Matthew Trueblood Twins Daily Editor Posted April 12, 2025 Posted April 12, 2025 The Twins barely showed up in another dispiriting loss. Image courtesy of © Jordan Johnson-Imagn Images Box Score Starting Pitcher: Chris Paddack: 5 IP, 2 H, 2 R (1 ER), 2 BB, 5 SO, 93 Pitches Home Runs: None Bottom 3 WPA: Kody Funderburk -0.111, Harrison Bader -0.108, Trevor Larnach -0.091 Win Probability Chart (via FanGraphs) On their third try, the Twins got the start they hoped they would see most of the time from Chris Paddack in 2025. The sturdy veteran righthander induced 12 whiffs in a 93-pitch, five-inning outing, after getting just 14 total whiffs in his first two starts, combined. His fastball sat comfortably in the 93-94 mph range, and as the game progressed, he worked in his changeup (a lot) and his two breaking balls (a little), acceding to the wishes his manager espoused for him in a pregame media session. "I do think his other stuff is there, yes, to get a swing and a miss on occasion, but also to keep the other teams off of the fastball," Rocco Baldelli said Saturday. "And I think that that’s a very important key for him. So his usage will always be important, because it’s one thing to have a very good fastball, which Paddy’s fastball has always played well, but it’s another thing if the other teams are gonna lean on that pitch and just sell out to that pitch at times. So the ability to mix his other pitches in there effectively and successfully will be key for him, and how his fastball plays." His approach worked well against the Tigers. Though the lefty-loaded lineup with which Tigers manager A.J. Hinch countered Paddack did work deep counts and force Paddack out of the game a bit sooner than the team might have preferred, Paddack held Detroit without an extra-base hit—and he might have held them scoreless, with better defensive support. In the first inning, Paddack got himself into trouble by issuing a leadoff walk, but Carlos Correa compounded that peril by failing to retire Kerry Carpenter, on what was ruled an infield single. He threw the ball past first baseman Ty France, allowing Zach McKinstry to reach third base, and Spencer Torkelson cashed in the chance by hitting a long sacrifice fly to right field. Paddack stopped the bleeding there, but the Twins were working from behind against Tigers starter Jackson Jobe before they even went to the bat rack. In the fourth, Paddack again helped create his own jam. A leadoff single by Torkelson became more of a problem when Paddack walked Riley Greene. However, the Twins' peculiar unwillingness to position their infield to seize chances for a double play then came into play. When a lefty has been at bat with a runner on first and zero or one out this season, only the Padres have used a shaded infield alignment more often than the Twins' 82.9% of the time. They don't have their middle infielders play closer to second base, or even come in by a step or two to get to ground balls faster and facilitate a double play turn. In this case, that meant that France, Edouard Julien and Correa each had their heels just in front of the grass on the outer rim of the infield, with all three pulled around toward the pull side of Detroit second baseman Colt Keith. When Keith hit a medium-speed, high-bounce chopper toward Julien, he came in to collect it—but had no chance to make a twin killing. He merely took the out at first, while both runners advanced into scoring position. Next up was designated hitter Justyn-Henry Malloy, who lifted a high, lazy fly ball to right field. Matt Wallner drew a bead and came in several steps to catch the ball, but he was slow on the release, and his throw was well offline, to the first-base side of home plate. It was cut off, and the Tigers scored their second run. The ball landed in Wallner's glove 266 feet from home plate, according to Statcast. Since the start of 2023, there have been 32 batted balls to right field, with a distance between 260 and 272 feet and a launch angle north of 45° (Malloy's was 51°), with a runner on third and less than two outs. Twenty-five of those have become sacrifice flies, though one of those still resulted in a double play when a runner heading to third was thrown out. Four have seen the right fielder throw the runner out at the plate. Three times, the runner at third didn't test the arm of the fielder. In short, there was something like a 22% chance for the Twins not to yield a run on that ball, and if we adjust for both Wallner's arm strength (it's been one of the two or three strongest outfield arms in baseball each of the last two seasons) and Torkelson's below-average speed, it's fair to push that number closer to 40%. In the end, though, it didn't even look like a play with close-call potential. Maybe it didn't matter, and maybe that play was the right microcosm for this contest—and the Twins' season, to date. After chasing Paddack, Detroit put up two quick, defense-independent runs in the sixth, with Torkelson launching a two-run homer off newly recalled southpaw Kody Funderburk. Baldelli had hoped Funderburk would come in and go right after hitters, and claimed not to be