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This is a no brainer for me IF Tom Pohlad really intends to increase payroll. You get the player on a low risk (albeit high dollar) one year deal and you can look to trade him at next year’s deadline. He’s a veteran leader in the clubhouse and for a young pitching staff. If he declines you get the draft pick(s) and pivot to another free agent option. The only way I don’t give him a QO is if he comes back from the hamate injury and can’t swing a bat.
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Hrbeks Divot replied to Sam Caulder's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
The front office has two months to negotiate a long term deal with him. If they can’t get it done they should evaluate the deals and take the one that aligns with their build plan the best. I’d hate to see him go but with the labor uncertainty I don’t think they can wait until the offseason to move him. -
“Trade deadlines are always judged too quickly.” The article ends with this quote which is exactly right. It’s still too early to judge all the deals in their entirety. Would we have a couple more wins with Varland and Duran on the roster? Sure. Would they make this team a contender in 2026? Absolutely not. So the question of whether the trades help in 2026 is just a matter of whether you want the Twins to be average to bad or possibly just average. I’d rather play the long game and see how these trades look in 2-3 years.
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Excellent article, Matt. Statistical recap with some fun mixed into the piece!
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“By holding back on extensions for players like Lewis, Miranda, and Lee at their respective peaks, the Twins may have preserved both payroll flexibility and roster optionality.” The problem here is that the Twins have capitalized on neither. They haven’t spent the payroll they saved and they’ve locked themselves into an inflexible roster this year. I’d be fine with them taking a chance or two on pre-arb deals but if they won’t, they sure don’t seem to be jumping on the benefits being touted on the article.- 16 replies
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I don’t mind the idea but if we go that route then I also think we need to go full tear down. Are we realistically going to be able to sign Joe Ryan to a long term extension? Get more young talent for him and Jeffers now that lines up with the 28-30 timeframe. Let Buck decide if he wants to ride it out or look for trading partners for him as well.
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I’ll be the Charlie Brown and hope the football doesn’t get pulled this time. Tom has a year to prove to me there are changes coming. Might we win the division? Yes, but only because nobody wants to jump up and grab it. If Skubal is traded it’s even more of a toss up. I’m fine with not trading any more veterans but I’d like to see a long term extension offer for Ryan and a three year de lobfor Jeffers. After that we roll with what we have, hope the kids arrive and augment with free agents in 27 to really open the window.
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While I agree that Ohl should get an opportunity for one of the final bullpen spots, if he’s getting save opportunities next year we’re in for another long season. His four seam and cutter aren’t nearly good enough, at this time, for that role. Let’s hope he’s taken a step in the offseason to be a middle innings guy for us.
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I think $130 gets them closer to 87-89 wins and a wild card but the long term outlook is still the same unless they commit to even slightly increasing payroll in the future. I hate to see a complete tear down but where they are is worse. I’ve been saying for a while that if they trade one of Ryan or Lopez they need to trade them both. Then follow that with Buxton and Jeffers. Hope the FO and scouts have a long term plan in place with a contention window opening in 28 and lasting a few years.
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One trend I see in the article is that our coaches seem to go to larger markets. That typically equals larger payrolls and better talent. I know I’m generalizing but it’s easier to coach better players, right? Sure those teams have disappointing outcomes too but overall it’s easier to buy the next great player. If the Twins have a $200 million payroll it stands to reason they’re more successful and this, the coaches look like they are doing a better job. Maybe some of these guys actually were successful here and got the most they could out of the talent level they had to work with.
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In my mind there is no question the Twins are rebuilding if even two of these three are traded. If they cut payroll again or even stay flat with the end of the season then their window of contention might begin to open again in 2027. They might as well rip the band aid off and move Ober as well if they can get anything close to a fair return. Start to bring up the kids and hope you’ve got someone to develop them into the next core. It would be difficult to watch but I’d rather they go that route instead of claiming they are retooling with low end veteran hitters and scrap heap relievers.
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Great article, Alex. Many fans, understandably, are very emotional right now. It’s starts at the top with ownership. If they are willing to spend the money for talent, it’s incumbent upon the FO to use those funds to hit on impact players. At that point the onus IS on the manager to take full advantage of the tools he has to use. Right now it’s about leadership communication and team building.. if he can impart some wisdom and awareness on the younger group coming up that will be a win. Until things change with Ownership and the FO, that should be what we hope for and expect.

