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  1. MapleGroveTwinsFan
    Kendle the 24 year old old that played in A and A+ last year?
  2. MapleGroveTwinsFan
    Why do you want to keep him so bad? If the option would be those two or guys or he walks away for nothing, I would take a chance on those two guys. But like I said I paying for his replacement.
  3. MapleGroveTwinsFan
    Haven't heard anybody say to trade him just to trade him, I am pretty most are saying to trade him for prospect or two that may in a couple years and be under team control for multiple years, some are saying that opens up a spot in the rotation for younger guy, FA, and/or maybe somebody they can trade for. I don't see how keeping him next year with the current roster helps meet your objective of a world series team unless of course they can extend him, then that changes things (I wouldn't do that, but it would change some of the additional things I would like to see done) I most certainly want them to spend any money they would save by trading him and more, the added bonus would be the prospects they get. One example and there are probably others would like more (and probably are correct), but lets they offer him 3/50 and he turns it down, Offer that to Bieber, and trade Ryan, even it is for something like SWR and Martin, worse case the results are the same if he stays and the two guys flame out. But the upside is unlimited, guys that maybe help or guys that could be added in a another trade to upgrade the team when another hole opens up.
  4. MapleGroveTwinsFan
    You do understand that for a 26 year old in AAA, that isn't all that impressive? It wasn't even impressive on the Saints team. A few guys with a higher SLG for the Saints, Culpepper, Kreidler, Erod, Jackson, Morissette, Wallner, Sabato, Jenkins, Fedko, Rosario, Lewis's was over twice that. The only way he should or might see 120 games is because of injuries, and if that is the case, younger prospects should be given those at bats, because the Twins will be going no where again. IMO having Roden for depth is a smart move with 2 options remaining, there is no reason to move on from him, maybe he is awesome (way better than last year) somebody gets hurt and he plays well in a replacement role and forces playing time, again IMO that should be the plan. Rebuilding and teams on the edge don't have plans for a 27 year old rookie to play in 75% of the games, unless there is a hole and no prospect is ready. He is a place holder type player and that is how he should have been used this year, he should have been given more at bats this year.
  5. MapleGroveTwinsFan
    That works for when Buxton is hurt, but if he isn't hurt, this doesn't work correct? So Marin or Roden starts the season in the minors?
  6. MapleGroveTwinsFan
    Got to be honest I really have no idea what you are saying, but if you want to sit close to a game, high school baseball is free, so are the gophers, unless you want a seat back chair (season tickets for those are 130), maybe a town ball game? The reason professional sports tickets are so expensive is because people are willing to pay the price, simple as that, Vikings tickets are outrageous but they are sold out every game. Have you been to a movie lately or a play, or a concert? if they just would take less money, the seats would be cheaper. I mean if they would pay the baresta, latte's would be cheaper.
  7. MapleGroveTwinsFan
    That is the thing about sports or entertainment for that matter, you can spend as little or as much as you want to. You catch watch all the games for free if you are willing, you can pay big bucks to go, or someplace in the middle. You have that choice.
  8. MapleGroveTwinsFan
    Isn't that a slugging percentage of .272, in addition to 0 stolen bases attempts? That is a guy that screams something more than depth or utility player? Which one is more likely to continue the OBP or SLG? If I am wrong I will happily come back eat crow and say I was wrong, just like I would have for Keirsey, Fedko, Martin, McCusker, and all the others players similar to that.
  9. MapleGroveTwinsFan
    Are you saying that both things can't be done? I don't think anybody has said trade him to save 12 million. And you are probably correct they won't get anybody that will help them next year, that wouldn't be reason the trade him, you trade him because you have an asset that will likely be gone next year and will have got nothing for it.. Using your words - That is Stupid
  10. MapleGroveTwinsFan
    You think Boston is trading soon to be 24 year old that was their starter in game 1 of the playoffs, Pitched 148 innings this year with an ERA of 3.03 and have locked up for the next 5 years for 30 year old soon to be free agent? If they would you jump at the chance, but I would give it between 0 -1 percent chance of happening.
  11. MapleGroveTwinsFan
    I think it we have seen older/young guys do well at the end of the year, and shouldn't bank on them repeating it. (not that it can't be done) He ended the season (August and September) 15/40 with 7 walks and only 5 K's (excellent). Against playoff teams (ATL, SD, MIL) 3/12 no walks and 3 k's and 1 Double. If you add July against playoff teams he was 8/33, 1 Double, 10 walks, 7 K's. IMO he is depth for injury and nothing more, because he seems over matched by major league pitching. But yes he should be bringing a first base glove to spring training, in reality the Twins should be handing them out like candy in spring training.
