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While we sit here and project them forward through rose-colored glasses. I am "bearish" on Twins starting pitching coming though our pipeline until I am proven otherwise.

That's like adding a few pairs of socks, bro

I would say we are pretty freakin far from what you are saying. We would need to look at these very players at the end of next season to see how they have developed. We need to actually see over 100 games played in the majors next year for both Culpepper and Houston to talk like this. Culpepper looked decent in the 33 games he played, but who really knows? Who knows with Houston. I would like to see what he can do but this remains to be seen. I am sorry, but I am not in a place where I can be told "just you watch this bunch" yet. I need to see very strong signs and in a sustained effort from a whole bunch of players. I am enthusiastic about Brooks Lee and development he's shown. He is of the mold the Brewers have. They have different kinds of players than we do. It is an unfair comparison. The Brewers just swept the LA Dodgers and are going to WS. I am sorry, but we are not at all close. If we are and I just don't see it well then this year should be pretty exciting and I am set to have my mind changed.

1000% now!

A smart organization might have already identified his role by now

Will this EVER get fixed? Honestly. Was some statute put in place where the Minnesota Twins never could draft and raise an all star caliber starting pitcher? I guess Jose Berrios shot across the sky for a little while, but that is the best we have done in the 20 years following Matt Garza and we weren't doing to well drafting pitching before then

I've been saying for years that Montreal is a much MUCH better market

If we are to consider their performances to be disappointing that is the question I would like answered. You laid it out simply and accurately. From their histories, what should we have expected? This the Mike Lamb-Syndrome

The White Sox, Tampa and Cleveland all had payrolls lower than ours and are still playing. Milwaukee was ranked only a couple of teams above us in payroll, won 103 games and are 2-0 on San Diego. YES, we COULD spend more money. What about identifying, raising and overseeing some pitchers who actually have an impact? What about making a bold trade rather than assuming what we have will project out to what we hope? This is a badly run organization and has been for quite some time now. Signing checks will not save it

I would wager the vast majority of the people asking for Bednar fall in two categories and most of them both categories: 1) People who think this team is better than it actually is right now. 2) People who want to see the Twins spend money because they want to see the Twins spend money

It's actually been explained by others beside me, but allow me to summarize: 1) A closer will give you how games and how many innings in a season? He was in 62 games and pitched 69 innings. 2) We are not close right now. There are too many positions on the diamond (not even getting into the shaky situation we face in starting pitching) that need to be addressed. 3) No other position in baseball goes up and down more severely than relievers and closers. If we were close Bednar makes sense. This team is at least two years off the way it currently constructed. He'd be pitching in games that are meaningless next year and possibly 2028. Are these reasons unreasonable to you?

Sweet it is was indeed to see the Yankees go down to the Rays, but it also reveals an inconvenient truth: It is not all about payroll. That was the BS excuse all those years we couldn't even win a single game against the Yankees. What was it, 12 losses in a row in the playoffs to them?

Not only that, relief pitching is about the most unpredictable commodity in baseball unless we are talking about some of the very best of all time. Most guys (even ones who made the ASG in the past) are up and down year by year. And like you say, I view this closer to part of a troubling delusion that "we are close". We are not close and as you say these quick fix. If we had actual major league talent that we can move for a strong starting pitching prospect I would be on board with that. We are not a very good team right now.

I try to amuse. Glad I can put a smile on your face.

YOu say the Twins have "proven exciting young homegrown talent emerging" right now. Remember, we are comparing this to what we already know happened in 1986. Do you see a set lineup where 7 of the 9 players play in 143 games or more? Do we have a young starting pitcher like Viola right now who won 18 games the two years prior? Do we have a veteran as good as Blyleven to throw out there? What are you talking about, man? And, we are not "worrying about 2029" it is more like we are not worried about 2027 or 2028 because it is about time to start moving guys. We have seen enough. YOu have a different, more optimistic view. That is fine with me.