BREAKING: Twins to Acquire Right-Handed Reliever Jeff Hoffman from Blue Jays

[Mike Sixel]

1 minute ago, DJL44 said:

Morris in the bullpen, too.

So, like 2 or 3 rookies on the whole team? And 3 catchers, 2 DH, and Gray......and people love Zoll?

[USAFChief]

9 minutes ago, S Bart said:

Well...none were advertised...possibly were not acceptable.. so all rumors or thoughts...not like Larnach which was in the media

I have serious doubts there was ever a Larnach trade in the works.

 

[Fatbat]

High price in assets to pay for Hoffman but he gets big outs. Getting him next season will be huge as the young kids will be promoted to Varsity and the playoff window opens for real. 
 

Anyone that is upset that the Pohlads are spending money should just HUSH UP! This is just a start to spending money n a playoff team. We should expect even more this offseason!!!

[FlyingFinn]

9 minutes ago, tony&rodney said:

I'm guessing Kendry Rojas goes down to work as a starting pitcher with the addition of Hoffman. It also seems like the Twins are planning on using Kaelen Culpepper and Walker Jenkins soon, at least Jenkins. 

Culpepper for Gray and Jenkins for........... Roden I guess, barring injury, at some point.

[S Bart]

2 minutes ago, USAFChief said:

I have serious doubts there was ever a Larnach trade in the works.

 

Well...I believe the Astros owner was quoted about it..

[Vanimal46]

 

[S Bart]

1 minute ago, FlyingFinn said:

Culpepper for Gray and Jenkins for........... Roden I guess, barring injury, at some point.

Agree...but explain any downside of bringing them up this year...some have made comments about it.. rookie status...upcoming lockout

[Mike Sixel]

Just now, S Bart said:

Agree...but explain any downside of bringing them up this year...some have made comments about it.. rookie status...upcoming lockout

If they are up before about mid-August, the likely lose rookie status next year, and would lose that extra year of control. 

If they are on the 40 man this year, and there is a lockout, they cannot play/practice next year in the minors. 

[tony&rodney]

Unless I missed something, the Twins still have three catchers. Alex Jackson has done decent work in limited action. The guy looks like he still has talent. It would be surprising if he is still on the roster tomorrow and there is no doubt in my mind that this time another club will grab him. 

Was anyone else surprised that no team offered cash considerations for Matt Wallner? The guy deserves another shot to play but he looks like he will finish the year in AAA.

[USAFChief]

5 minutes ago, S Bart said:

Well...I believe the Astros owner was quoted about it..

I believe You'd be wrong.

Edited 1 hour ago by USAFChief

[S Bart]

Just now, USAFChief said:

You'd be wrong.

Nope...saw the video clip

[FlyingFinn]

Just now, S Bart said:

but explain any downside of bringing them up this year...some have made comments about it.. rookie status...upcoming lockout

Biggest downside - they aren't ready. With Culpepper, it's coming back from injury after a lengthy layoff. Jenkins it's just some more reps and maybe adding some homers.

Other minor downsides - No rookie of the year next year and no extra 1st round draft pick (more looking to 2027 rather than win this year). And, as you said, they can't play in AAA if there is a lockout in 2027.

[S Bart]

2 minutes ago, tony&rodney said:

Unless I missed something, the Twins still have three catchers. Alex Jackson has done decent work in limited action. The guy looks like he still has talent. It would be surprising if he is still on the roster tomorrow and there is no doubt in my mind that this time another club will grab him. 

Was anyone else surprised that no team offered cash considerations for Matt Wallner? The guy deserves another shot to play but he looks like he will finish the year in AAA.

No

[TL]

These trades feel like the right approach to give the team a fighting chance this year without sacrificing the future. With Buxton out it would have been tough to lose even one of Larnach and Jeffers given their importance to this lineup. I’m glad they’re rolling with these guys (though I do hope Jenkins comes up for Jackson and Larnach moves mostly to DH).

And reality is that we still do not have to lose those two or Ryan for no value. I would bet Pohlad has given approval on a QO for Jeffers and if Larnach keeps performing he should have a trade market in the offseason. 

[TNtwins85]

1 hour ago, MMBoys93 said:

Zoll is not it lol

Waited all day and this is the trade? A reliever who has sucked for 2 years and is still owed 15 million…and traded a borderline top 100 guy for him.

 

I’m confused. Which one of these guys was borderline top 100? Their former #7 or their former #17? Also, who sucks. The controllable relief pitcher who slots in as a top RHRP in this bullpen? Seems to me like they got what they said they were gonna get. 

[nicksaviking]

4 minutes ago, FlyingFinn said:

Biggest downside - they aren't ready. With Culpepper, it's coming back from injury after a lengthy layoff. Jenkins it's just some more reps and maybe adding some homers.

Other minor downsides - No rookie of the year next year and no extra 1st round draft pick (more looking to 2027 rather than win this year). And, as you said, they can't play in AAA if there is a lockout in 2027.

