Uh-Oh: Anthony DeSclafani Has a Date with Dr. Meister, Leaving Season in Doubt

I'm glad this happened now instead of after he got smashed 4-5 times. Go sign Clevinger and be done with it.

Simeon Woods-Richardson and Davide Festa, firehose is being turned on.  Get ready to drink!

Didn’t Comedian Rob Schneider talk about this Doc a lot back in his days as the Copy Machine Guy on SNL?

If the FO were to go after a starter I believe that Ryu might be a good option because he shown that he's recovered from surgery and is also a Southpaw . However, I believe that Varland has earned the right to be the Fifth Starter in the Rotation with how he has pitched in Spring training, but as has been stated that he would be a good additional late innings option in the Bullpen.

A trade for pitcher almost has to feel like they just became the drier for Spinal Tap when they come to the Twins.  

Desclafani hasn't been good for a while & chances of him really contributing was very slim. We have in-house pitchers who can easily fill the 5th SP spot better than Desclafani. Twins need to spend their money wisely picking up another Desclafani via FA isn't wise. 

33 minutes ago, howeda7 said:

I'm glad this happened now instead of after he got smashed 4-5 times. 

As a person, I feel bad for him and hope that everything goes well.

As a fan watching the SP, this statement about sums everything up.

There is a zero chance the Twins make a move that increases payroll.  Everyone better hope (there is that word again... hope) that multiple guys in AAA are ready and show some MLB success or this season is going to go downhill unbelievably quickly. 

19 minutes ago, old nurse said:

A trade for pitcher almost has to feel like they just became the drummer for Spinal Tap when they come to the Twins.  

This!
Could the organization have a ‘better’ track record of acquiring arms that are on the cusp of blowing up…even if they were trying!??

DeSclafani going down is unfortunate, but it's hard to consider it a surprise. Trading for a pitcher with known arm issues has not been a strategy that has worked well for the Twins.

Michael Lorenzen is still available. He would be the best depth option available on the open market. I don't see Snell or Montgomery as 2024 Twins.

Otherwise, SWR, Headrick and Festa are the best in house options as I see it. I would like to see SWR and Festa this season.

13 minutes ago, Matthew Trueblood said:

Alas: Ryu signed a long-term deal to return to the KBO, last month. 

I forgot about that....did not see it even mentioned in the 3 places that looked at unsigned free agents.  Oh well

19 minutes ago, Mike Sixel said:

Except he was a throw in and insurance, imo ... To even out the money in the trade. Did people really think this guy would come in and be healthy and good? I didn't. 

MN Twins: Preferred destination for elbow surgery.

You know where to go.

Ownership needs to make an investment in Monty. He is the expensive high end workhorse we need. 

Imagine.  The Twins traded for an injured starting pitcher.  He may likely need Tommy John.   It's Deja vu all over again.

Louie can absolutely take the 5th starter gig, but Falvey should be on the phone to Lorenzen's agent this afternoon. They won't get Snell or Montgomery, but Lorenzen is an affordable option and he can start or relieve. 

9 minutes ago, CRF said:

Louie can absolutely take the 5th starter gig, but Falvey should be on the phone to Lorenzen's agent this afternoon. They won't get Snell or Montgomery, but Lorenzen is an affordable option and he can start or relieve. 

It almost seems like they were planning for the worst by signing all the RP’s knowing that Varland would likely pitch in 30+ starts.. If he has just a solid season of results, we will be fine but if anyone of the 5 has an issue, its gonna be a problem.

Can we just please stop acquiring "major league" pitching?????? What ever guidelines the Twins are using in choosing who to acquire . . . STOP IT! We have to stop decimating our roster for arms that just won't give us value, Pablo Lopez the one exception. Are we surprised here? I'm not.

44 minutes ago, Mike Sixel said:

Except he was a throw in and insurance, imo ... To even out the money in the trade. Did people really think this guy would come in and be healthy and good? I didn't. 

Idk why so many are downplaying DeSclafani's role now that he's (predictably) injured. The Twins handed him a rotation spot and allocated nearly 1/3 of what little money they had to spend this offseason towards his salary. Clearly they didn't view him as some toss in. 

1 hour ago, Mike Sixel said:

Except he was a throw in and insurance, imo ... To even out the money in the trade. Did people really think this guy would come in and be healthy and good? I didn't. 

Agree. I don’t think the Mariners make the trade unless the Twins take DeSclafani. It certainly would have been a better trade without him.

Falvey did not set the player budget but he was responsible for allocating it. Polanco had to be traded once they chose to tender Farmer. Is the 2024 team better with Polanco, Varland and Alcala or Farmer, DeSclafani and Topa? I think the money is virtually the same. No move should have been made this winter that didn’t improve the 2024 team.
 

Quote

It might be time to ask the Pohlads once more about opening the wallet a bit wider.

Agreed.

3 hours ago, Fire Dan Gladden said:

As a person, I feel bad for him and hope that everything goes well.

As a fan watching the SP, this statement about sums everything up.

There is a zero chance the Twins make a move that increases payroll.  Everyone better hope (there is that word again... hope) that multiple guys in AAA are ready and show some MLB success or this season is going to go downhill unbelievably quickly. 

Can we file grievance against Seattle (or SF) and make them pay his salary if insurance doesn't cover it?

2 hours ago, Whitey333 said:

Imagine.  The Twins traded for an injured starting pitcher.  He may likely need Tommy John.   It's Deja vu all over again.

They got the value of what they did due to the medicals on Desclafani.  He was a thrown in and a negative asset at 4 million a year.  We don't get the prospects we do without taking him on.  The Twins were willing to eat some salary on him, get the prospects and see if he could remain healthy.  He couldn't.  On the upside, Varland looks good, really good so far.  You also have a potential pitcher in Festa.   

15 minutes ago, Bigfork Twins Guy said:

I doubt Montgomery or Snell could be obtained.  Their agent knows that the Twins are desperate so the cost just went up.

Can they get the old LH'er with the beard that they had last year and stash him in STP like they did last year?  That would allow Varland to be the #5 with some vet insurance available.

I'm not Dallas Kuchel's biggest fan but "old LH with a beard" is a bit of a slight.

2 hours ago, twins_89 said:

DeSclafani going down is unfortunate, but it's hard to consider it a surprise. Trading for a pitcher with known arm issues has not been a strategy that has worked well for the Twins.

Actually it has when you are trading minimal assets for that player.  The rogers for Paddack and emilio pagan trade worked for the Twins.  The trade with Seattle works for the twins, even removing Disco.  The Mahle trade was a bad trade even before the injury.  When you are treating the players as negative assets you will win, just by counting cards.  Effectively we paid 4 million on Disco for better prospects in exchange for Polanco.  Yes if healthy he could have been a 2 to 3 quality pitcher.  However there were ample signs along the way his rehab was not going well.