worried much about whether he faced lefties or righties. He brought him in to face a lefty-righty-lefty pocket of the Tigers lineup, though, and the righty in the middle doubled Detroit's advantage with a single swing. Meanwhile, the Twins could do nothing with the rookie Jobe, who pitched six innings of two-hit, shutout ball. As has often been the case this year, the offense put the ball in play, striking out just twice against Jobe and his high-90s heater, but they also made the underwhelming kind of contact that has become their hallmark. Jobe only allowed six hard-hit balls, two of which were hit straight into the ground for easy outs. Jhoan Duran came on to work the top of the eighth, with all the usual attendant fanfare from the Target Field gameday operations team. He pitched well, and has looked good most of the time this year, but the special tingle of that big entry has never been less in evidence. The game situation made it fall flat. Nonetheless, with his performance, he put a bit of life back into a hopeful weekend crowd, and when Jose Miranda led off the bottom of the frame with a pinch-hit single, the buzz picked up. Harrison Bader put together a pesky at-bat against Tigers reliever Tyler Holton, but when it ended with a lineout to right field, the writing was on the wall. Endlessly fascinated by the nuances of their capacity to torture and disappoint, however, the Twins reached deep into their bag to find a novel one. On a ground ball to Torkelson at first base off the bat of Christian Vázquez, second baseman Keith took his foot off the base too soon, leaving Miranda safe at second. It was a boneheaded play by Keith, on a ball that yielded no real chance to turn a double play—but Miranda one-upped him. After sliding into the base, and without noticing the safe call from the second-base umpire, Miranda turned and began trotting off the field. Keith, aghast and relieved at the same time, tagged him out. Wallner then struck out to kill the feeble rally, in relatively conventional fashion. Notes Ryan Jeffers was originally scheduled to start Saturday, but after being hit in the thumb Friday night, he came in with swelling in the area Saturday morning and Vázquez got the start, instead. Baldelli indicated that Jeffers could play if the team needed him, but they preferred to give him the day to let that swelling subside. The injury is not expected to keep him out for a prolonged period. Castro's insertion into the No. 2 spot against right-handed pitchers appears to be semi-permanent. With Correa, Byron Buxton and Trevor Larnach all struggling, making Castro a bridge piece in the top half of the batting order makes sense. What's Next The Twins will send Simeon Woods-Richardson to the mound to try to salvage one in the three-game intradivisional set. Righthander Casey Mize will take the ball for the Tigers, in a 1:10 PM CT start at Target Field. Bullpen Usage Report TUE WED THU FRI SAT TOT Sands 15 0 24 0 0 39 Alcalá 16 0 0 23 10 49 Topa 0 0 0 37 0 37 Funderburk 0 0 0 0 43 43 Coulombe 13 0 4 6 0 23 Jax 12 10 0 0 0 22 Varland 0 0 18 0 0 18 Durán 0 15 0 0 12 27 View full article
CRF Verified Member Posted April 12, 2025 Posted April 12, 2025 This team is dead. IndyTwinsFan, Old Crow, darwin22 and 8 others 11
Aggies7 Old-Timey Member Posted April 12, 2025 Posted April 12, 2025 The Miranda play….the booth fell all over themselves to excuse the hilarious gaffe of running off the field when he was called safe. His slide never even reached the bag!!! I don’t think I’ve ever seen that. oh wait, I have. Blyleven2011, knothole61, Bodie and 11 others 2 12
thelanges5 Verified Member Posted April 12, 2025 Posted April 12, 2025 The look on Keith’s face as Miranda started to walk off the field. Priceless and reflects my feelings all too well. What are we doing ? IndyTwinsFan, Vanimal46, Doctor Wu and 4 others 6 1
Aggies7 Old-Timey Member Posted April 12, 2025 Posted April 12, 2025 1 minute ago, thelanges5 said: The look on Keith’s face as Miranda started to walk off the field. Priceless and reflects my feelings all too well. What are we doing ? We say it in jest (sort of) all the time, but we have so many players who rarely get on base, I genuinely think they aren’t prepared to actually run the bases. I asked it on the GDT, but what did the team do during spring training? Or was the “new way” just not working on the fundamentals of the game at all???! Old Crow, Aerodeliria, David HK and 1 other 3 1
thelanges5 Verified Member Posted April 12, 2025 Posted April 12, 2025 The FO assembled a roster that doesn’t understand how to play baseball. This includes the guys they’ve signed and the guys they’ve developed. I cannot wrap my head around this. Vanimal46, glunn, Dozier's Glorious Hair and 8 others 11
tlkriens Verified Member Posted April 12, 2025 Posted April 12, 2025 The Minnesota Twins 4-11 start is tied for the worst 15 game start to begin a season in team history. You have to go back to the 1904 Washington Senators (1-14) to find a worse 15 game start in franchise history. Rhyno006, joefish, mikelink45 and 6 others 3 6
