908627

[Hosken Bombo Disco]

He can stay on the IL for the rest of the year for all I care.  And I hope he does.

Sounds like he is going to rest, take a new medication, and hope to return to the rotation sometime before the end of the year. Twins radio just played an interview with him.

 

If we can get the same Gibson back who one-hit the full Yankees lineup in 2018, I think we gotta hope he comes back healthy.

[Mike Sixel]

Incredibly mean spirited posts about a sick person. Wow.

[Danchat]

Incredibly mean spirited posts about a sick person. Wow.

I feel bad about the negative things I’ve said about Gibby in the game threads, I would have laid off if I knew about this. Having ecoli to start the year and now UC could definitely throw a guy off. Here’s hoping Gibby can recover as well as possible.

[Brock Beauchamp]

 

Incredibly mean spirited posts about a sick person. Wow.

Yeah, no kidding. A lot of tasteless posts in this thread.

 

I understand being frustrated with Gibson but after the way he pitched in 2017-2018, maybe starting the season with an E.Coli recovery, followed by this might explain some of his (relative) struggles.

 

And despite those struggles, he's pitching somewhere around league average overall.

 

Besides, basically saying "I'm GLAD Player X is sick" is pretty awful all around.

[Vanimal46]

I hope he has a speedy recovery. I am curious to know if this was known by the training staff/upper management throughout the season? If so, it becomes more of a head scratcher why they didn't seek alternatives at the trade deadline.

 

If this was just discovered, then I'll give them the benefit of the doubt.

[Mike Sixel]

I hope he has a speedy recovery. I am curious to know if this was known by the training staff/upper management throughout the season? If so, it becomes more of a head scratcher why they didn't seek alternatives at the trade deadline.

 

If this was just discovered, then I'll give them the benefit of the doubt.

Agreed.

[Brock Beauchamp]

 

I hope he has a speedy recovery. I am curious to know if this was known by the training staff/upper management throughout the season? If so, it becomes more of a head scratcher why they didn't seek alternatives at the trade deadline.

If this was just discovered, then I'll give them the benefit of the doubt.

I think they did seek alternatives at the deadline, it's just that most of the good starters stayed put (the only notable exceptions were Stroman and Grienke, and Zack was likely outside the budget of the Twins).

 

If no team lands a guy like Mike Minor, the likely reason is that the asking price is too high. And that's a bummer because I would have liked to see the Twins pay pretty handsomely for a starter of his caliber (same goes for Stroman; I can't help but scratch my head over everything about that deal).

[Vanimal46]

I think they did seek alternatives at the deadline, it's just that most of the good starters stayed put (the only notable exceptions were Stroman and Greinke, and Zack was likely outside the budget of the Twins).

Shouldn't they have looked beyond those 2 players? If this illness was known earlier in the season, there was a high risk he needed to be shut down without a backup in a competitive season...

 

This seems like a perfect example to pay up for Mike Minor, or at the very least, go after an Edwin Jackson type just so they have an alternative in a playoff scenario.

[beckmt]

I can sympathize with Gibson, but given the new society and administration, anyone who has this issue (it is incurable, and for some very hard to control).  For those who have the hard to control issue, there are little protections in today's society for these people.  Gibson at least has made a decent amount of money and has access to the best medical care.  Most people don't.

[Brock Beauchamp]

 

Shouldn't they have looked beyond those 2 players? If this illness was known earlier in the season, there was a high risk he needed to be shut down without a backup in a competitive season...

This seems like a perfect example to pay up for Mike Minor, or at the very least, go after an Edwin Jackson type just so they have an alternative in a playoff scenario.

I won't fault a team for not acquiring a player who wasn't traded at all because that literally means no other team was willing to pay the asking price, either.

 

Which means the asking price was too high. It's not as if the Twins were the only team that needed starting pitching, yet Minor, Boyd, et al stayed put.

[Jham]

I won't fault a team for not acquiring a player who wasn't traded at all because that literally means no other team was willing to pay the asking price, either.

 

Which means the asking price was too high. It's not as if the Twins were the only team that needed starting pitching, yet Minor, Boyd, et al stayed put.

Oversimplification in my opinion. Not every team is in position to buy. Not every team has the same issues with rotation. Not every team has the prospect capital the Twins have. In terms of what we saw go down, it does not appear that asking prices were too high. It appears that demand was low. Theoretically this should lower asking prices. Except the Twins were rightfully trying to acquire pitchers with controllable years. We were fixated on the current market while sellers were comparing to a future market.

[Doomtints]

Ouch.

 

My wife, her sister, and her mom all have this. Her mom had her colon removed in the 90s, the others struggled with it until they went to a gluten-free diet.

 

Now, if they accidentally have gluten (typically from a restaurant), it comes back with a vengeance but at least it passes after a day or so.

 

There are drugs that can help this, like Humira, though Humira is very expensive. Humira essentally keeps the lights on at Abbvie, a company that employs over 20,000 people!

[Nine of twelve]

I don't think any of us knows the details of how the team and Gibson have been communicating about and dealing with this medical issue. But this may (and I emphasize MAY) be an example of a player trying to tough it out and play through a problem without telling the team.

This false macho attitude has got to go, and I'm not talking about Gibson here. Keeping an athlete as healthy as possible is of highest importance to the athlete and to his or her team. If I were running a team I would require players to report any and all discomfort. In this day and age medical and training personnel are very well-versed in their crafts and are much better at knowing what to do and when than the player. Let them decide what to play through and what not to.

[Squirrel]

I hope he has a speedy recovery. I am curious to know if this was known by the training staff/upper management throughout the season? If so, it becomes more of a head scratcher why they didn't seek alternatives at the trade deadline.

If this was just discovered, then I'll give them the benefit of the doubt.

This is very likely related to the E. Coli, but it could have taken time to manifest, That said, training staff can’t diagnose this. This is an issue for a GE doctor and a series of tests. It probably reached a point where he finally went to a doctor. You aren’t diagnosed with this and then live with it for the season. I’m giving him the benefit of a doubt.

[prouster]

Incredibly mean spirited posts about a sick person. Wow.

Agreed. A lot of sports fans are idiots, which comes out in situations like this.

 

I hope Gibson gets better, as ulcerative colitis raises risk factors for other very serious conditions.

 

I also hope the barbarians cheering this development learn to imagine that life exists beyond their own immediate sense perceptions.

[stringer bell]

This is very interesting situation. The player wants to perform, especially since he is a free agent after this year. I would speculate that he has either minimized or withheld his discomfort to the staff and as Brock noted his performance has been league-average despite his illness. 

 

During today's game broadcast, Bremer said that Gibson is hoping to miss only one start. I suppose he has been hoping the symptoms would diminish, perhaps after his child arrived. But if he's feeling worse and worse, maybe he'll need more than one missed start.

 

A lot of guys are playing with nagging injuries. When do you say "enough" and when do you just keep playing through it?