  12. MapleGroveTwinsFan
    Sometimes I wonder how much research you put into things? "But the organization also has plenty of evidence for why patience can be valuable. As explored earlier this year, the Twins had opportunities to make long-term commitments to players such as Royce Lewis, Jose Miranda and Matt Wallner when their perceived values were significantly higher" They already had Lewis locked up though his age 29 season and was coming off majors injuries, extending somebody in that situation is not what teams in the majors do. Wallner they have/had locked until 31 already, I believe the same with Miranda. The same reason for Ryan and Ober, the reason for extending them to to keep them during their prime, not on the other side of 30. That group of players are nothing like Keaschall, Jenkins, Erod, and Culpepper, I think Keaschall, Jenkins and Culpepper are obvious guys they should be talking to about this, Erod, probably still a year away. Bradley is the good question, I believe he is locked up though age 28, so probably a guy they should as well, but might another year like they did with Lopez (somebody you failed to mention in the article) Prielipp is in the same boat as Ober and Ryan were already locked up though his prime years, but if the Twins think he is on the Jacob deGrom path you have to consider it, but you have believe his career is on the deGrom/Skubal path to do that. Teams extend guys that made their major league debut at 19.20.21 and 22, maybe a rare occasion 23, but not later than because if the debut after that they already have them though their prime years. Which explains, the Polanco, Sano, Kepler, Buxton, and Lopez and not the Lewis, Julien, Wallner, Larnach, Ryan and Ober's of the world. Seems like a detail that should be in the article, not talking about Wallner.
  13. MapleGroveTwinsFan
    I would assume there are a team or three out there that Joe Ryan would fit nicely in their rotation, have a better chance at extending him then the Twins and give up something pretty decent. Then the Twins could use that money and some of the money they have talked about spending, and sign a pitcher to a 2 or 3 year contract. That way they get some prospects, another starter locked up for the next couple of years when the young guys hopefully have gotten better. Then they continue to spend money on holes. It seems very like a horrible plan to go into next year with your two "best" starters FA at the end of the year and think you can trade them at the deadline, what if they are actually competing for a playoff spot, I mean really competing,, what if they get hurt again, or just aren't that good, they will have pissed away two of the best trade assets they have had in years. Maybe Lopez would take a two year extension jut to keep him here, Ryan won't nor should he. You can do two things at once, trade Ryan and sign somebody to replace him. I think the term for that is asset management,? weird concept walking and chewing gum at the same time, crazy. Maybea Bieber, Rogers, Bubic or Buehler type would sign a two or three contract,
  14. MapleGroveTwinsFan
    So the Twins are going to sign him to a contract of 2 to 3 years between 30 - 50 million at the minimum and people think this is a good way for the Twins to spend money? At 15 million a year he becomes the 5th highest paid closer in the game (the 4 above play for the Houston, Dodgers, Mets and Braves, I ask again is this a good way for the Twins to spend money? Seems like the type of player you sign when you haven't missed the playoffs the last three years, and Jenkins, Culpepper and others have proven something, not still trying to prove themselves. Also seems like a player people will be pissed he is making so much for a .500 club and demanding him to be traded for prospects.
  15. MapleGroveTwinsFan
    So basically run the same team out there for the 4th year, third time wasn't a charm but the 4th time might be? Smart mid to small market teams don't extend pitchers on the wrong side of 30 they trade them, unless of course it is a year or two at the most, and Kremer is the only one that might take that. I would agree there isn't many places to spend money on the offensive side of the equation, but there is a path on the pitching side after they do the right thing and trade Ryan. They missed a huge opportunity to help reload the minors by not trading Jeffers, Ryan, Lopez and one of Wallner or Larnach before last year.
  16. MapleGroveTwinsFan
    Crazy talk, Morrisette is a year older than Lee and has never played in the majors, Ross is 6 months younger has 21 plate appearances in the majors and they might push Lee off a position? You don't think if Lee was in the minors he would be putting up better numbers than either of them two. He hit more homers in the majors than either of those two did in the minors. Both of those two guys future are utility/bench guys. 🫣
  17. MapleGroveTwinsFan
    The is so much bipolar on this site it is crazy. Lee had a solid year, maybe better. Has improved offensively by around 20% each year he has been in the majors (will turn 26 before the season). Played in 156 games, a number hardly any Twins have been able to do for a while. Drove in 13 less runs than Bell batting second, or lower than 5th all year. He is exactly what we should be hoping for the twins prospects. Continue to get better entering his prime years, sure it would have been nice for him to hit the ground running be a plus player but that is hard to do and somewhat rare. He is entering his prime and has established himself as a full time player, compare that to the Miranda, Julien, Larnach, Martin, Wallner, Keirsay, Fedko, Roden's of the world who at his age were still in the minors or struggling entering their primes. If one or two of those guys had the same trajectory as Lee this team wouldn't be in the position they are in. Now the Hope is Culpepper, Jenkins, Houston, Erod, Lackey have similar paths and the Twins actually are building a future. As for metrics, after it has happened (game, week, month, season) they are pretty useless, the numbers are the numbers, how they got to them is irrelevant. Arguing one player is better than another player based on metrics because somebody was lucky or unlucky or won't be able to repeat something is a fools errand and ridiculous. But they absolutely should be looked at and used for predictability, trends and how the team should move forward. I also think that a 26 year old entering his 4th major league season where he has consistently gotten should be looked at a little different than an older established player, or a young (mid to late 20's) guy with little to no experience in the majors.