Rhyno006 Verified Member Posted April 12, 2025 Posted April 12, 2025 I was genuinely excited when, for $100 a season, I could stream my Twins from where ever I'm at... but through business and procrastination I hadn't signed up yet... And if I'm being honest, I'm damn glad I haven't, and likely won't. This team is AWFUL. From ownership to front office to players. Just. AWFUL. They deserve none of my money and even less of my time. Dozier's Glorious Hair, glunn, Peter and 10 others 11 1 1
shimrod Verified Member Posted April 12, 2025 Posted April 12, 2025 Twins are beginning to look like one of those movies so bad they're funny. Maybe, to attract viewers, management can hire the MST3K gang to do the broadcast. No more monotone Morneau, no more smarmy, patronizing Provus. Just lean into the comedic possibilities of the 2025 Minnesota Twins. Strombomb, Dozier's Glorious Hair, glunn and 5 others 4 3 1
shimrod Verified Member Posted April 12, 2025 Posted April 12, 2025 Also, to add to the confusion at second base - why was Miranda signaled safe when he had never reached the base? Miranda wasn't the only individual making assumptions on that play. glunn, Dozier's Glorious Hair, Old Crow and 3 others 6
tony&rodney Old-Timey Member Posted April 12, 2025 Posted April 12, 2025 The offense is not keeping it together. Wallner had a very slow transfer and release a couple of years ago and had made some gains, but he is a guy teams run on because he negates the arm with the extra movement/slowness. glunn and USAFChief 2
Aggies7 Old-Timey Member Posted April 12, 2025 Posted April 12, 2025 5 minutes ago, shimrod said: Twins are beginning to look like one of those movies so bad they're funny. Maybe, to attract viewers, management can hire the MST3K gang to do the broadcast. No more monotone Morneau, no more smarmy, patronizing Provus. Just lean into the comedic possibilities of the 2025 Minnesota Twins. They’d actually do better with Svengoolie offering commentary, since this is more of a bad horror movie. Rhyno006 and Strombomb 1 1
Hubie29 Verified Member Posted April 12, 2025 Posted April 12, 2025 11 minutes ago, Rhyno006 said: I was genuinely excited when, for $100 a season, I could stream my Twins from where ever I'm at... but through business and procrastination I hadn't signed up yet... And if I'm being honest, I'm damn glad I haven't, and likely won't. This team is AWFUL. From ownership to front office to players. Just. AWFUL. They deserve none of my money and even less of my time. Roster full of guys that shouldn't be in the major leagues, period. Wallner, Miranda, Julien, Larnach, Gasper, even Buxton is marginal. I won't even go into the pitching. Half the bullpen probably? They can't win with this team. If you think they can, you are part of the problem. darwin22, Rhyno006, thelanges5 and 1 other 4
thelanges5 Verified Member Posted April 12, 2025 Posted April 12, 2025 This roster is going to get somebody fired and it will probably be Rocco. However, this roster was built by the front office. Not Rocco’s fault that he can’t field a team of 26 major leaguers. lukeduke1980, mikelink45 and hitterscount 2 1
Beast Verified Member Posted April 12, 2025 Posted April 12, 2025 People need to start getting fired. The team isn’t absent talent. There is something rotten in terms of culture/philosophy. Another masterclass on how not to run a business by the Pohlad clan. Sticking with a collection of folks who have done nothing but underachieve for far too long. Indecisive/unrealistic in terms of the sale of the team. Can’t watch the team on TV without some obscure, relatively expensive subscription service. Destroying fan morale last year before trying to sell the team (selling low but asking the high price). Stories about them up to their eye balls in debt, despite not having to pay for a state of the art stadium. It’s really a rare display of incompetence. One fleeting moment of quasi-success in a decade and they absolutely nose dive it into the ground with a mushroom cloud of crap. Honestly, the last 15 years is what the public financed a stadium for? 1 playoff participation ribbon (play-in series win, basically) to show? I don’t know how anyone can justify parting with a single red cent for this product is beyond me. It’s a disgrace. glunn, IndyTwinsFan, Aggies7 and 3 others 5 1
jkcarew Verified Member Posted April 12, 2025 Posted April 12, 2025 Tear it down to the studs. Or at least, to where the studs would be if you had any. glunn, $tryf4Life, Vanimal46 and 5 others 8
LastOnePicked Verified Member Posted April 12, 2025 Posted April 12, 2025 48 minutes ago, thelanges5 said: The FO assembled a roster that doesn’t understand how to play baseball. This includes the guys they’ve signed and the guys they’ve developed. I cannot wrap my head around this. You give this exact same roster to another manager, and they would not be 4-11. It's not just the minute decisions that lead to losses. It's the tone being set, the lack of confidence, the lack of a feel for the game. Stats can't define it, but play on the field reveals it over time. This is a Baldelli team. If they're not hitting home runs, they are totally lost. I cannot believe they kept him after last year. I can't believe he's still here to crater the team's chances again. TwinsChupacabra, knothole61, Parfigliano and 8 others 11