Then you’d never call up a rookie.

I think they need to prioritize having them as prepared as possible for 2027, that would mean getting accustomed to the MLB now.

[Maybe Next Year]

Just another trade for an average to mediocre pitcher and giving up way too much in prospects. As long as the current Twins management team, including Shelton, is in control put your head between your legs and kiss any future World Series goodbye. Let’s trade top 100 prospects for broken down washed up veterans when we could just as well bring up youngsters who will do no worse and yet get some big league experience. No way in hell we are going to the World Series this year but what the hell - let’s trade great prospects for has beens simply to perhaps make the playoffs! I can’t wait for those of you that disagree to share your opinions. 

 

[Coach]

Ya think, maybe Jeffers, on the down low, is going to accept a multi-year deal soon?

[S Bart]

39 minutes ago, S Bart said:

One thing to think about is if there was actual any offers on Jeffers...Larnach one fell apart...

Per the recent article. .seems like they did not want to move him. I just really question it as the price to keep him may be too high in the off season. Teams will offer him more than the Twins.  ..also.  3 catchers or 1 catcher. 2 catchers /first. Basemen.... per another post ??

[palmspringstwinsfan]

All this to remedy the Varland mistake. But Hoffman is very good and wouldn’t be here unless the Jays have Louie. Shows how dysfunctional Falvey and Joe Pohlad were. 

[TNtwins85]

1 minute ago, TL said:

These trades feel like the right approach to give the team a fighting chance this year without sacrificing the future. With Buxton out it would have been tough to lose even one of Larnach and Jeffers given their importance to this lineup. I’m glad they’re rolling with these guys (though I do hope Jenkins comes up for Jackson and Larnach moves mostly to DH).

And reality is that we still do not have to lose those two or Ryan for no value. I would bet Pohlad has given approval on a QO for Jeffers and if Larnach keeps performing he should have a trade market in the offseason. 

Also, the report is Jeffers is gonna turn down the QO so it’s a win win. It would be nice to keep him one more year but oh well. It’s his chance to cash in. They got what they needed without sacrificing the farm and they did what Zoll said he would do. That’s about all you can ask for.

[LastOnePicked]

Reliever trades made at the deadline give me a mild fan form of PTSD. Here's hoping it goes well.

They didn't go big. Let's just hope they don't go home. At least the future wasn't mortgaged.

[S Bart]

10 minutes ago, Mike Sixel said:

If they are up before about mid-August, the likely lose rookie status next year, and would lose that extra year of control. 

If they are on the 40 man this year, and there is a lockout, they cannot play/practice next year in the minors. 

Good points but...Do you agree with flying Finn comment on this topic...bit different

[Peter Gravett]

1 hour ago, DataNerd said:

1 more year, they are paying for some portion of it.

And next year is shaping up to be a short season...

[Cris E]

30 minutes ago, Hawkeye Bean Counter said:

The future wave will also most likely be credited to Falvey. Say what you will Falvey could find starting pitching. Variety of methods. He didn’t hit on hitters from 17 through 21 and that was his downfall. 

Kirillof was looking good in 2023 until his wrist completely failed him. That was too bad because we really could have used a decent 1B the past couple years.  I'd certainly have traded Ty France's Gold Glove and 89 OPS+ for a better hitter who was an average glove over there. 

[FlyingFinn]

5 minutes ago, nicksaviking said:

Then you’d never call up a rookie.

I'm not saying I wouldn't call them up but the poster asked for possible downsides. My only question is call them up now or in a couple weeks. 

[DJL44]

19 minutes ago, Vanimal46 said:

 

Hoffman is an asset at $7.25M. This is basically selling Hill for $3.75M. I am changing my mind from liking the trade to really liking the trade.

[Vanimal46]

Just now, DJL44 said:

Hoffman is an asset at $7.25M. This is basically selling Hill for $3.75M. I am changing my mind from liking the trade to really liking the trade.

I preferred giving up Hill over Quick out of our current top 2 pitching prospects 

[TNtwins85]

13 minutes ago, S Bart said:

Per the recent article. .seems like they did not want to move him. I just really question it as the price to keep him may be too high in the off season. Teams will offer him more than the Twins.  ..also.  3 catchers or 1 catcher. 2 catchers /first. Basemen.... per another post ??

There were two reports in the midst of the action today that the Astros and Padres were in on Larnach. Must have wanted a kings ransom as both teams pivoted with plenty of time before the deadline. Obviously they didn’t want to mess with this offense unless they had something substantial coming back which is why I think they were in on Neto. The Angels I’m sure wanted their own kings ransom. 

[TNtwins85]

5 minutes ago, Vanimal46 said:

I preferred giving up Hill over Quick out of our current top 2 pitching prospects 

Absolutely! Quick can be in the bigs by next summer. Hill… probably not.