MapleGroveTwinsFan

Culpepper .340/.382/.480 remember when people said you have to dominant in the minors before being called up?

Likely a team under .500

Jenkins isn't up because of poor roster construction, injuries (him and Erod)and Erod having no options. If they Twins call Jenkins up before Erod is just another bad decision in line with other bad decisions. As much as I would love Jenkins to be up, Erod needs to be the next guy up, for reasons others have said (40 man, next year possible lock out, and Erod would need to play less than Jenkins). This FO can't seem to get out of its own way. I have said it before but as of right now the Twins go into 27 with the same issues they have right now, I believe Jeffers is the only free agent and his active roster spot must be taken with Erod. two catchers, Lewis, Clemens, Lee, Culpepper, Erod, Buxton, Keashall, Larnach, Martin, Kriedler, and Bell. With Wallner, GG, Fedko, Mendez and Roden still on the 40 man. So I can't see how they possibly put Jenkins on the 40 man until Buxton injury happens. 27 looks a lot like the last few years of .500 baseball.

Not sure I get the logic of going to arb with him likely getting 7 million or so or paying him to avoid arb , then turning around and trading him. Why not just spend that money on the type of player they want or need? So far the picking up of the 10 million option on Polanco hasn't worked too well, but lets give it another go? Neither did paying Farmer 6.3 (plus the 250k buyout in 2025) to avoid arbitration. If the Twins don't have a minor league player/prospect that can give them under 5 WAR over the next 6 years the FO should be fired.

Actually he is saying hello, because his OPS hasn't dropped .200 points not because he is 21 or because the Tigers don't have better options. The idea that a player 23 or younger has to out perform guys in their late 20's in AAA is crazy talk. If those guys in their late 20's weren't doing that they were would selling insurance or playing overseas not playing in the minors. A 21 got to AAA because they have the skills to be a superstar someday. By that logic the Stevensons, Keirsay and Wallner's of the world would be getting all the chances and the young guys would just wouldn't and the league wouldn't have the JROD, Merrill, Tatis, Chourio, Acuna's and others.

Maybe unproven was a bit harsh, He will be 29 next year, and has a career .676 OPS, better this year and his OPS+ is still 100. The Twins don't need another average major league player, the roster is filled with them. If the Twins are going to bring in somebody from outside the Organization to play a defensive position it better be someone that is much better than average.

yes lets add another 29 year unproven player over a 23 year old prospect.

Didn't say Jenkins, I said 17 games for outfielders or outfield prospects. It could have been Larnach, Wallner, Martin, Roden, GG, Keashall and healthy outfielder on the 40 man. Now if it was me it wouldn't have been Larnach, Waller, Martin of Roden. I am for getting the young guys up and seeing what you have and not brining them up late and then having them be average or worse for multi years until finally at 29 and when they actually cost real salary end up being a platoon player. For example Larnach has spent time in the the majors for the last 6 years and has a total of 4.4 WAR, not terrible but not great either, The hope is that one of Twins prospects can put close to that up yearly. The Twins could have straight up cut Wallner, Larnach, and Martin after the 23 season and they would be no worse off today (again not what I would have done). I have wanted Jenkins up for some time now, but I think that ship has or should have sailed for this year, they choose Culpepper (which I am fine with) but they need to get ERod up in the next 6 or 8 games and figure out what they have with him. Imagine they trade him this offseason without every seeing him play and he ends up being a player between Ortiz and Steer, the fans are going to be pissed.

But they have started him 52 times (34 at SS, 15 at 3B, 3 at 2B), Which means it pushed Krieder out to the outfield 17 times. So by extension it cost at minimum 17 games for outfielders or outfield prospects, no?

Max Clark says hello.

He shouldn't even be offered arb, like they should have done with Farmer, unless they think they can pull off a trade like the did with Seattle, I mean if you can get a old flash in the pan RP, an injured SP and a young prospect like they did with Polanco.

The Twins are 3 games under .500, currently have 6 guys with a WAR over 1.1 and one of them is an outfielder who is on the DL, and there isn't a spot for one of the top outfield prospects who runs out of options this year? Roster construction has been a huge weak spot for years and continues this year. I get that if they call up Jenkins he has to play in 36 or more of the final 41, but Erod really only needs to play in 20-25 to get his feet wet and see what he has before handing him a spot next year, or trading him away because they are worried about losing their backup catcher next year or getting Roden at bats? I have seen enough of Martin and Roden to say there only role on the Twins going forward should be the 12th or 13th player on the active roster at best.

Why not wait until 28, he will only be 22 next year and if it isn't a full year, why waste that time?

Did miss the starters that missed the whole year prior to this year? The guys they were counting on prior to this year pretty much pitched the whole year, I didn't mention this year, because they have not been as lucky, but counting on Festa was never really an option.

Hasn't that been the case every year since 2023 (in 2022 they signed Bundy and Archer) with starting pitching and really no holes in the lineup? 2023 - Lopez, Gray, Ryan, Ober, Maeda (with former minor league starter of the year in Varland as back up) 2024 - Lopez, Ryan, Ober, SWR, Paaddack (with Festa, Varland, Matthews as back up) 2025 - Lopez, Ryan, Ober, SWR, Paddack (with Festa, Mattews a back up) 2026 - Ryan, Ober, SWR, Bradley, Matthews (with Morris, Rojas, Prielipp, Able as back up) (2027 does look better than this) Could do the same thing with the lineup, no real holes just need a 1B and a vet or two to compete. (Hasn't worked out to well) The lineup has been filled with hopes and dreams of Buxton staying healthy, Wallner, Kepler, Castro and Lewis returning to their peak, Larnach, Lee, Keaschll, Miranda, Julien, Martin, Gasper, Keirsey develop. As it currently sits, the beginning of next year feels much like the beginning of this year. Hoping Buxton stays healthy, the catchers are league average (unless somehow Jeffers is back), Hopefully Lee gets better or at least doesn't regress, Lewis finds consistency with a set position ( or at least health), Culpepper keeps growing, ERod is good and healthy, and somebody between Keaschall, Martin, Larnach, Martin, Jenkins step up for the third OF spot, and Clemens doesn't regress. (I understand and hope things are different this offseason and they actually start building a better roster) Others have said resign Bell that leaves next year's roster at 2, catchers, Bell, Clemens (1B), Lewis (2B), Culpepper (SS), Lee (3B), Buxton(CF), Keashall (LF), ERod (RF), Bench of Martin, Kreidler, Larnach. (With Wallner, Roden, Mendez, Gonzalez as other 40 man)