LastOnePicked Verified Member Posted April 12, 2025 Posted April 12, 2025 53 minutes ago, thelanges5 said: The FO assembled a roster that doesn’t understand how to play baseball. This includes the guys they’ve signed and the guys they’ve developed. I cannot wrap my head around this. Correa was on his way to being a first ballot Hall of Famer before being coached by Baldelli. It's not a great roster, but it's not a 4-11 roster. This is about the manager. It's long past time to shake up a complacent squad. glunn, $tryf4Life, DJL44 and 9 others 12
Patzky Old-Timey Member Posted April 12, 2025 Posted April 12, 2025 44 minutes ago, Hubie29 said: Roster full of guys that shouldn't be in the major leagues, period. Wallner, Miranda, Julien, Larnach, Gasper, even Buxton is marginal. I won't even go into the pitching. Half the bullpen probably? They can't win with this team. If you think they can, you are part of the problem. I see the Saints pulled Keaschall early in a close game and sat Lee. Wondering... FlyingFinn, Old Crow, glunn and 1 other 4
Parfigliano Verified Member Posted April 12, 2025 Posted April 12, 2025 They stink. They give off an "I don't care" vibe. It's embarrassing. Blyleven2011, glunn, Vanimal46 and 8 others 10 1
glunn Community Moderator Posted April 12, 2025 Posted April 12, 2025 Is it too late to ask for a refund on my $100? LaBombo, IndyTwinsFan, FlyingFinn and 1 other 4
LaBombo Verified Member Posted April 12, 2025 Posted April 12, 2025 1 hour ago, thelanges5 said: The FO assembled a roster that doesn’t understand how to play baseball. This includes the guys they’ve signed and the guys they’ve developed. I cannot wrap my head around this. A team's ability to execute fundamentals at a high level can blind a front office to their roster's deficiencies in raw talent. The reverse of high ability masking poor fundamentals is also somewhat true. Fortunately for the Twins organization, their inability to execute and their failure to field sufficient talent are making both issues impossible for the front office to miss. USAFChief 1
Parfigliano Verified Member Posted April 12, 2025 Posted April 12, 2025 20 minutes ago, glunn said: Is it too late to ask for a refund on my $100? To ask no. To receive yes. LambchoP, glunn, ashbury and 2 others 1 4
thelanges5 Verified Member Posted April 12, 2025 Posted April 12, 2025 White Sox just beat the Red Sox, Braves looking like they’re gonna beat the Rays. Twins are the only team with 11 losses, although we may be joined by the Rockies in one of the later games. Maybe like a Phoenix, we can rise from the ashes 🤣
Hubie29 Verified Member Posted April 12, 2025 Posted April 12, 2025 43 minutes ago, Patzky said: I see the Saints pulled Keaschall early in a close game and sat Lee. Wondering... Problem is they are no better than what we already have. But wouldn't hurt to try something new Patzky 1
Hubie29 Verified Member Posted April 12, 2025 Posted April 12, 2025 1 hour ago, LastOnePicked said: Correa was on his way to being a first ballot Hall of Famer before being coached by Baldelli. It's not a great roster, but it's not a 4-11 roster. This is about the manager. It's long past time to shake up a complacent squad. It IS about the roster being managed by a high school quality manager. It's a losing equation. LastOnePicked, T.O. and darwin22 3
thelanges5 Verified Member Posted April 12, 2025 Posted April 12, 2025 From Gleeman: Source: Twins are demoting Jose Miranda to Triple-A following his base-running blunder Saturday and .167 batting average in 12 games. Brooks Lee is expected to be activated from the injured list to take Miranda's place on the Twins' active roster. DannySD, Blyleven2011, DJL44 and 8 others 11
Hubie29 Verified Member Posted April 12, 2025 Posted April 12, 2025 1 hour ago, thelanges5 said: This roster is going to get somebody fired and it will probably be Rocco. However, this roster was built by the front office. Not Rocco’s fault that he can’t field a team of 26 major leaguers. A competent manager could do better, but not near enough to make a huge difference with this roster of minor leaguers. Hopefully with a new manager they can at least make things a little more exciting. Like maybe .400 ball?
h2oface Old-Timey Member Posted April 12, 2025 Posted April 12, 2025 If we didn’t have such prepared for the season high dollar team leaders like Correa and Buxton, we probably would have had to go with below replacement level options. Then where would we be? May we be grateful we are so blessed. IndyTwinsFan 1
Aggies7 Old-Timey Member Posted April 12, 2025 Posted April 12, 2025 2 minutes ago, thelanges5 said: From Gleeman: Source: Twins are demoting Jose Miranda to Triple-A following his base-running blunder Saturday and .167 batting average in 12 games. Brooks Lee is expected to be activated from the injured list to take Miranda's place on the Twins' active roster. Finally, a little accountability Dozier's Glorious Hair, LaBombo, Patzky and 1 other 4
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