Seth Stohs Site Manager Posted November 8, 2017 Posted November 8, 2017 According to the below tweet from Mike Berardino, the Twins have been able to sell the rights to right-handed pitcher Michael Tonkin to the Hokkaido Nippon-Ham Fighters. Tonkin will get a two-year, $2.1 million deal with another $0.5 million in incentives.
Squirrel Community Moderator Posted November 8, 2017 Posted November 8, 2017 When that happens, is the player usually on board with it?
spinowner Provisional Member Posted November 8, 2017 Posted November 8, 2017 I think Tonkin will dominate over there, just like in AAA. He's the classic example of a AAAA pitcher. Major league batters can hit a straight 96 fastball. AAA batters can't. He can't get his fastball to move enough to succeed in the majors.
Thrylos Old-Timey Member Posted November 8, 2017 Posted November 8, 2017 When that happens, is the player usually on board with it? Yes. The Twins tried to do something like that with Vargas last off-season, but he did not sign. Tonkin will negotiate and sign the contact. The Twins will sell the rights for that negotiation for $500K or so usually
Squirrel Community Moderator Posted November 8, 2017 Posted November 8, 2017 Yes. The Twins tried to do something like that with Vargas last off-season, but he did not sign. Tonkin will negotiate and sign the contact. The Twins will sell the rights for that negotiation for $500K or so usuallyI never really know how that works. Thanks.
nicksaviking Community Moderator Posted November 8, 2017 Posted November 8, 2017 When that happens, is the player usually on board with it?Not the less intelligent ones:
Squirrel Community Moderator Posted November 8, 2017 Posted November 8, 2017 Not the less intelligent ones: Okay, that’s just mean!
ashbury Verified Member Posted November 8, 2017 Posted November 8, 2017 Okay, that’s just mean!They play hardball in that league.
Riverbrian Old-Timey Member Posted November 8, 2017 Posted November 8, 2017 I was hoping he would sign with my favorite team... The Orix Buffaloes. Just Kidding... I don't have a favorite Japanese Team.
Otwins Verified Member Posted November 8, 2017 Posted November 8, 2017 How many on the 40 man roster now?
Winston Smith Verified Member Posted November 8, 2017 Posted November 8, 2017 When that happens, is the player usually on board with it?Well he doubled his pay so it can't hurt that bad.
Squirrel Community Moderator Posted November 8, 2017 Posted November 8, 2017 Well he doubled his pay so it can't hurt that bad.Yeah, well ... I guess I wouldn’t move there, not even for that amount. But I didn’t know how it worked.
darin617 Verified Member Posted November 8, 2017 Posted November 8, 2017 I gotta admit I am so happy that the Twins are cutting players that do not have any future here. No reason to waste roster spots. The new regime is looking better every day. Now just add a few veterans to this nice mix of talent & the Twins will be back in the playoffs in 2018!
Winston Smith Verified Member Posted November 8, 2017 Posted November 8, 2017 Yeah, well ... I guess I wouldn’t move there, not even for that amount. But I didn’t know how it worked.You wouldn't move to Japan for a couple years for $2 mill? Really only two half years.
USAFChief Twins Daily Contributor Posted November 8, 2017 Posted November 8, 2017 How many on the 40 man roster now?its doubtful anyone here follows the Fighters closely enough to answer that, but you just never know.
Squirrel Community Moderator Posted November 8, 2017 Posted November 8, 2017 You wouldn't move to Japan for a couple years for $2 mill? Really only two half years.Nope.
USAFChief Twins Daily Contributor Posted November 8, 2017 Posted November 8, 2017 Nope.Have you been? Spent 6.5 years on the edge of a Tokyo. Fantastic place, and i wasn’t making quite that kind of money.
Blake Verified Member Posted November 8, 2017 Posted November 8, 2017 Nope.I'm guessing "TokyoTownTwinsFan" doesn't quite have the same ring to it.
Squirrel Community Moderator Posted November 8, 2017 Posted November 8, 2017 Have you been? Spent 6.5 years on the edge of a Tokyo. Fantastic place, and i wasn’t making quite that kind of money.Yes, twice. Once for pleasure, once for work.
Rosterman Verified Member Posted November 8, 2017 Posted November 8, 2017 I think the Twins retain the rights for him to be re-rostered if he is cut from the team at any time during the run of the contract...then have to decide to re-add to 40-man or jsut cut ties. After the two seasons, Tonkin is free. Of course, if the Twins never want him abck, he is also free. So, in a sense, you stash a player with a foreign team but still retain some rights.
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted November 8, 2017 Posted November 8, 2017 I think this is great for Tonkin and the Twins
snepp Verified Member Posted November 8, 2017 Posted November 8, 2017 Give me 2M for a couple partial years, I'm on the next flight out. F Rochester *or insert other team's AAA location here*.
beckmt Verified Member Posted November 8, 2017 Posted November 8, 2017 Good luch to Tonkin in Japan, expect he will do well there . Only slightly possible we will see him back.
Richie the Rally Goat Community Moderator Posted November 8, 2017 Posted November 8, 2017 Yeah, well ... I guess I wouldn’t move there, not even for that amount. But I didn’t know how it worked.id move to Japan for 2 years if i received a guaranteed 2 mil to do it. 2 mil is life changing money for me. If I were a MLB player, it depends on how realistic I thought my chances were that I could get at least a mil in MLB contract. 2 mil isn’t exactly life changing for an MLB veteran. My recollection is the players rights aren’t usually sold unless the player has already agreed.
Blackjack Provisional Member Posted November 8, 2017 Posted November 8, 2017 When that happens, is the player usually on board with it? I was wondering about that too!!! He'd almost have to be agreeable to it...
ashbury Verified Member Posted November 8, 2017 Posted November 8, 2017 I was wondering about that too!!! He'd almost have to be agreeable to it...The MLBPA can not have let such a scenario slip through the cracks during past negotiations. It's not even worth time to check that such deals must be to everyone's satisfaction.
rdehring Verified Member Posted November 8, 2017 Posted November 8, 2017 Gets the 40-man roster down to 33. Gives them room to add 6 players while retaining an open spot for the Rule 5 draft. Or will they add 7 and make another move if they want to participate in the Rule 5 draft? Several other candidates to be removed when they sign a couple free agents. Thinking of Boshers, Enns and what to do with Phil Hughes? Or will they strengthen the club via the trade route? Will they add Seth's top 4 plus 2, or 3, of the next group of 4? Will still be some difficult decisions while leaving a few good players exposed to the draft.
Platoon Verified Member Posted November 8, 2017 Posted November 8, 2017 its doubtful anyone here follows the Fighters closely enough to answer that, but you just never know. I wish they allowed double likes. I have a cracked rib, and this one hurt like hell!
Platoon Verified Member Posted November 8, 2017 Posted November 8, 2017 Yeah, well ... I guess I wouldn’t move there, not even for that amount. But I didn’t know how it worked. A woman who used to babysit our kids in her teens has been over there several times in year long stretches. She teaches at an American school there and loves the country.
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