  18. MapleGroveTwinsFan
    Oh, I can agree that 26 year old Roden put up better numbers than 21 year old Jenkins and 23 year old Erod. Roden and Erod should have been given more of a chance this year, but the Twins thought running 27 year old Martin, and 28 and 29 year old Wallner and Larnach who can't hit lefties were a better idea. The Twins screwed up not seeing what the had with Erod at the beginning of the year and now he is out of options and must be on the roster, traded or let go. Roden has 2 options left, so pretty much he is going to take a back seat to Jenkins and Roden, unless of course he becomes a first basemen, which in that case he is still likely to go back to the minors. I think the Twins have proven playing older players at the expense of young guys getting experience is the quick way to spend multiple years struggling to play even .500 baseball. Jenkins has a career OPS of .895 in the minors (between the age of 18 and 21), Roden has an OPS of .870 in the minors (between the age of 22 and 26), no team in the majors would have Roden be anything more than a depth for Jenkins.
  19. MapleGroveTwinsFan
    How can this be true? What Jenkins was able to do in 93 plate appearances at age 21 (.293/.393/.686), compared to what Roden did in his first 153 plate appearances at age 25 (.261/.294/.556)? I am not saying Roden doesn't have a chance for a good career, but nobody compares these two players and says Roden is going to be the better player.
  20. MapleGroveTwinsFan
    Keaschall played in 152 games, Larnach 122, both had a OPS+ of 120, both bad defensively, Keaschall 20 SB, Larnach 2. Keaschall Spilts - OPS vs RHP .800, vs LHP .742 Larnach splits - OPS vs RHP .819, vs LHP .572 I think the games played, stolen bases, and the splits above are more than enough to justify a higher grade, don't you think? Larnach will be a great platoon player for some team (the Twins don't really have that position available right now) and Keaschall is an everyday player (albeit without a real position as of now, but teams always find a way for a guy like him on the field) Edit, that was without even mentioning their age and cost.
  21. MapleGroveTwinsFan
    I would say the grades are fairly close but high for everybody. Jeffers (who wasn't great defensively) played in one less game than Buxton with basically the same OPS+ and gets an A- and Buxton a B? I think everybody should be dropped down 1 grade at least and it would be better grades. If Jeffers is an A-, what kind of grade would you give to catchers with better WAR, similar OPS+ and played in 40 to 50 more games(Gabriel Moreno,Drake Baldwin,Liam Hicks)? To be honest there really are only 4 guys that deserve a C+ or higher (keashall, Clemens Buxton, and Jeffers), everybody that was more than decent with the bat wasn't any good on defensive (Bell, Larnach), Lee was slightly better than average hitter, and decent at 3B and the rest of the hitter had moments but were below or well below average hitters. There were a few that didn't have enough at bats to be given a fair grade at the major league level, except Outman and Wallner both deserve F's.
  22. MapleGroveTwinsFan
    The Root cause of this season, is the same as the last few, Hoping the core guys stay healthy, hoping your younger/older (Larnach/Wallner/Lewis/Martin/Jeffers/Roden/Kriedler/Gray) guys become more than league average, and terrible defense. The injured guys got injured, younger/older guys you could say got better, but not by much, defensive was terrible until the moved guys around and it become adequate? They need to get rid of any of the guys that have been around for the last three years if possible and they ones they can't expect less from them and move them down the pecking order. If they can't trade Ryan, then they need to think of him as their 4th starter, Go get somebody to pitch after (or before) Bradley, and before Prielipp, that way they aren't relying on a guy that has proven to be somebody to not rely on. If they can't trade Buxton (and I think they can't or won't) then be honest with him and tell him, because you can't stay healthy we need 4 legit starting Outfielders and we need to play them, so they will be days you aren't playing, not to keep you healthy but to make sure we have guys ready to go when you aren't healthy.
  23. MapleGroveTwinsFan
    Then the Twins should upgrade at 3B, move Lee to 2B or Utility, Move Erod or Keschall to 1B, and Make Clemens another utility guy, That way you have a bench of guys that should play, and some defensive flexibility. My opinion on what should be done is based on next year not a organizational approach.
  24. MapleGroveTwinsFan
    The Twins lost 4 or more games in a calendar week 7 times (one of them was 5), so even if the week they lost 5, they won all those games (against the Royals and Brewers) they would likely be 1.5 out with three to play of course they would be 4th in the wild card standings not 7th, with the White Sox playing KC today and the Rockies this weekend and Cleveland playing KC this weekend it is very unlikely one hot week got them in the playoffs, still in the hunt, but a hot week would have meant not losing any games that week.
  25. MapleGroveTwinsFan
    Probably best to do it for the other teams as well, it won't make you feel as bad, because this happens to all teams, and to the benefit of the Twins multiple times.
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